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Your Lifetank is now disabled because the Authorization Server failed to respond, can someone please explain to me why I get this error all the time with new version of LT, it really starting to annoy me. Most of the time it works after 5 or 6 trys.
Also can anyone explain to me what info is being sent to the server?
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What happens if you type "/lt auth server 2"?
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It works for all of them, but I have to type it several times, before it works. The one for ELtank works on the first try. Could be something with my firewall? I have not had to make any changes with Eltank. Running CentOS and all my computers are routed via that box.
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Monolith_WE posted:
It works for all of them, but I have to type it several times, before it works. The one for ELtank works on the first try. Could be something with my firewall? I have not had to make any changes with Eltank. Running CentOS and all my computers are routed via that box.
That was going to be my next question... it's possible. Can you check and see if it's blocking it for some reason or another?
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Probably cause Replex pulled his Authorization page.
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Probably cause Replex pulled his Authorization page.
That's not correct.
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baiting
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No though it does seem you go out of your way to irritate and manipulate people into confrontations here on the board. Which is, in fact, trying to control others.
Its obvious that you have no love for teh people developing LTxi.
You've stated your going to develop your own version.
That would seem to be a reasonable course of action, for someone stating your convictions.
Like the giant head says, "once you've chosen your path follow it with conviction".
Good luck with your release, may it do all you wish and clean your fish.
Now why don't you concentrate your efforts on your work, rather than trying to get every thread about LTxi locked?
edits- these boards don't seem to like me much ;P
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Exactly why would it be locked? I am just responding as I see fit.
There is nothing wrong in that action.
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Thats interesting- first time I have heard of this. If you could provide me with a time when this happens I can research it to see if its on our end or yours. However it all seems to be fine on this end, just send me a PM with the time and character name.
It makes an HTTP Request on Port 80, so it shouldnt be blocked or anything.
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what information is being sent?
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use a packet sniffer.
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shouldnt have to
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Character name, monarch name, server, ltx version and old account ID.
Please note that this old account ID is NOT your login id, it is either a turbine assigned encrypted account name or an old zone name, neither of which could be used for any purpose nowadays.
This data is encrypted before it is sent, to ensure that no one can view this data openly.
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ok, thanks, was just curious..whenever i hear "data sent" with AC, i just gotta ask 
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That is great you guys helped clear that up. I was kind of wondering myself.
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Character name, monarch name, server, ltx version and old account ID.
None of that information needs to be send.
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for an "Authorization" server it does.
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I think Kinslayer is just saying why send it? The authorization is not really needed in his honest opinion.
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ELTank doesn't send anything other than a request for the current Auth file. All processing is then done locally.
It has additional checks to make sure the file is coming from the right place and is a valid file, but other than that, it needs to send nothing out.
Different designs to do the same thing I guess. I used to send character name and ID for stat tracking, when I first added auths, but it became pointless after a while.
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I know LTXR won't have this.
(I am not trying to burn or cause any problems here. Just making a statement about our plugin.)
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You notice, that when Lil Blob opens his pie hole, you only hear two things:
1) 'We' are making a version of LifeTank that will rock 'when' it comes out.
2) I hate you and want to start a flame fest, and I don't care how I do it.
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Chaz, that's
drama
and I am sorry you had to resort to my standards. As such, Sticking to the subject at hand here was my intentions. Nothing else. I made statements. Everyone does, get used to it. Psst...It's a message board.
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Will you all please knock it off...
You are driving poor Kestrina crazy.
/e carefully oils and polishs the new boxing gloves Yula gave Kestrina...
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Elgar: you're also assuming no one wants to hack the plugin directly.
If you do all the security processing locally, all it takes is a couple people with talent and a hex editor, and it won't matter.
If you send the request to the server and use the server to validate the request, then it is exponentially harder to bypass (if done properly)
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^ True. I just decided that if they were that cleaver to be able to hack all the protections then it's too much hassle to bother stopping.
Add to that, if they are cleaver enough to hack out the Auth protections I've put in, then sending data to the server for auth is just as easily hacked out.
I decided on a level of Auth that would take a good mnemonic hacker to defeat. Anything above that I decided was superfluous.
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This is why I stated what I did. It really doesn't help matters.
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Eh.. that's a different discussion for a different time.
I've just been doing a lot of application security training lately and have been deep into a lot of people's code, and seen what works and what doesn't for me personally. Judging from what I've seen, a properly done authorization server would be very difficult to hack out unless you're really good at reverse engineering, where as a local security scheme (even a pretty good one) is fairly trivial with little reverse engineering skill.
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It's very easy to create a "spoof" for authentication for plugins if source is available.
However, trying to obtain/downloading the MD5 Checksum is much harder.
Reverse engineering is what happened on AC-Hackers. I can't go into details, but there was a version of Lifetank II that had been reversed. SPK came to AC-Hackers to obtain how we did it on the pretense he provided AC-Hackers members a unlimited/un-restricted version of the plugin. This was of course 2-3 years ago.
I knew how it was done, and it took all but 2-3 days of work to get it to work.
The best authentication would of course be aquring a ssl connection in the authentication process and a non-revealing MD5.
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Double Encryption AND 1024bit security tunnel.
Thanks for the idea.
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my only question is....why all the encryption and auth servers?
Does a plugin really need to do all that?
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My question is, Why dont you stay out of our source and work on something you can comprehend easier? You are asking questions with obvious answers in an attempt to create some sort of flame war.
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I have the source too. Given to me by it's creator. Does that make it mine too?
Lol, only messing with you .
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Replex..unless you got something worth saying, stfu.
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Nah Elgar I am just referencing the modifications the LTxi team has made to the source, when we say "our source" we are referecing the changes that we made since the alpha 6 version
Our C# port will be done in about a month though, should increase efficiency overall now that we have a broader view of what exactly needs to go into it
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