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i believe there used to be a program that was a tool to make an allegiance tree.
is there still? or possible something easy to make that would help make a tree without having to do it manually by using the /allegiance info command on every member
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11k vassals = 93 hours continuous to map my guild, you wont see me doing it, lol
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6k members here adn i shudder if i have to do it
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I don't think it would be really possible without either:
1) requring at least most of the users to run a plugin which could "Fit them in" to the tree in their appropriate place.
.. you have to remember that each person has a Patron, and Vassals (which can be Zero or More). That allows you to at least make SOME connection down the tree
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2) do allegiance info on the users to create a full listing of them.
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3) create a site where the users go themselves to input their name, patron, and vassals. Then you can use the input data to link subtrees together.
*shrug* either way.. good luck! I don't know of any plugins currently functional that do Allegiance Mapping unless TreeStats does it or something.
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sounds like a fun plugin
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does Bandit Monarch work?
last I checked, all "Bandit" plugins were dead... and Faile had no interest in fixing them to work post-ToD.
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Treestats has all the necessary info for every char that uses it and a working client already out there. If the code that used to compile an "xp chain" could be modified a bit to make a "tree" of all memebers of a given monarchy, that seems like more or less what we want right there. Now whether the author has the time or inclination to DO that is a totally seperate issue hehe, but it's probably the only realistic chance of getting such functionality anytime soon, if ever.
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Ive done this manually before for my allegiance, and it took several days tika.. I would never attempt it manually ROFL - i still have most of my tree, so that would cut the work down for you LOL Maybe someone can update bandit monarch? LOL
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Nice thing about Bandit was it didn't require people to go to any site etc.
I'd like to see it come back to life.
I thought the way I read it was waiting till Decal settled out and then would look at what was needed.
Put me down as one who thinks this is a missing plugin that needs to be "found".
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<< I thought the way I read it was waiting till Decal settled out and then would look at what was needed. >>
To my understanding all the bandit plugins are now dead unless Falie decides to come back or release the source code.
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With the new ranks of officers, it may be easy enough to have a mule account run it for ya. The bad thing about Treestats and Meginjarder, is that it only has the allegiance tree info for anyone that is running the plugin, and their direct patron/vassals. It can create a spotty allegiance tree, but it won't be complete unless every charecter logs in and updates.
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I made such a plugin about half a year ago and recently posted the source here on the boards. It can pretty much scan your entire tree automatically and save the results to an XML file.
I created an installer for the plugin, you can download it at http://direlands.net/gawa/allegiancescanner/
Let me know if you need any help using it.. you'll pretty much wish to use the following commands:
@alls newtree <character name> => create a new tree for the specified character
@alls start => start scanning
@alls stop => stop scanning
@alls save <filename> => save tree to the specified file.
This should give you an idea of what it does. Other useful functions are loading a tree from a saved file (to resume scanning) and autosaving, to avoid losing work when something crashes.
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/e looks at his monarch and wonders what she's up to
5500+ members
MAYBE 30 ppl active, not counting various alts per RL person
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Another option... if you have 3 people setup to do scanning.. and you have 3 vassals under the monarch, who have a ton of people under them.. scan starting at the vassals. A scan of 5000+ members, broke down by 1000, with 3 people scanning would take quite a bit less.
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This is awesome
However a couple of questions,Ive noticed there is a 26 second pause between requests,I assume that's to stop you getting banned for chat spamming.
Is that length neccessary? I'm currently running it for the Legends monarchy currently 15995 characters and I've worked out I will have to run this for roughly 5 days until completion, is there a command that would lower the pause rate and would that be recommended?
Thanks in advance
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There's a 30 second timer on querying the server about /allegiance info's. Trying to ask any more often and you get back a message that you must wait xx seconds.
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Yes, and the plugin waits approximately 31 seconds between requests, as I was sometimes having trouble when I had it set to 30. The plugin takes about 5 seconds for a single request, leaving a waiting period of 26 seconds between requests.
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