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Chazcon
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Help me figure out this problem. I've played with a couple character planners and I'm not getting the answers I need.
Trying to figure out the total XP required for this template (a max tinker):
Attributes: 100/100/60/10/100/10
Spec: Creature Enchantment/Item Enchantment/Arcane Lore/Armor Tink/Item Tink/Magic Item Tink/Weapon Tink
Augmentation Gems used:
Oswald’s Enhancement / 500m each x10 = 5b
Jibril’s Essence /Specialize Armor Tinkering /1b
Yoshi’s Essence /Specialize Item Tinkering /1b
Celdiseth’s Essence /Specialize Magic Item Tinkerin /1b
Koga’s Essence /Specialize Weapon Tinkering /1b
Charmed Smith /+5% to Imbues /2b
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Now, including the costs of all those aug gems, how much total XP is required to hit the following skill levels, buffed with 7's, with a Focusing Stone equipped and wearing a major for every attribute and skill:
Creature Enchantment 330 /Item Enchantment 250 /Arcane Lore 330 /Armor Tink MAX /Item Tink MAX/Magic Item Tink MAX/Weapon Tink MAX
And lastly, what would the maxed tinker skills be?
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Well, my tinkerer is 100/100/10/10/100/10 and has spec'd Weapon, Armor, and 38% imbues, and with Majors, buffs, Font, Dolls Eyes, Tusker Spit, Olthoi food, etc.
676 Armor Tinkering (681 with Tusker Spit ... 931 with Spit and +250 Rare)
676 Weapon Tinkering (681 with Tusker Spit ... 926 with Spit and +250 Rare)
http://www.treestats.com/index.php?Name=Move&Server=3&Type=Char
When all is said and done, I've dumped about 35 billion XPs into my tinkerer, and still climbing (Want to Max out Cooking, Alchemy, Lockpick, and Magic Item Tinkering).
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thanks arch, i'll go check that out
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This is my template: D I S T U R B E D
I just recently pulled 1bill out of Leadership to spec Magic Item Tink, and he has Charmed Smith. I've pulled XP out of places that i could to get gems/keep skills maxed. All he needs now is Item tink spec, and the 10 coord's. So that will be another 6billion XP. for a total of about 52bill.
4bill each for endur, coord, str, focus, weapon tink, item tink, magic item tink
28billion xp
11billion for augments (spec's+attribs)
39billion xp
Optional xp
leadership
item magic
creature magic
life magic
mana conversion
self
arcane
So in essence, to just do tink skills, you need 39bill for max. In order to add magics, its a few more bill. For what you are looking for, a spec max tinkerer that can buff himself without touching other skills between 43 and 47 billion total....maxing leader adds another 4 bill to that.
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from what i can tell max tinker skills are
681 weapon (with tusker spit, majors, 7's, focus stone, brill, jojii)
685 armor (with endurance olthoi cake, tusker spit, majors, 7's, focus stone, brill, jojii, doll's eye)
723 magic (with tusker spit, majors, 7's, focus stone, brill, jojii)
671 item (with tusker spit x2, majors, 7's, focus stone, brill, jojii)
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excellent information, thanks very much
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Too bad we cant do the +5 stat thing 18 times instead of 10. 100 100 100 10 100 10 would be an insane mule. Above info appears correct... except there is that focus gem for noble armor in Oct event.
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Thanks for the info....
I'm at 190 on my tinekr char and htought I was just about done... forgot about the +5 for cord..
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effective Tinkerer
http://treestats.com/index.php?Type=Char&Name=Dbd-Quinn&Server=2
Str End, Foc 4B each= 12 Bil
AT WT 4.2B each= 8.4 Bil
Magics 0.6 Bil each, mana con .3 Bil = 2.1 Bil
Total XP for Basic Tinkerer prior to Augmentation: 22.5 Bil
Spec AT WT 1 bil each
38% Imbue 2 Bil
=Total augmentation Bonus Cost 4 Bil
Total xp for effective AT/WT tinkerer 26.5 Bil
Magic Item (optional) +4B = 30.5 Bil = lvl 190ish
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With rare gems you can add +250 to each skill on Immortal Bob's list there:
Armor Tink 935 / Item Tink 921 / MIT 975 / Weapon Tink 931
using a tink calculator and these figures I came up with this:
Armor Tink - you can get 97.7% on a 10th tink with w10 Steel on a w7 item.
ItemTink - you can get 99.9% on a 1st tink with w5 Silk on a w10 item.
Magic Item Tink - you can get 98.24% on a 10th tink with w10 Opal on a w8 item.
Weapon Tink - you can get 97.42% on a 10th tink with w10 Mahogany on a w7 item.
Weapon Tink - you can get 93.7% on a 10th tink with w10 Granite on a w8 item.
--- that last gives one pause
But if there were rare gems for attributes also you could add +500...
Armor Tink 1185/ Item Tink 1171/ MIT 1223/ Weapon Tink 1181
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Don't the pearls offer +250 stats?
http://acvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Rares
Strength
http://acvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Rares.Detail&id=59
Endurance
http://acvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Rares.Detail&id=72
Coord
http://acvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Rares.Detail&id=93
Focus
http://acvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Rares.Detail&id=81
Not sure how much time you'd actually have for tinking, as most rares have a "you can't use this rare x minutes after another's use".
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the timer between rares is 3 mins
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now that we have new beers......
+5 weapon tink
and you can swap out the oh so annoying to obtain endurance olthoi cake for the new easy to get beer
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Max tinker in AT, MIT, WT, with IT being the weak sister. This template has NO fighting ability and levels entirely on passup and fellowship XP. Requires level 192 and 33 BILLION XP. Good luck.
CREATION
Attributes: 100/100/10/10/100/10
Spec: Arcane Lore / Creature Enchantment / Item Enchantment / Leadership.
Train: Armor Tinkering / Item Tinkering at creation.
Magic Item Tinkering @ level 5 / Weapon Tinkering at level 9
EQUIPMENT
Font of Jojii Strength +2, Coordination +2, Focus +2
Doll’s Eye Endurance +2
Focusing Stone Focus +25
Brilliance Focus +50 / 30 sec
Major Cantrip item for Strength, Endurance, Coordination, Focus, AT, IT, MIT, WT
Scrolls, comps (see Procedure below)
FOODS
Strength +50 Apothecary’s Zongo Stout
Endurance +50 Hunter’s Stock Amber / Olthoi Cake
Coordination +50 Amber Ape / Chocolate Olthoi Cake
Focus +50 Tusker Spit Ale / Olthoi Carrot Cake
RARE GEMS
Strength +250 / 15 min Lugian’s Pearl
Endurance +250 / 15 min Ursuin’s Pearl
Coordination +250 / 15 min Wayfarer’s Pearl
Focus +250 / 15 min Magus’s Pearl
Armor Tinkering +250 / 15 min Smithy’s Crystal
Item Tinkering +250 / 15 min Tinker’s Crystal
Magic Item Tinkering +250 / 15 min Imbuer’s Crystal
Weapon Tinkering +250 / 15 min Artist’s Crystal
AUGMENTATION GEMS
Oswald’s Enhancement +5 to Coordination 500million each x10 = 5 billion
Jibril’s Essence Specialize Armor Tinkering 1 billion
Yoshi’s Essence Specialize Item Tinkering 1 billion
Celdiseth’s Essence Specialize Magic Item Tinkering 1 billion
Koga’s Essence Specialize Weapon Tinkering 1 billion
Charmed Smith +5% to Imbues 2 billion
PROCEDURE
1) Create character, buy all 9 basic portal scrolls, Creature Mastery 6, all level 7 Creature scrolls for your prime attributes and skills. Buy required comps.
2) Swear XP generating characters under you, and/or leech from fellowships to level.
3) Do augmentation gem quests as shown above.
4) Max / raise your attributes and skills in the following order:
att / skill base XP cost
a. max Leadership 236 4,203,819,496
b. max Focus 290 4,019,438,644
c. max Endurance 250 4,019,438,644
d. max Coordination 290 4,019,438,644
e. max Strength 290 4,019,438,644
f. max Armor Tink 526 4,203,987,256
g. max Weapon Tink 526 4,203,987,256
h. max Magic Item Tink 526 4,203,987,256
i. max Item Tink 486 4,203,987,256
j. raise Item Enchant 250 18,634,617
k. raise Arcane Lore 290 70,511,600
l. raise Creature 270 84,284,685
5) Get a level 7 equipable item for your prime attributes and skills, and drop Creature.
6) Drop Leadership when 4,203,819,496 from total XP goal.
XP COST AND LEVEL
Total XP cost for this finished template, after dropping Creature and Leadership, is 32,982,849,817 XP at level 192.
SKILL LEVELS
Configuration Armor T Item T Magic Item T Weapon T
7’s, majors, F stone, brill, Jojii’s, Doll’s Eye 675 635 713 675
add beer / cake 685 645 723 685
add 1 skill rare gem 935 895 973 935
add appropriate attribute rare gem(s) 1186 1146 1223 1186
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I am glad I already have one and don't have to start from scratch. 
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You forgot to add Black luster pearls, I think they are called (they drop from Caul chests)
Nice information regardless.
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what about cooking and alchemy?
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Bah my template is flawed, I didn't add the 11 billion for the aug gems I listed.
PROCEDURE
1) Create character, buy all 9 basic portal scrolls, Creature Mastery 6, all level 7 Creature scrolls for your prime attributes and skills. Buy required comps.
2) Swear XP generating characters under you, and/or leech from fellowships to level.
3) Do augmentation gem quests as shown above.
4) Max / raise / drop your attributes and skills in the following order:
att / skill base XP cost level total
a. max Leadership 236 4,203,819,496 125 4,203,819,496
b. max Focus 290 4,019,438,644 144 8,223,258,140
c. max Endurance 250 4,019,438,644 156 12,242,696,784
d. max Coordination 290 4,019,438,644 166 16,262,135,428
e. max Strength 290 4,019,438,644 173 20,281,574,072
f. max Armor Tink 526 4,203,987,256 180 24,485,561,328
g. max Weapon Tink 526 4,203,987,256 186 28,689,548,584
h. max Magic Item Tink 526 4,203,987,256 191 32,893,535,840
i. max Item Tink 486 4,203,987,256 196 37,097,523,096
j. raise Item Enchant 250 18,634,617 196 37,116,157,713
k. raise Arcane Lore 290 70,511,600 196 37,186,669,313
l. raise Creature 270 84,284,685 196 37,270,953,998
m. 6 bill worth of Aug gems 6,000,000,000 199 43,270,953,998
n. drop Leadership -4,203,819,496 199 43,270,953,998
o. 5 bill worth of Aug gems 5,000,000,000 203 44,067,134,502
XP COST AND LEVEL
Total XP cost for this finished template, after dropping Creature and Leadership, is 44,067,134,502 XP at level 203.
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well, that is a good way to do it, but the tinkerer wouldnt be effective to do tinks for a while. I would increase the attribs and tinker skills at the same time, that way you can do tinks, be them not maxed. Just do it smart. If your coord costs 20 mill, and focus costs 20 mill, and item tinker costs 20 mill, you raise the item tink till its more effective to get it higher by attributes. for instance 2 to 1.
You want the attribs to cost half of the cost of the skill. That way you get a better yield out of the xp you spend.
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