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will pay good...pm
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paying money for plugins isn't allowed on VNBoards last I checked.
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not paying cash...but i do have anything u could ever want on all servers
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<< but i do have anything u could ever want on all servers >>
I want a flying monkey.
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Offer me Nexus Kouija on Leafcull, and I'll think about it.
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Maddy_ACEDL posted:
<< but i do have anything u could ever want on all servers >>
I want a flying monkey.
Heh, i just finished the book 'Wicked', your post reminded me of that. Going to the play in 2 weeks as well. Very good read!
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Drakier,
I do not remember reading anything about paying for plugins is against COD?
When people use paypal to donate to the decal devs no one sees anything wrong with that do they?
We do not even know what he is asking the plugin to do. He may want a plugin that counts the number of bunnies in Holtburg.
If someone is willing to create a plugin for him and he is willing to pay for it than that is great. In fact I would love to see the decal devs getting paid for all their hard work.
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Donating to a plugin author is very much different than soliciting work on a plugin.
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Chaz,
I am not understanding what is wrong with someone soliciting making a plugin? Do you consider that immoral?
I am not trying to be argumentative. I am just trying to understand.
If I paid you a sum of money because I wanted a plugin to automatically sort all the items in my chest by value. How would that be wrong?
I guess it really doesn't matter but I am just trying to figure out the logic here. I mean I think you guys are great and I am not trying to anger the Decal gods. 
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<< I am not understanding what is wrong with someone soliciting making a plugin? >>
Depends on what you want the plugin to do. My first thought is if someone is asking to make them a plugin, with some type of offer of payment, and you have to do it via PM's, then they are probably asking for something that breaks the rules or is in a grey area.
If you have an idea for a plugin then post it here. Could be surprised, if others think it is a good idea then it may get built.
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...or is already built. No need to be secretive.
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Thanks Maddy.
Ah, OK. Now I understand.
I was under the assumption that it was a legitimate request.
My only point was that there is nothing wrong with paying for a service.
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I think it's wrong to write a plugin for pay, personally.
Takes it from the hobby realm to someplace icky.
Plus, it's against the Decal Code of Ethics if nothing else.
Besides, writing even a simple plugin requires incredible amounts of time. Who's gonna do that for a few piddly in-game items? You couldn't afford it in RL money, trust me.
Plugins are a labor of love and/or obsession. That's how they get written. Money can't buy you love, brother.
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This post could possibly fall under the no buying/selling for cash except for in the classified ads section. The original post did not specify method of payment, so an assumption of cash was entirely reasonable. That was clarified to non-cash, but still info on what kind of plugin he was looking for. The fact that he would not say in public, and wanted PMs only, and was willing to pay, makes it probable that it is a plugin of a nature that no respectable decal developer would take the job.
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Gouru,
So how much did he say he would pay you!?!?
It could be argued that the COD does not specifically apply to coding plugins for money. Besides which I am sure "incentives" have been donated in the past.
Chaz,
I understand what you are saying now. I thought he was on the up and up.
I know writing code is a pain in the arse but there is a strong sense of pride in doing it. I understand there is a difference between doing it for a living and doing it because you want to / have to so that the little voices stop singing in your head. My only point was that mountain dew and funyuns cost money and that is not even including the caffeine injections. 
Maddy,
Make me a plugin to count the bunnies! I'll pay tre-fiffy.
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its kinda like ppl saying they would give money for faile or whoever to work on bandit sight again.
thats horrible..
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He is from Darktide, I can make a good guess...
* oh my throat is sooo dry... thirsty.. awwhh.. Ahww... must quench... *
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My thinking was like Gourus... last I checked, soliciting of cash on VNBoards was not allowed because you're not allowed to "profit" through VNBoards.. or something like that.. Gouru quoted the section or close to.
As for it not being a cash request.. that was my mistake.. most people who say they'll "pay" usually means cash, and most people who read it will interpret it the same. That's the problem with vaugeness.
As for the Donation vs Solicitation thing... Donations are completely voluntary and actually cannot be requested through VNBoards either.. I can't sit here and make a post saying "people.. paypal me money!" because that wouldn't be allowed.... even if voluntary and even if though donation. However.. it is completely differernt for someone to make a post saying .. "please remember to thank all of your favorite developers.. and donations are always appreciated" as long as *I* was not the person saying that... or the person saying it wasn't showing any favor to anyone in specific.. it's a big gray area, but there are things that fall cleanly on the wrong side of the line.
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i already have thirst..
but i still iso someone to make me a plugin
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a plugin for what?
that's the point.
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Please, please let it be a plugin to count the bunnies! 
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My PMs aren't working---send me an email at: malvar@usc.edu with what you want in the plugin and how much money you're paying.
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Swordz: did you not read the thread?
1) he said he's not offering money.
2) if he were, this transaction would not be allowed on the VNBoard system
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Yes, I know he said he wasn't offering money, but that might not be the case.
Plus, if he made the offer via e-mail, it wouldn't violate VNBoards rules, since the transcation didn't take place on VNboards
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Yes, I know he said he wasn't offering money, but that might not be the case.
Plus, if he made the offer via e-mail, it wouldn't violate VNBoards rules, since the transcation didn't take place on VNboards
True, however you're post is CLEARLY a solicitation for money. And against the rules.
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But you're assuming that I'm referring to real life money, and I never stated that was the case. Money can mean MMDS as well.
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_Swordz_ posted:
But you're assuming that I'm referring to real life money, and I never stated that was the case. Money can mean MMDS as well.
I wonder how well that argument would stand in front of a jury of reasonable minded people.
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doesnt matter, hes not doing anything against CoC
all you can do is assume he is
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But you're assuming that I'm referring to real life money, and I never stated that was the case. Money can mean MMDS as well.
I wonder how well that argument would stand in front of a jury of reasonable minded people.
It worked just fine for OJ.
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<< But you're assuming that I'm referring to real life money, and I never stated that was the case. Money can mean MMDS as well.
I wonder how well that argument would stand in front of a jury of reasonable minded people. >>
It wouldn't as the majority of reasonable minded peopel would have zero idea what a MMD is and would tend to assume that when you say "money" you mean the stuff the average person uses on a day to day basis.
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Yes, but people here aren't your average minded people, and they know exactly what an MMD is.
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im on msn messeger rather have a chat rather than play email tag
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<< Yes, but people here aren't your average minded people, and they know exactly what an MMD is. >>
But that wasn't the question now was it? The question, in case you forgot or don't won't to scroll up 3 or 4 posts to read it was:
" I wonder how well that argument would stand in front of a jury of reasonable minded people."
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It doesnt matter what the hell "reasonable minded people" think
Unless you have proof that they arent talking about MMD or IG cash, you cant do crap about it, no matter what you ASSume
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<< Unless you have proof that they arent talking about MMD or IG cash, you cant do crap about it, no matter what you ASSume>>
If you ever appear before a jury you'll be in for a rude awakening as to how the legal process really works.
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Well let's just thank god that VN boards are not RL..
"If you ever appear before a jury you'll be in for a rude awakening as to how the legal process really works."
Tell that to O.J.?
What can anyone on VN do to them tho?
What have they violated? nothing..
you can keep assuming hes talking about RL money, but the last time I checked, theres money in this game called Asheron's call, am I right?
Let's also be glad you arent a moderator because you would ban just about anyone because you *think* they are doing something wrong, when infact you have no clue
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I paid for a plugin once.
I had a guy write me a plugin that recorded the logins and loggoffs of people on your friends list when I ran an xp chain.
I gave him 300 MMDs for it.
I hope this was against Decal rules.
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why would you intentionally HOPE something is against the rules?
that's just rude and disrespectful.
everyone makes mistakes and accidentally break or bend the rules.. but the difference between that an INTENTIONALLY doing it are totally separate things. It really shows someone's character who would go out and intentionally break laws.
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actually I meanst wasn't...had a few drinks tonight, lol
I would never try to cirucunvent the rules.
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<< Tell that to O.J.? >>
He would agree 100% with my statement.
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Hehe Abdul_TD ... ya caught me offguard.. I didn't think you were the type of person to do that..
and no.. technically paying ingame items isn't against the rules as long as you OFFERED the items for the plugin and the author didn't demand. It places the burden on the other party.
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