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Who was leading you all just now? Just wanna know who we all should appeal. Try and be a little less obvious you scum. I hope you are happy winning "teh game", won't be anyone left to fight soon with **** like you around.
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/laugh....wtf
Used to be a fun game, thanks for ruining it.
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Valgrim get on MSN.. i wanna bitch and moan like a lil schoolgirl and complaing about my internet life and that nobody loves me etc etc
Hint: I'm trying to be as l33t as some people.
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I'm so sick of Mids complaining that Hib has a big Zerg at times, but you know whats even worse? People that farm, using radar. I get sick every time I see it, then have to listen to you bitch about us zerging! Get over yourselves.
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Which patch did Mythic include maphacks again? for some reason I didnt download that one. Oh it was a Midgard only patch, silly me.....
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this post is a joke right?
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Probably Guruth. Or Qeg.
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It's got to be a joke.
You guys where fighting gaurds out in the open. You got yer ass kicked so you came here to whine about it? Give us a little credit man.
Go ahead and appeal though if it makes you feel good inside.
Edit- We just killed you again and you got the jump on us high on the wall. Does is suck dying so fast?
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/cry /whine /cry more
All 3 realms have cheaters and plenty of them. I have no idea who they are, but I HATE THEM , they are LOSERS.
All 3 realms zerg when they have the numbers.
Cheaters will always be scum. (for those of you that read Chanters and not cheaters /cheer)
People that dont cheat will always hate cheaters.
All 3 realms have overpowered classes.
All 3 realms have underpowered crap specs races classes.
All 3 realms have incredibly easy ways of power leveling.
All 3 realms have classes that absoloutly suck at leveling.
All 3 realms have overpowered GROUP realm abilities I think. Though im still looking for midgards. (help me find it)
All 3 realms have beautifuly created zones.
All 3 realms have horrible wastes of space that are considered zones.
All 3 realms have pros and cons to the setup of their frontier.
All 3 realms have had their share of nerfs despite Mark Jacobs saying they'd not be like varant with nerfs.
All 3 realms are lied to regularly by the game provider.
All 3 realms continue paying to play cause the game is the only one of its kind at this time, and yes it is fun and unfun at times.
The game still has great potential, but it wont see me renew til the next expansion muekekeke. My money you NO HAVE!!!!
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It was rather obvious. We're all here for a good time, its sad a few can go and ruin it for others.
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Yes it was rather obvious to find you fighting the patrols right in front of a keep. You don't come to Midgard often do you?
I will say this again:
YOU WHERE OUT IN THE OPEN IN A HIGH TRAFFIC AREA. YOU WHERE IN FRONT OF A KEEP.
You need to learn the land a little better and not run right in front of a keep if you don't want to be spotted.
I hope we ruined the game for you. It's one less person that comes here to whine when they lose.
Thanks for playing DAOC.
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Yeah, they must have AIE power to hax you so well, Valgrim. Paranoid schizophrenia is a bitch, ain't it?
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hah.. arthagus using radar, thats funny. You really a good joker valgrim, FU man, learn to be beaten n00b.
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Binadorf sure taught us a valuable lesson ladies and gents.
d00ds still exist!
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Who's that cute bard with ya Val? Aeriola? hrmmm she's purrrty!!
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...... Ariala..... Ariala..... Ariala......
*sniffles*
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Pythias thank you for the typical defensive idiot response I was hoping for, the people involved even had enough class to spare me that.
High traffic area...in front of a keep...not really. You came at us out of nowhere as we JUST engaged the guards we were not FIGHTING them, you had NO warning. I could live with that...
But you were tracking us. One group came to rez...and I watched you erratically run around us as if following something else other than your own eyes...
That also is excusable...BUT then you ran straight for the group that was coming to rez us, when there is no way in hell you coulda known they were coming from the direction they were.
And THEN you killed them and sat there with them, completely out of sight of me...and another group came to rez and you instantly stood up and bolted straight at us. As for the wall...I came back to make sure you weren't just lucky before. Again you knew we were there before we got there, my scout watched you scurry off so I ran through and you knew exactly where we were again.
How do you explain this? You just knew there was a 3rd group far away rezzing me at that moment didn't you? You knew exactly how long it would take them to get to me even though I didnt even know they were coming....and you just estimated PRECISELY WHEN TO JUMP UP AND ATTACK FROM FAR AWAY?
I have been here long enough, I've seen you pukes come and go, and I know when I see radar users. Don't EVEN give me any excuse I sat and watched it. One or more of you in that group is a radar user, just wish I knew who. I don't have any Mythic friends so I can't just get rid of you by snapping my fingers, and I didn't appeal anyone.
I can however post here so everyone knows you and how low you stoop to win, and how you ruin the game for the rest of us.
If one of you wasn't using radar you are just damn lucky people, but whether you cheat or not your realm needs a huge nerf, this game is so unbalanced it's sick. They should just remove Midgard so they don't have to worry about it, and obviously can't balance. I love fighting Albs...nice and fair.
Dengar stay out of this. I'd like to respect one Mid at least, I know what I saw.
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rawr...i agree with you Thinrae....Ariala is hawt!
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>>How do you explain this? You just knew there was a 3rd group far away rezzing me at that moment didn't you? <<
Something I like to do when I kill folks is keep one targetted, and go back on patrol.
Provided I don't leave the very very large area that the body is in, I will know when they are rezzed or release.
Dead people make great bait. They don't move, their intel sucks, and they can beg for help.
Valgrim, quit the game, go play checkers.
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How the hell am I gonna bitch when I lose at checkers? God you Mids are dumb.
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There's one thing I've learned... Valgrim doesn't post bullshit. I mean... while he's sober. Not that he is all that often... but generally he's less... coherent when he's not.
I've experienced many similar instances, usually against the Mids. Not name names, placing blame, etc. But if he had someone out there stealthed, and watching you all chase after him when he was no where you could've possibly seen him. Yeah. I'd say that's a little less than nonchalant.
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I just want you people to stop cheating, you do realize your realm is so incredibly overpowered even without relics that you don't need to right? You could just play fair like we do with the Albs and it's DAMN FUN.
But no, you HAVE to win every time. There are a couple groups from Mid..one consisting mostly of ex hibs that NOBODY even wants to fight. I know this group uses radar too, but if I see them I just avoid them for the rest of the night so I don't usually get pissed off.
I have seen this group take out 2-3 groups of Hibs at the same time. Not just crappy low lvl Hibs either...you are ruining this game and running people off.
Sure Mythic is responsible for this insane unbalance but damn you guys don't mind exploiting your advantages do you? Would be ok if that's all you did, but to cheat on top of it is pathetic.
I'm sorry, if the situation was reversed and my realm and my group was capable of beating pretty much anything I ran into EVER I would be petitioning to get myself nerfed in a second. That's just me though I love a good fight, so do most honest people. Seems Midgard is home to sore losers though, and the place to be if you prefer poor sportsmanship.
I have never encountered so many rude people in one realm, even if it is a good fight you /rude /laugh /slap. I respect my enemy, even the bastards that laugh at me. Makes me want to fight even more sure...but Mythic prevents that from happening atm. So all it does is make you look like a buncha little kids that need a beating.
Bah whatever, keep doing what you do best. If it wasn't for 5 am raids and a huge population of Europeans who never had a chance to start on a Euro server thanks to MYTHIC, your realm would be on par with us at least in terms of popualtion. Then we might have fun.
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The nice thing about Valgrim is that you really never have to wonder exactly what he's thinking.
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Valgrim, this concept is really basic, and I find it amusing you so quickly label it cheating. You were watched, you know what makes good bait? Dead that aren't releasing. You weren't releasing, it's pretty obvious why, you think you're going to be allowed to lay there unwatched then you have something coming.
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Everyone knows Midgaard has the overpowered classes. Simply why I could care less to respect one of them and even think about being nice to one. Same reason I log out in DF on their side to gank as many greys when I login. It's an overpowered realm, you know who joins the overpowered realm are people that can't play, or want to kill people without a challenge for some reason they think it makes them cool. But then again Valgrim, you nuked me for 738 tonight, and I have max resist, that's bullshit too. You lil Hib bastards  I love to give my rps to you guys any day of the weak then midgaard though. Olaf is the only one from Midgaard who deserves respect. And hello to the Seventh Legion, saw Bom out there, years ago I was there, any of you remember Xylak the Zerker?
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Yup, Midgard is overpowered, welcome to 2 months ago.
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Erm...
What is overpowered in Midgard?
We still have AE stun, savages, and supp bonedancers, but I can't see how those 3 things make the whole realm overpowered.
In all seriousness, excuse me for being daft about it, but really.
Thanes, Skalds, Shaman, Berserkers, Shadowblades, Non-sup Bonedancers, summoning Spiritmasters, Suppression Runemasters. Off the top of my head, all those classes need help.
Healers, Hunters, Supp Sm's, Dark SM's, Dark runemasters, Runecarving Runemasters, all equal to their counterparts, in some instances maybe with a slight advantage/disadvantage.
Savages, Supp Bonedancers, better then their counterparts, but also low in number.
That's just my thoughts, I don't know anything about cheating, but it does bother me a bit that you seem to believe that Midgard as a whole is overpowered, as i watch people flock to Hibernian servers to play with less broken classes.
And of course you have more fun fighting Albions, their very melee resitant but have less ability to impeded caster heavy groups. To me it seems like your judging balance on who you can destroy vs who might actually beat you. Biased? Of course, we all are.
Anyways, good luck on the whole cheating bit, if someone did cheat I hope they get caught, if not, well no need to slander em for a guess.
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"I just want you people to stop cheating, you do realize your realm is so incredibly overpowered even without relics that you don't need to right? You could just play fair like we do with the Albs and it's DAMN FUN. "
wait a hib telling us mids that we are overpowered?? HAHAHA
just a question how are we so damn overpowered? zerks? yeah right, savages? ohh the hole 10 of them yeah right, BDs? great solo class nothing more
grow up you are nothing but a sore loser
next time you kill someone im going to appeal you since you must be cheating right?
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MY SPOON IS TOO BIG!
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"You weren't releasing, it's pretty obvious why, you think you're going to be allowed to lay there unwatched then you have something coming."
Slight difference between corpse camping and running off to kill the incoming rezzers before they're even close.
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>>But no, you HAVE to win every time. There are a couple groups from Mid..one consisting mostly of ex hibs that NOBODY even wants to fight. I know this group uses radar too, but if I see them I just avoid them for the rest of the night so I don't usually get pissed off.
I have seen this group take out 2-3 groups of Hibs at the same time. Not just crappy low lvl Hibs either...you are ruining this game and running people off.<<
My my...
First, you are talking about my guild, obviously. We don't cheat. We do not use radar. I can only think of one incident between us that would ever make you think we do cheat. When we found you sitting under a tree near Svasud Faste. How did we find you sitting under a tree at Svasud Faste? Here is how...
http://www.theforumisdown.com/uploadfiles/0103/ValgrimIsFullOfShit.jpg
If you are referring to any other incidents (other than the fact we manage to kill you -- which isn't cheating), I am sure they are as easily debunked as this. Really Valgrim...
But I will add, in closing, that we do play to ruin the gaming experience of people like yourself. We do not however, cheat to do it.
/cheers (enjoy eating dirt in the future, something I'm sure you will continue to do with great regularity)
Edit: By the way, if you /know/ we use Radar... how do you ever see us coming first? And even if you do... how do you "avoid" us for the rest of the night? Trust me, if we did use Radar you would probably fall victim to it more than anyone else.
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Actually a similar incident(not getting into details) with said group has happened to me that made me suspicious. Was a while ago... I appealed them but they still here so I guess I was wrong. Point of the matter is if you suspect something just appeal it, no need to bring it here. Accusations doesn't solve anything.
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They were spotted long before they got close to rezzing you. Are you honestly saying Hibernia does not keep stealthed watchers and patrols in areas the enemy is?
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Okay guys, let's make a little comparison:
First, let's start with Vilna, Stara, Warfield, Sprakj, and the whole guild of Cold Conscience. Valgrim accuses all of them of cheating in this post.
Number of times these guys have been suspended/banned for cheating: 0.
Now, lets take the accuser, Valgrim.
Number of times Valgrim has been suspended/banned for cheating: 1.
Yah, who is the dirtbag here? Us ruin the server by cheating? Please you friggin hypocrite. Seriously Valgrim, fact is, you can't take the moral high ground anymore, because you are just as bad as every scumbag exploiter/radar user that has ever been banned. It's just too bad that Mythic lets scumbags like you back after a short period of time. It must be soothing to make unfounded accusations about people cheating to assuage your ego, but yah, seriously, these guys are ruining your gaming experience. Just imagine what your bullshit untrue accusations are doing to theirs. Just take a step back and realize that your public slander of them for your own personal benefit may hurt their gaming experience as well. Well, actually, speaking for myself, it doesn't bother me much, considering I don't take the accusations of an alcoholic mental case hypocrite, who cries foul every time he loses, very seriously. I've got a thicker skin than some though.
One day maybe I will understand the logic that states that if you personally dislike someone and lose a fight or two to them, they must be cheating. Until I reach that pinnacle of logical reasoning, I'll stick to being a coherent and mentally stable human being.
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"They were spotted long before they got close to rezzing you. Are you honestly saying Hibernia does not keep stealthed watchers and patrols in areas the enemy is?"
No apparently not but because Midgard does we are cheaters and overpowered
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Heh, just like you buffbot Aislyne because I buffed ya while I was in Bled. You're a stealther with shammy buffs, so by this same train of logic you're a botter.
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And at this moment in time Midgard is not overpowered damnu!!!
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I didn't say anything about you Zentropa, or Carch your other realm hopping bud...nobody knows who I am talking about. This post is about tonight, and what I saw tonight, and who I know was using radar. Do you see your name in this post? No I don't think you do, so shut your goddamn mouth.
And Skegg...OOOH was waiting for this, I was banned for a BUG in the game that was NOT intended, that I relogged and appealed myself for.
That's a far cry from purposefully using a 3rd party program to maphack....and you weren't there either. You too can also shut your goddamn mouth. I know you like to use that against me every chance you get but it just doesn't work fatty =)
Plain and simple folks...you already have it easy, yet you still feel the need to cheat. It's not my problem that you are a realm hopping little bastard who just wants to be on the winning team, and the same goes for your friends.. that is another discussion.
It IS my problem though when I see people blatantly cheating, I have been around longer than any of you, how many times have you seen me accuse anyone of cheating? I will tell you how many times mofo...ONCE. And guess what happened to the people I "accused"? If you are not part of it STAY OUT OF IT.
If I think you are a cheating bastard on top of a realm hopper I will SAY IT TO YOUR FACE, until then you do not speak to me.
I don't accuse, and I would not say anything if it wasn't true...don't forget you were a Hib a month ago you scum, and you would defend us now as you are them. This is not an accusation, this is the truth.
I'm ashamed of you and sorry I ever called you a friend, you really have no clue about friendship, honor, trust, loyalty...or anything else normal and true people base friendships on. You belong in Midgard.
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Let us take a look at what you said, because you did in fact mention my guild, Cold Conscience... which inclues myself, zentropa, and skeggjold.
>>But no, you HAVE to win every time. There are a couple groups from Mid..one consisting mostly of ex hibs that NOBODY even wants to fight. I know this group uses radar too<<
It is quite clear... you accused my guild, and by extension myself, of cheating.
Edit: And this is really rich...
>>It IS my problem though when I see people blatantly cheating, I have been around longer than any of you, <<
I was 50 on my Blademaster in December of 2001... long before you (were you even PLAYING the game at this time?). Sorry Valgrim... I know for a fact that myself and Skeggjold have been around this game, THIS SERVER, longer than you have.
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hey valgrim you where at fensalir when we took it back and you died is that cheating aswell?? it must be since you died and you cant die without anyone cheating right??
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Never mentioned your guild Carch...still have no clue who the hell you are or who your guild is. Try to read sometime before you flame....ooh wait a minute, you just automatically assumed when I said EX HIBS THAT CHEAT you thought I was talking about you??
Why would you think that?
Never saw you, never knew you..don't want to. I'd appreciate it if you stayed out of my conversations too son.
And Klant yeah that funny *makes jerking off motions* I was there with about 4 hibs that were awake. Because we are Americans and we play on the proper server, we get tired.
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BTW Nice screenshot...proves my point further, you sound like Albs sitting at the PK waiting for SoS and BoF man. Sad.
"Is Ichor up???" OMG RADAR USER ISNT ON MUST HAVE ICHOR AT LEAST! CANT WIN WITHOUT INSTA STUN MEZ INTERRUPT ROOT UBER DUPER SPELL!
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I'm sorry Valgrim, you do mean us. There is no other conclusion. What other Midgard Gank guild is primarily ex-hibs or long time Mids that tried hib for a short while? Which Midgard Gank guild do many Hibernians admit being intimidated by? I'm not trying to brag here Valgrim but it is quite apparent EXACTLY who you mean. Or, perhaps, you could try to be less vague in your statements (but that isn't any fun is it, you'd rather try your old gimmick of making a general accusation that could be directed towards any number of people, and when they all defend themselves you yell, "GUILTY!").
If it isn't us, please, point me to a Mid gank squad that is mostly people who have played Hibernia on the Percival server?? Must know a few more guilds than I do.
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>>BTW Nice screenshot...proves my point further, you sound like Albs sitting at the PK waiting for SoS and BoF man. Sad.
"Is Ichor up???" OMG RADAR USER ISNT ON MUST HAVE ICHOR AT LEAST! CANT WIN WITHOUT INSTA STUN MEZ INTERRUPT ROOT UBER DUPER SPELL!<<
Valgrim, we never sit in any PK or hide ANYWHERE waiting for abilities to come back up. You know though, it is sound strategy to know EXACTLY what abilities are up, and those that are down (and to modify your battle strategy accordingly). You know, it is little things like that that lead to big things like this:
http://www.theforumisdown.com/uploadfiles/0103/DeadHibs2.jpg
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You can appeal, but how can you really tell the difference between luck, skill and cheating? It's just not possible to be 100% sure, and it's really uncalled for to trash their names when you don't know for certain.
Appeal, move on.
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Maybe it is your guild....but it isn't you. I don't know who you are....I think you are just the dumb guy that /laughs at everyone.
Thats a shitty rep to have anywhere...sorry I don't know anything about you and I was never talking to you, and I never will you mouthy little untrustworthy traitorous betraying prick =)
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I /hug, I don't laugh... not even for you .
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"Because we are Americans and we play on the proper server, we get tired."
sorry to break it to you but there where 4 swedes there no more
are you playing on "the proper server" ?? doesnt look like it why dont you play on andred or something i hear they need cry babies like you who cant lose without the other side cheating
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"There's one thing I've learned... Valgrim doesn't post bullshit. I mean... while he's sober. Not that he is all that often... "
Imagine that line being used in a courtroom ... hahaha!!!
And Skegg, I read that one sentence as "sausage your ego". 
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LOL I know I never ran into you then cause every Mid likes to laugh at me and slap me.
You are full of shit...you cut the text out of your last SS because it was all ichor questions and Hib abuse!
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>>You are full of shit...you cut the text out of your last SS because it was all ichor questions and Hib abuse!<<
At this point... I have trouble believing you actually mean this. Down a few more alcoholic beverages and call it a day Valgrim.
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<First, let's start with Vilna, Stara, Warfield, Sprakj, and the whole guild of Cold Conscience. Valgrim accuses all of them of cheating in this post. >
I wish Cold Concience cheated. I'd feel better about never beating them. Unfortunately they're just better than me. Bastards.
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Klant...I don't even know how to respond to you, I've decided it's not worth it. At least this other guy makes an argument...
You however I am I just going to say shut up and let the adults talk.
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Takes a peek at "World of Valgrim"
Psycho alright..
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then why do you talk? anyone more childish as you is very hard to find
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Valgrim, your reply only proves one other thing about you to me. Not only are you a known cheater (banned) and hypocrite, but you are a coward as well. Sure, you LOVE to make these outlandish slandering statements against others (everyone always knows who you are talking about, you make sure of that don't you? There is only one guild in mid that has more than one ex-hib) to hurt their reputations and soothe your shattered ego. Yet, when they call you on it and thrash you for it, you back out of it with the pathetic, "you don't know who I'm talking about!". Why so scared to stand behind your statement's Valgrim? Because you know they are full of hot air? Because you know that you create them to make yourself feel better and to desperately try to persuade others that the people you are slandering are what your distorted perception wants them to be? That is just so sad, you coward.
Face it Valgrim, you are a cheater, a coward, delusional, and a hypocrite. Come on down off that high horse buddy, you don't have the permission of the non-cheating gamers on this server to be up there.
P.S. I would argue with you when you make the statement that you have only ever accused one person of cheating, but everyone on these boards knows it's not true, and I don't want to look through your incoherent post history to prove you wrong.
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Sits on his recliner gets a bowl of popcorn and patiently awaits the post from Valgrim that reads as follows:
AieEee HaCkEDDED ME !!! I DID NOT POST THIS ON ACID!
I Love CC <3!!
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quote <Which patch did Mythic include maphacks again? for some reason I didnt download that one. Oh it was a Midgard only patch, silly me.....
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I can assure you it isn't midgard only that does it.
Personaly can't comment on this situation but I've come accross more than one group that has been OE'ing
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Wallis your full of crap I know what you were accusing people of in IRC and its complete bullshit, learn to suck it up!
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WOW this is the dumbest thing I have ever heard you get owned and yer pissed hmm.In my 2yrs have never heard of this hack imo(but I also don't wanna cheat) but if there is one how would you know?Or you just think they are cheating cuzz u all got rolled?Hmm I have been rolled in the kinda situation before it happens.Cheaters no just smart players who have a strategy on camping corpse's.But accuse away make yourself feel better and make youself look that much dumber.
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3-4 days ago we ran behind CC without them noticing us for 9-10 seconds, so i doubt they are cheating with radar.
When a group is good then they always get the label as cheaters and that is sad. I know Palodox also got the label once in our CG, but i have surprised em a lot in the frontiers which wouldnt be possible with radar.
Only time i have been very suspicious was when "The Most Hated Valkyn" played before. But that is history now, thank god!
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Most hated Valkyn?
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rawr n stuff
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The tendency, sadly, is to never believe you could lose, be out maneuvered, beaten or bested. Most players are guilty of it, often times I am as well.
Just once I'd like to lose a fight and here people say "damn they are good" rather than "overpowered!" or "cheaters!".
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There are other ways of knowing where enemy is besides radar/hacks/cheats.
We've been telling ya for over a year that there are often alot of stealthers out in OG/Jamt. but no one seems to listen.
We followed a Hib group around for a half hour the other night before killing em. We werent using a cheat. We had a stealther at AG, HG and the Y. It wasn't very hard to keep track of them at all.
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New sig quote. That was priceless.
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Gee, thats rich, a known cheater and bug exploiter that was banned accusing others of cheating just because he was killed and lying face down as usual.
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Ahem.. banter!
Oh and btw Dol, I havent been logged on for the last 3 days, let alone grouped much in the last month. Let the hate go.
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Before you start throwing all this all Valgrim, consider the other 7 people who were in that group and also saw the same thing Val did. Sure Val was the one who posted on VN accusing you of cheating, but we all saw it, all knew it. It was more then obvious.
I can understand if you defend your realm mates, but dont defend cheaters.
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It's very simple -- if you think someone cheats -- appeal them. Appeal them every time you log on. Before you go out, even. Eventually Mythic will get 'em.
Want to appeal CC? By my guest. All enemies are welcome to keep our group under constant mythic watch. All Mythic will find is smart driving, good tactics and people who (omg! wtf!) pan the rear.
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Like I said before it's all strategy it's seems I always here whining about they need nerfed cuzz I got owned etc but can you honestly say they where cheating?Can you prove it?If so that must mean you yourself have used this same cheat!!I've never heard of this cheat until today.But if you need to appeal go ahead but be warned if they didn't cheat you all in those grps who got whiped will look stupid.But if your right I will apologize.
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I dont think anyone from CC was there last night, Mishi. I have fought against your guild many times. Always good fights. We have no reason to appeal you, this thread had nothing to do with CC.
Oh well, these threads always get twisted in the end.
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If you know there's a hack and you know the website etc email it to Mythic let them handle it.Otherwise it's kinda like ice skating uphill
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Ja, Cathaoir, I was responding specifically to Valgrim's charge against my guild. But I think the advice applies to anyone who wants to make a cheating accusation on VN.
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OMG MIDS ARE OVERPOWERED!!! Proof below!!!
Top 5 this week, look at the Mid domination:
1) Grifon
Palodox
50th lvl Celt Bard
RP: 303,078
2) Sabinne (50th lvl Elf Enchantress) [Palodox] 289,641
3) Tokkie Nasayume (50th lvl Elf Enchanter) [Palodox] 288,979
4) Monigi Syii (50th lvl Lurikeen Ranger) [Palodox] 277,159
5) Tatch (50th lvl Celt Druid) [Palodox] 252,466
Lets compare realms:
GRP earned last week:
ALBION: 14,928,680 (37.66% of total)
HIBERNIA: 12,942,093 (32.65% of total)
MIDGARD: 11,772,951 (29.70% of total)
Guilds for this week, note that HM needs 100 members to generate fewer RPs then 22 Hibs:
1) Palodox
Hibernia
Membership: 22 Chars: 40 <------ 22 members
RP: 1,890,597
2) Hel Maor
Guild roster
Midgard
Membership: 100 Chars: 167 <----100 members
Realm points: 1,426,885
3) Prismatic Order
Guild roster
Hibernia
Membership: 64 Chars: 136
Realm points: 1,150,326
4) Revenge
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Albion
Membership: 75 Chars: 125
Realm points: 1,094,063
5) Valiant Glory
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Albion
Membership: 22 Chars: 24 <---- 22 Members
Realm points: 1,087,700
Wankers
Maybe concentrate on getting your relics back and not pharming Arpees and you'd feel better about yourselves. Until then stfu please.
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when will you complete and total morons realize why hibs have TONS of realm points and PLEASE don't use rp as a basis to decide overpowered or not
news flash you all ready?
you get a BONUS FOR DEFENDING YOUR FRONTIER!!!!
all those mids/albs in emain=LOTS of rp for hibs
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I'm pretty sure Vilna, Stara and Sprakj and crew don't cheat. About all I see here is a Hib group was spotted, scouted and their friends watched as well and were killed as they should have been and Hibernia doesn't seem to understand the concept of scouting.
You're as predictable as anything, if you honestly think your little back up groups would have gone unnoticed than you need to rethink things a bit. You were seen in OG, your numbers were known, your group died it's pretty easy to figure out that the others are coming that way. A little scouting, a little reporting and the group moving at speed makes for an easy find.
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All of this comes down to reuptation. People with sane minds and reputations to lose would never post baseless slander like this, because it would mean people would start questioning their judgement and their honor. We already know Valgrim has neither. Valgrim's paranoid schizophrenia and his status as something of a server-wide train-wreck make him the perfect person to launch sweeping accusations against people. What has he got to lose?
I drive Cold Conscience about a third of the time (my specialty is Albion) so I take cheating accusations pretty personally, Valgrim. Don't even try that "I didn't mention you by name, you must be guilty" crap; the backhanded reference to our guild was there for the whole world to see. Your motives are as transparent as plexiglass, Valgrim. You lose constantly to us (and most everyone else), even when you get the jump, so in a pathetic effort to save your ego, you have to rationalize. "It was their overpowerdness," or "They are cheating." You never once entertain the notion that, perhaps, its your ineptness, Valgrim. Never once have I seen you display tactical judgement or any form of skill. Was chasing Thraeingr and I, who were duo, all the way up to the guards at Fensalir, only to die from them, a show of cleverness, or a pathetic attempt to farm people who you despise? (I had Thrae Ichor your group and then run like hell just because we knew it would anger you, you predictable sod) Ah, but we must have been cheating, my mistake. Like Thursday night when your 2 groups got the jump on us outside the MPK in Emain and we still beat you. Nah, had to have been <insert rationalization here>
Though, I should say, your motives in the here and now are transparent. Your overall scheme or driving force is a bit more muddied. You are a grown man living at your parent's home with no job, with a raging case of paranoid schizophrenia and suffering from alcoholism. If you weren't such a consistent jerk, I'd almost feel sorry enough for you to be willing to call the police out there to save you from yourself. But that would deprive the enter Percival community from the entertainment value of the internet equivalent of a man with tourette's on the radio.
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Surry Ariala, didn mean ta make yas cry!
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p.s. It was Guild Relentless with a Hel Maor bard. No cheatin friend Valgrim, just loops around the fallen - ya kep sendin rescues - we kep killin em, that simple - we knew you would return, we got ya at the gate. /salute
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*quote* "All Mythic will find is smart driving, good tactics and people who (omg! wtf!) pan the rear"-Mishi *quote*
Ahhh the times Ah remember panning a certain healer's rear...and cloakless to boot! Ohhh Was dat outloud?
Mouselook is wonderful when you have someone driving who knows his away around the frontier...
--HUSH now that bark was good for you, fiber and all that!--
I myself if not leading a pack will often use mouselook to pan sides and flanks...when running up or along hills adjust camera for proper angle up and down to sides etc...
I can do this easily and have experience doing that. I also cultivate and group young blades and hunters at every opportunity. Why? So I can get intelligence.
I get it (intelligence ye smuts ;P ) all the time. I pass what I deam is good on to alliance or CG.
The TGU's (tatical gank units) Like CC get the full scoop. Wankers might get general info. But all get info. Even groups and guilds who have folks I HATE, get the intelligence. Why? Realm first personal stuff later. Even after a personal falling out with a certain person, I kept my word and provided his alt with promised drops for free...
Warfield is me old GM, I'm the new GM of Champions. Warf is only interested n RVR right now, and he still holds to the Honor and Valor from Below code. If he was with cheaters, it'd be known.
Some folks spent so much of their life in DAOC in their own frontier that they know it intimately.
I have run realm defense, while loaded down with 600 pounds of asterite hinging in Hagall, handling tells from a Rogue group, a hunter group, main cg, asend (alliance). Without loosing a step.
Trick is cede to local leadership for the battles. while that's happening talk to my scouts and other roavers and organize it in my head. Pass out hints, orders, and listen.
Helps to be a damn fast typer, and able to read scrolling text at a fast pace. Having a good short term memory helps.
When one group's spotted ask for ID's first and numbers. From experience we can tell a group threat from names alone by now.
IF a group's seen I'll ask em to shadow and fade if too near. Scouts learn to avoid areas where there's high traffic because other stealthers will gather there, but they still watch them and pass on that info.
Sometimes folks get bad info. Happens.
Sometimes folks bait groups. Happens.
Sometimes you have more then one shadow.
Most know how to read a compass. Most have named known rally points and landmarks and can navigate by them with a few words...
"HIbs 7+pets Running to Vendhill SW Y towards OG valley with speed..."
another scout--
"Two hibbies flanking to GG side to hild valley- in trees no speed"
Add this in a fight near liches at end of GG valley hild side = One group to scout and bait your group to try to let resser and another rez the group you killed...
Tatics and response grows with tools you know and have experience with. Intelligence and knowing how long it takes for folks to get from place to place. Knowing agro ranges and what's agro and what's friendly helps too. You can think on a topside view and react.
To those on the ground who can only silently watch...well that means they see a group designed to be a Tatical gank unit (TGU) react to unseen information and move with a purpose before a reaction can occur by visible means.
Knowing that standing still for any time means any intelligence given on you is more and more solid, and that that will mean you are the hunted vs hunters.
I used to get hard data in HW all the time from an anon source, always on hibbies. When I figured out that the data was coming from areas faster than a stealther could possibly pass to me by phisical means (ie faster then he could get around solo- no one else ever grouped with him or even had ever seen him). I started to get suspicious. Even when the data was hard and solid = names numbers and eventually (last straw) RA status's...
I finally got a glimpse of the said rogue...man he flew while by solo...and he was GREY!!...when I saw he was a lvl 23 SB one dah and anon, the logs, and all info I had went to CSR's...he went on ignore...
He was someone who was cheating, and using others in a vendetta vs the hibbies, and I won't be part of cheating even second handed.
Most middies , egos aside, are all of the same vein. Honor and integrity foremost.
I've caught my share of ebayers, scammers, and cheaters and have a 7 of 8 success rate on their removal from our gaming environment.
Who and what, when where and how... not important.
What is important is to consider many factors.
And one thing to test for maphax, radar users etc.
Is the chain stealth unstealth tricks...with a stealthed observer...requires high ground, suspect teams, and many many high stealth individuals, and a TS capeable team to sweep area first to be sure there are no enemy stealthers about to make the test invalid.
But one test alone doesn't prove anything.
It's controled testing. Controlled area. Controlled situations. And frankly RVR areas are nearly impossible to set this up.
But you can try. But first you must control the area.
Consider that many middies have alts camped all over the frontier and most with stealth (since many feel that they are now gimped hard and only good for scouting). With a few seconds warning the can be up and scouting, once data's in, switch back and join a team to attack. Some have alts one two accounts, normally where they only had their bots for buffing. Since the mains on main account aren't viable- they make alts on the other account they can play also and have SCout-BOTS of all things...
Now this is a long post- of course.
And should effectively kill the thread.
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/e mourns for the brave 1's and 0's who laid down their lives so that this thread might exist.
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*sighs* I just wish I could find a reason to respect Midgard... I mean this has nothing to do with the cheating accusations... but look at the typical Midgard answers... sheesh... bunch of idiots all gathered under one realm ?
But thats generalizing and I shouldn't do it. I know there ought to be some nice Mids, just that sadly they aren't very vocal 
Thus why I keep on saying Albs are much nicer ! *huggles Grieffina, Patience and Sadra* (Alphabetic order !) *dances with Margie and tickles her ribs*
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Just a question Affek, how are we supposed to respond to allegations that people we know are dishonest cheaters, and then statements that we're so overpowered. Basically, in many respects this was a blatant attack on my realm and I will defend my realm the way I defend its frontier.
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<smile>
- correction, Hel Maor bard was there at the end -
Ariala - I'd hug Valgrim, but he's got a face fer /wave instead =P
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Affek,
Perhaps tis adage may help you in your travels throughout life. "What you sow, so shall you reap."
Want respect from Midgard players. Try offerig them some respect yourself.
Gosh darn those honorless Midgard players who dislike unsubstantiated POS allegations of cheating! How dare they defend themselves?
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let the poor guy cry, whines is all he can do
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Wow you are so smart Affek gah can I be like you I mean it's pretty pathetic you Hibs have to cry everytime you get whipped OMG NERF MIDS THEY OVERPOWERED as far as idiots um you need to be looking in Hib I mean wow you get owned well of course Mids must be cheating.I used to be on Hib Perc but I left cuzz of jerk off's like you.Grow up and take your ass kicking like a man out there in Emain OG or HD.
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Well Cairus, there is a difference between defending and using blatantly poor excuses to defend your realm. *points the post above*
Hibernia has been accuse of cheating, so what, I live with it (Those ninja relic raids). But that guy right above is another example of why I can hardly see myself respecting Midgard. Oh well, good thing I'm supposed to consider you enemies...
EDIT: And also, let's talk quickly about overpowered stuff. How many Midgard class can kill more than one opponent without much of a trouble ? Savages and BDs. How many Hib classes ? Enchanters, but that requires RAs. Albs ? Hrm... necros possibly can but its not a typical scene unless you are in the BGs.
If you are taking each and every accusations by Valgrim seriously, its just sad... I mean you know the guy, how can you even feel concerned by his "accusations" ?
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Well Affek, the major thing is that the guy above is just that, the guy above, he's not me, or the kobold next to me, or the troll running down the road. He's just one person, and we should all know better than to label the whole of a realm, game, or anything based on its participants in the VN forums of all places.
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Thats true Cairus, but most of the Midgardian posts in here are just like that guy. Like I said, people like you are just not vocal enough to make it look like your realm is decent.
And I said it, I shouldn't generalize, but I don't have any hints indicating me that I'm wrong on a general basis.
Look at Dengar's posts, at least he uses REAL words and makes sense. Sure he insults Valgrim and all, but heck at least he shows he has a brain. Just get more people like him to post here and Hibs/Albs wouldn't feel like I do.
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Affek: If we learned anything from the Rayn/Crystalyn debacle, its that VN board witch hunts, if not properly squealched in their infancy, can and will result in in-game bannings. If the accused don't bother to defend themselves, even if the accusations are being flung like feces from Valgrim the Down's Syndrome Monkey, then the accusations pick up steam and can bite the accused in the ass later down the road.
And, believe me, I'm probably more mortified and upset that Midgard is indeed overrun with doods than any Hibernian or Alb. You only have to deal with them on VN; I've got to talk to them
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"EDIT: And also, let's talk quickly about overpowered stuff. How many Midgard class can kill more than one opponent without much of a trouble ? Savages and BDs. How many Hib classes ? Enchanters, but that requires RAs. Albs ? Hrm... necros possibly can but its not a typical scene unless you are in the BGs. "
Do you play a savage? Or is this another "I got killed by one once, and that just cant happen" post? How many BD's and Savages are there in Perci Mid? My god man, you think anyone cares if you respect them after you post such illogical crap? This is a game, like any other, if you dont like dying (in game) play something a little milder. Just spare us your baseless accusations on "uber" classes until you actually can back them up with proof.
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I know Dengar, and I can but only feel bad for you. Heck I had to live something similar to what you live daily, with the /level 30 thingy. Luckily its gone now... *breaths more easily* it was truly awful...
And, just about any in-game related discussions on the VNs is and will get out of control. Because this is the VNs, its all about flaming when its about the game.
Only moment you dont have flaming is when you post IC stories and when you flirt the enemy ! *swoons at the Triumvirate of Clerics* At least I have a reason to come back here daily (VNs), its to see if those cuddly clerics have something nice to say today. 
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I dont know the numbers, thats true. But I constantly get killed from full health before I can even get my quickcasted stun in. See a problem here ? I do.
Do I play a savage ? No, but I did played my friend's savage on Guinevere (50th one) and while I dont have as much experience as someone who did level 1-50 with one, I can tell you I'm aware of how lethal they can be.
BDs are borderline, just like necros. Because they are mainly strong in PvE, and sometimes good in PvP. Depends more on their RAs, which makes sense if they are strong at high RR. But a savage with 1 RP (level 50 one) will still down me quickly.
Admit it or not, its not my problem. I do admit chanters need some tuning, so you can't accuse me of not looking in my realm.
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Savages are mostly about luck of the draw and their self buffs. 1 on 1 a savage is a killer, in a group fight they become far less significant. Without their self buffs they aren't too bad but it is those buffs that make them truly killers. They are killers til they run out, but then if no healer is quick to back 'em up they're quick RP's.
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TYpical midgard responses...
HUH?
what happened to my post above?
Is more den a couple paragraphs too much fer some to read?
Should I dumb down my posts some?
I've plenty of examples to make a common denominator baseline for posting.
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Well... there is one side of me that is depressed how easy it is to get DAOC Unleashed. 20 bucks to register it and you get updates, plugins, forum support, etc. <sighs>
Then there is the other side of me. I dont care much about Stara and them, they are always a good fight. Cold Conscious can pretty much beat any group straight on, they wouldnt have to use radar unless it was to avoid the 3+ groups looking to zerg them.
Anyway... I'm not as naive as I used to be and I think there are a whole lot of people that use radar. But of the gank groups, I feel comfortable with the ones we fight because they are all pretty much head on fights, may the best group win.
I guess what I'm trying to say, the radar problem hasnt effected me enough to where I feel like making a whine post about it. For the most part, I know when we lose it was just a break down on our part and good play by theirs.
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I am pretty sure Vilna and Stara dont use it, because our group T-boned them twice a couple nights ago. Vilna was driving.
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"sighs* I just wish I could find a reason to respect Midgard... I mean this has nothing to do with the cheating accusations... but look at the typical Midgard answers... sheesh... bunch of idiots all gathered under one realm ?"
can you find me one reason to respect hiberia?? beacuse i sure as hell cant
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quote <Wallis your full of crap I know what you were accusing people of in IRC and its complete bullshit, learn to suck it up! >
Where is a mod when you need one, all this childish swearing getting a little tiresome to be honest. As for my accusations, they were never answered in IRC apart from "shut the hell up idiot". Which isn't realy explaining why those events happened which just made me more curious. Instead half of the group suddenly joins irc and launches fragrent insults at me, yer real mature. And it wasn't even me who died for your information I just watched it happen all glorious technicolour
But unlike some hib idiots I don't spam the names on VN's trying to grab attnetion to half the server that I think someone is cheating just about 20 people who happened to be in IRC when the event occoured, I appealed and talked to a CSR and moved on. You don't see me talking much about it in IRC now infact I couldn't care less after the CSR has been passed the information that /I/ had seen I will let him sort it out rather than launch lensarian campaign against people that I think could be cheating.
I say once again if you think people are cheating LEAVE IT IN THE DAMN GAME fer crying out loud posting it like this just makes you look a complete fool and attention whore (as if we didn't know that already).
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cry more mullet head
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actually walliss Yiliwyr was there in my group this morning in fact he was driving <smiles>
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Quiet you, before i get what ever her name was, who was using the matrix to steal your cd to steal it again!
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quote <actually walliss Yiliwyr was there in my group this morning in fact he was driving <smiles> >
And?
Doesn't realy change anything I was posting about now does it.
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I never said I had reasons for you to respect Hibernia, I don't have any to respect Midgard. But the thing is, I have reasons NOT to respect Midgard... do you have reasons not to respect Hibernia ?
If so, *claps*, enjoy the game, do what you want. And don't be too loud, you'll end up making people like Dengar go nuts and that wouldn't be good for your realm.
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Well, I seem to remember some major arrogance from quite a few hibs back when 1.62 was coming about. So really, by the same logic I easily have reasons to not respect Hibernia, fortunately I'm not quite so shallow.
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Well, there's Dengar "ha-ha, I'm silly-angry" nuts and there's Valgrim "RIVER OF LAMB'S BLOOD, AIE HAX, DEVIL INSIDE ME!!!!" nuts.
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Is it me or can you feel a sick sadistic love triangle forming by the three ranters, Affek, Valgrim and Dengar.
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<<Affek: If we learned anything from the Rayn/Crystalyn debacle, its that VN board witch hunts, if not properly squealched in their infancy, can and will result in in-game bannings.>>
Well, there was that tiny fact that they were in fact guilty, Dengar. That probably had more to do with their banning than VN.
Valgrim, if you think they're guilty, /appeal them and move on.
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Hrm, if only me and Dengar would be ranting, I'd agree... sadly it's not the case so... no I can't see it... can you ?
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Hmm ok Valgrim, we cheated to find you in front of a keep with guards on you, then cheated again to run circles around your bodies until more groups came to rez. But hey at least we didnt nuke you through an invisible wall
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I knew it ! He admits cheating !
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"EDIT: And also, let's talk quickly about overpowered stuff. How many Midgard class can kill more than one opponent without much of a trouble ? Savages and BDs. How many Hib classes ? Enchanters, but that requires RAs. Albs ? Hrm... necros possibly can but its not a typical scene unless you are in the BGs. "
^^^ Affek ranting or at the very least whining, suck it up bud, just because you lose as a hibernian doesn't mean that mid is overpowered.
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Hrm, first off, don't call me "bud".
Secondly, there was someone talking about how we call Mids overpowered and I simply detailed why they are considered so.
The joy of anon posting, uh ?
EDIT: Oh yeah, and no I'm not always losing against Mids... I'd say its pretty fair fights most of the time. Midgard as a whole isn't overpowered, but they have some classes that needs to be tweaked down. Same for Hibernia... and Albion hrm... well... *shrugs* apparently not.
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Isn't Valgrim the dude that was making all the posts about CD cases and cops at his house and butcher knives and stuff?
Or is that the wrong guy?
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Affek-
Mids can make the same tired "class is overpowered" arguement with chanters...or BoF...or BaoD...or reasons to not respect realms based on people who post here. It's in all 3 realms. You just happen to have your eye focused on Midgard for some reason. You don't think there are some in Midgard who think certain Hibs cheat based on what they see? They probably aren't (im not accusing ANYONE), but when you lose its the easy answer instead of admitting they are good.
Live on the other side of the fence, in Midgard, and you'll hear the same things you do in Hibernia about Midgard, only vice versa with the classes and names changed.
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I'm well aware of that, and if there *is* actually a way to cheat the game, there is obviously people on all three realms using it.
My point was, seeing some of Midgard's answers on this thread (And sadly its a high ratio), I feel bad for those in Midgard that are nice people. I mean, being told to "stfu" doesn't appeals respect to me.
I know chanters need tuning down, but you can't deny savages need some tuning down just like I can't deny mana chanters need tuning down.
And I also said I don't always lose to Midgard, in fact its mostly 50% 50%, depending on numbers and all. But on even number fights it is roughly 50% 50% unless its like a bunch of low RRs vs. high RRs but bah ... in other words Midgard as a whole is fine. Just tweaking stuff.
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Wow u r real a piece of work Aff I mean Dengar oh well we piss him off I dont care really I mean u complain about Mid's making excuse's but u wont make any statement about Hib's making excuse's WOW even some Albs telling u that yer a idiot hmm ALbs hate us goes to show u that u r the dumbass.
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Hooked On Phonics and Comprehendability Classes worked for Diakar!
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At work kinda rushing threw things 8)
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I'm well aware of that, and if there *is* actually a way to cheat the game, there is obviously people on all three realms using it.
But yet you all go after Midgard WOW stfu and go play another game and just let it go.This is a lost cause no one will win in the end.(Unless u have the link to this so called cheat send it to Mythic to deal with)
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Ok, quick question to Midgard... do you support that kind of guy ? (*points the post above and his previous replies on this thread)
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To Valgrim: Where am i defending anyone in saying that all 3 realms have cheaters, and then branching off and expressing more whines. Hey but saying all 3 realms instead of directing it at one paticular realm must mean i was being defensive in some vague way.
All i did was expand your rant. If you can accuse people of cheating why cant i
I mean you do know that people cheat in every realm. Its the nature of online multiplayer games. There will always eventualy be cheatrs, but me stating that all 3 realms have cheaters is obviously defending someone. Cause we all know admiting that people cheat (not specific people cause as i stated i havnt a clue who does) is being defensive. Yup *nods to self*.
I put all 3 realms in each o those statements for a reason.
Because i know we all have our problems and we all have our bonuses.
Hey but trying to be fair and stating that all 3 realms suffer from the same general problems must mean im biased towards one specific realm. Thus making me an idiot for understanding that we all have our share of pretty much the same problems.
In the future i'll remember that when specific people from a specific realm are being accused of something. That it will be wrong to state that it occurs in all 3 realms.
/slaps valgrim (maybe i should have /waved to you instead in the first post so you didnt take it so personaly. I was obviously directing it at you in a cold hearted mean manner.)
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I actually had a question about one of your groups the other day. Sadly that group had an old friend of mine in it and it was how it avoided the zerg that caused me the most consternation. It was not only me that questioned it either and that kinda made me sad.
In the end, I thought about who was running the groups and just decided that things cannot always be explained nor do they have to be explained. I do not think they would ever cheat because if they did and even one of them got banned, the lot of them would be laughed off the server and everything they had accomplished would be tainted.
I question their ability to be far and away better than others because even though they did fairly well in Hib, they will admit to you it is far easier in Mid. I question their heart to play against the same odds/abilities they watch others play against time and again. They will also admit to you that they too question it, if they are honest. I do not question the majority of their guilds integrity now nor do I question their teamwork.
In the end, you have good players and a great vehicle to showcase the talent. I doubt seriously they need a crutch like radar. Appeal it and move on.
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You know what's sad... Skegg/Skagg used to be one of the few Mids I had an ounce of respect for.
*Shrugs* Used to be.
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Ladies and Gentlemen...
Posts like these is a perfect example of why you should not do drugs.
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Haha - Sprak pointed out a funny - should say skald, hehe - must have that Ariala on the brain =P
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LOL
Dengar we ran up to Fens because I told them to, to kill you....because you annoy me. We did kill you, I don't care if my whole group dies to kill you it is worth it, every other hib agrees.
You are an insecure little man who likes to impress people with your dictionary and internet bravado. I am not like you, I don't expect someone like you to understand someone like me ever.
You are the little brother I never had and never got to beat up. Life will pass you by and you will still be sitting here wishing someone like me was around to argue with. I won't be here though =( I'm sorry.
That being said, I respect your intelligence and out of every Mid here I only really read what you have to say. Some of it makes sense, some of it is just personal insults directed to me. You know me more than you want to admit, and you know I am not a drug crazed paranoid schizo.
That's fine being insulted by you or anyone really doesn't affect me. That is why I am the one who is not afraid to speak.
This post was only made because I don't know who was cheating, but I know someone in that group was. I do not accuse people of anything that I have not personally witnessed.
YOU were not there, CC was not there...you have no say. And yes VN witch hunts do get something done, why do you think I am posting? It worked before and it will again. I'm hunting real witches though who ruin the game for everyone else.
And Skegg, jesus christ get over it. You have one defense you use against me every time. Yes I was banned 1 day for a BUG caused my Mythic, keeps didn't load I could walk through walls. A BUG that I appealed myself for and relogged to fix, how you think that is on any level as severe as DELIBERATELY CHEATING I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND!
I have only one thing to say to the "accused". If I was accused of cheating in any form and I was innocent, I would completely ignore you or I would say something like "believe what you want". The reason I would do this IS BECAUSE I WOULD KNOW THAT I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.
All you have shown me here is that you DO have something to worry about. No one defends themselves so vigorously if they are innocent you damn fools. Read this thread it proves everything. You wouldn't even care what I have to say if you have done nothing wrong.
You have incriminated yourself already more than I ever could, I hope you get that Mythic email soon.
And for the record no I am not on drugs, I don't do drugs, and I am not a schizo. I'm just some guy playing a game that hates little punkass coward geeks who cheat to win and doesn't remain silent about it. Only punkass geeks know how to hack a computer and I don't.
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Don't know who cheats and who doesn't but it seems that some people need help.
There: in or at that place <stand over there>
Their: of or relating to them or themselves especially as possessors, agents, or objects of an action <their furniture> <their verses> <their being seen>
They're: : they are <They're just stupid mids>
Were: past second singular, past plural or past subjunctive of BE <we were in Emain>
Where: at, in, or to what place <where is the house>
See, not hard to discern the difference is it. Class dismissed.
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"Dengar we ran up to Fens because I told them to, to kill you....because you annoy me. We did kill you, I don't care if my whole group dies to kill you it is worth it, every other hib agrees."
If anything that actually is more a display that Dengar is doing his job in fighting you hibs quite well. If you're willing to die on keep guards just to kill one person, that's one hell of a job in flattery Valgrim, I'm impressed you'd compliment your enemy so well.
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Okay, this is how we're going to do this.
Mid-You're friggen over-powered you know it shut the hell up don't even try to defend yourselfs.
Deevila and all the Chanters out there=We're the FOTM class. USE IT!! ABOUT TIME WE ROCK!
Valgrim-Don't sit here and waste your time trying to explain yourself! After all, these are people who don't want to understand or they do understand but they have some bug up their ass about it and have to have a hissy...Like a girl!
I can't even read the all the posts this is gay take it out in Emain that's what it's for. I'll take any of you on I don't care it's a GAME.
We all have our problems..
Hib-We die, we get irritated, we log and don't try again but we're doing better yay for us =)
Mid-You don't know when to friggen quit do you? Let's get 70 damn mids when we know there's only 20 hibs out here. Ya real cool. That's like me getting a a suped up car to race against a guy on a God Damn bike!
You want to get 70 mids out to play and you like RvR'ing and crap like that? Fine! We have no relics what's the point?
Alb-Same thing 50 Albs 20 Hibs....
No personal attacks, please
Let's everyone pull our head out of our ass and act like real friggen adults!
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I compliment anyone worthy of it. I respect Dengar for his unwaivering dedication to his realm and his "normally" sensible posts here on VN. Others in this thread don't even come close and deserve much worse than anything I could throw at them.
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That's the one person I won't argue with =)
That reminds me I need to read the rest of this thread someone else told me Sleiskegg was a dick too....prolly shouldn't read it already sickened enough by the rest of you.
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>>DELIBERATELY CHEATING I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND!<<
You saw the keep wasn't there. You killed Leria. You appealed. You relogged.
If you had seen the walls were down, and appealed and relogged, then it would not have been a big deal.
INSTEAD, you cheated. You exploited a glitch to hamstring someone else's fun.
You appealed because you KNEW something was wrong. You were banned because you DID something wrong.
That sounds like deliberate cheating to me, so I guess you DO understand.
>>I don't know who was cheating,<<
No kidding.
>>I know someone in that group was. I do not accuse people of anything that I have not personally witnessed.<<
Hmm, it seems to me that radar programs are kind of hard to prove. I mean, it's not like someone walks up and INTO wall, and then proceeds to execute a defender through the wall. Nothing obvious like that.
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Sleiskegg, lol, you're a d***. I hope I see you walking down the street one day would love to /slap the /laugh at you then see how you like it.
Let's everyone pull our head out of our ass and act like real friggen adults!
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Hmm act like adults and then previously post a line like this? You have issues, on of is a reality check. For all you know Sleiskegg might be mr.magila gorrilla and whoop your arse for such an afront in public IRL.
Second that's an obvious threat confusing in game behavior with real life behaviour. Your threat is that, no matter how you couch it...even if you use the "What if" or "if I could" But nope, you use the "I HOPE" meaning intent and desire and the capeability to act on such a threat...
Bye bye...
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No Sanger...appealed and relogged HOURS before I killed Leria. If it ever happens to you it's rather hard to tell where exactly the keep walls are when they don't exist at all. Anyhow yeah I did kill her, it was funny as hell. It didn't impact her gaming experience much and has never happened before or after. What I mean by deliberate I guess is little bastards who download and according to Hazell PAY for a program to allow them to cheat.
Did I purposefully cause the bug that I got banned for? Did I want it? Did I know it was going to happen? Did I do it to win? Did it ruin the game? The answer to all those questions is no, you have no argument here.
And Deevila is a 19 year old girl I don't think she wants to fight whats his name bud...you are taking things way too far here.
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BTW every time I want to beat someone up I go up to them and speak out the words "slash slap! slash laugh!" before I kick their ass.
You idiot.
Wish I could /slap you when she slaps him and /laugh at you both.
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hahaha...i was just watching Valgrims other post. and all i can find is that Valgrim is a crying looser. from now on i will never /laugh at Valgrim again, i will SPAWN /laugh :-)
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You do know keeps have walls, right?
You appealed the problem, so you knew something was amiss.
From your statement you apparently played for hours with this bug. ("...appealed and relogged HOURS before...")
Knowing something was amiss.
You then killed Leria using the glitch.
The glitch didn't force you to take advantage of the situation and kill Leria.
You DELIBERATELY exploited the glitch.
You think it was funny, and it didn't negatively impact her experience 'much'.
So apparently you think using a glitch to hurt someone else's game experience is funny.
You are a cheater of opportunity. You didn't seek the glitch, you didn't pay for it, but given the chance, apparently an opportunity to cheat was just TOO funny to pass up, eh?
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"And Skegg, jesus christ get over it."
Wow Valgrim. Reread all your posts about me being a realm hopper switch your name for Skegg in the above statement and repeat it to yourself, it's getting old. Getting a taste of your own medicine really sucks doesn't it?
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I do think some people cheat. I think it's also spread across all three realms. I've fought battles with on group and then another has come right down on us afterwards too many times for it to be coincidence. luckily, i dont really pay attention to the names or such. i dont really care. you either deal with it or you dont play at all.
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look, i'm too tired, and dont have enough patience to read all these, but here's the way i saw it; i was in one of those groups that sprakj murdered, we were running around, and all of a sudden his group came up right behind us, as we were running, and got us all. Way i hear it they got valg's group in the back to. They ran off after they killed us, came back and regened end, then out of the blue, sat up, and sprinted over, and got valg's group, as i said, in the back. I'm not gonna call anyone a hacker, cause that wont do anything, but if you werent, all i can say is hats off to you, for the incredible luck, or scouting, or whatever. as for midgard being overpowered, well, being a druid i dont notice it much, i have a feeling that they're harder than albs, but the only thing i'm ticked about is how often savages kill me, and that they're always on me within two minutes of my logging in DF. But besides that, why waste breath
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I can see it now, The new DAOC Reality Show!
You people could make me millions =D
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Alright, i got bored, read a little more, and now i'm sick. Being part of that pretty convincing looking hacked gank, i thought maybe this thread would be nice cause it'd talk about it, but its been so mutilated with old vendetta's, i mean, let it go, you play too much, you're getting cranky. Now i'm finally convinced, this site is evil, and most of the people who've posted on it are possesed by the devil. I'm taking this site off my favs, goodbye.
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Brodder..all I have to say is...LOL
Ya I have issues..<laughs> Least I man up to it!
What about you "man"?
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Shut up Val you whiney arsed hib, they did nerf mid you tool of a shroom head-addict
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I think Valgrim is over reacting about this particular incident.
But before I quit this game, I'm going to do like that NS and sit out in Emain with my Infil and see who uses it.
Anyways, there's a billion places to get it. This place even gives tech support 
http://xunleashed.dyndns.org:81/forum/sitenews.asp
I try not to think about it, but I know a lot of people run it. It sucks and I will probably go back to Diablo 2 when 1.10 patch is finally out and play the ladder server.
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Valgrim over reacting? No way!
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So much anger, you need a hug don't you Valgrim?
Or maybe you need some exlax, that might loosen you up.
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Nah not really angry at all, it just gets damn boring at 3 AM in Iowa. Also I hate weak people.
Edit: And Skeggold
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>>They ran off after they killed us, came back and regened end, then out of the blue, sat up, and sprinted over, and got valg's group, as i said, in the back.<<
Hmm. Sounds like you had them under pretty tight observation. I mean, your scout saw them sitting down, suddenly stand up, and sprint right over to your pal. Whom they attacked from behind.
The part I'm having trouble understanding is, with all this detailed infromatin, how did Valgrim manage to get attacked from behind. Were you sharing scouting reports?
Or do I misunderstand? Is the real truth of the matter, you did NOT have them under observation, and therefore you're merely only guessing?
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Yeah we were all in the same chat, everyone saw the same thing. I'm the one who comes here and speaks up about it because I don't give two [BLEEP]s what you sad little freaks think about me or say about me.
Also it's impossible for me to know exactly who is using the radar program so I just have to post here and paint you all with the same brush..
If you are with them though you know, and are just as guilty in my book.
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Well, if you were in the same chat, and your scout saw them off-screen and reported theu were incoming ... how did they still manage to hit you from behind?
Just curious.
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Gotta love anon posters... I sure wish I could find out who it is... would make me laugh a good bit
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Sakov I died first, my group, then another then another, each was watched by me then again we ran to ensure my suspicions...gah forget it read the post..ALL OF IT! It's entertaining anyway, but after reading it you might know WTF you are talking about and then you will be able to post a valid opinion, or just stop talking like you should anyway since you are not involved.
The 2nd time was a test to make sure they were cheating...the 3rd time will be a CSR doing the same thing. Actually it will be the 4th time since they did the same thing to me last night.
I just wanna know who to appeal dammit I asked a simple question..PM me tell me who the cheater is and I'll leave you alone =p
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Uh oh, someone's off his pills again...
Valgrim, I do honestly think your behavoir, particuarly your psychotic episode involving AIE, is typical behavoir of someone with a major mental disorder. Its out of genuine concern for your well being that I call it like I see it; the sooner you admit to yourself you are a raging alchoholic and a mental case, the sooner you can check yourself into the local looney bin and get Nurse Cratchet to administer some sodium pentathol and strap your ass to the electroshock bench. Just be sure to make friends with the big indian guy if you ever want to make your way out of there.
Seriously, though, you are a grown man living at your parent's home in Iowa telling me, an admittedly troubled youth, but one in an excellent college and with a career in the Navy already lined up, that I am a pathetic freak? I'd tell you to look in the mirror, bucko, but your visage would shatter a looking glass into more shards of glass than the results of the bottle throwing at the end of your nightly drinking binge.
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Care of: La La Land
Dear Valgrim,
I called you a cheater of opportunity. not Skeggjold. I responded to exactly what you said.
You cheated. Because you didn't have to buy your cheat you seem to think it's okay.
You're a deliberate cheater.
You're also attempting to be a character assassin by attacking people and their reputations here on the board with empty defamation and ridiculous accusations.
You're a very small little man, and your girlfriend needs to finish high school English.
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Valgrim is currently seeking psychiatric help at my facility....after a few more electroshock treatments and a couple of beatings with the louisville slugger in the basement i think he will be back to normal and good as new....that is all...carry on
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I have absolutely nothing to add so...
ANDRE THE GIANT HAS A POOP SNAKE! 7" .52lbs!?!
http://www.stickergiant.com/Merchant2/imgs/fpoopsnake_450.jpeg
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You know I don't cheat Valgrim. That's precisely why you hate me so much.
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The only people who believe a hacker would hack your PC and then go out of their way to make a bunch of posts on VN is your few fan boys.
You're an idiot and you're a liar. Like you say, just an observation.
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Weird, Valgrim used to be a much cooler cat. Not sure what has happened.
And for the record, I do all the panning and super searching while not leading and often b-line straight towards enemies just barely in clip.
But I have never been accused of radar.
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Come now Castyn, you've never been accused of radar? Not saying you use it, but you've definately been accused of using it.
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I have? Well if I have I sure as hell didn't see it
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It is a true testament to either my honor or lack of killing enough serious RvRers to say that I have NEVER been accused of radar.
I pretty much think it is definitely my measly 650k RPs.
<hopes to get his first "OMG YOU CHEATZOR!?!? post soon>
I would like to ask Skegg though..
Do you know for a fact that noone in your guild uses radar? I mean can you swear that and feel completely confident that you are swearing to the truth?
I am just asking. I am in no way accusing. I would bet serious, serious cash that you and many of the members of your guild would never cheat. I just would not bet that amount on the hypothesis that your whole guild would not. If that is the case then kudos, you have surrounded yourself by good folks straight down the line.
<edit cuz i R gUUD gRAmZr/SPeElR>
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One really great thing about Valgrim---
No matter how bad a week you're having, it could be worse. You could have his mental state.
That much self-hatred is scary.
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/hug valgrim
Ive played here for over a year and have never seen anyone use radar. Although i havent ganked with the 733t skwoddz.
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"Do you know for a fact that noone in your guild uses radar? I mean can you swear that and feel completely confident that you are swearing to the truth?
I am just asking. I am in no way accusing. I would bet serious, serious cash that you and many of the members of your guild would never cheat. I just would not bet that amount on the hypothesis that your whole guild would not. If that is the case then kudos, you have surrounded yourself by good folks straight down the line. "
Well I know you weren't talking to me Bollark but I'll comment anyway.
Personally I would say that I know for 99.9% sure that there was nobody in our guild has ever used Radar.
Now Dol obviously has a giant stick up his ass and loves to spout off every five minutes how some member of our guild uses Radar. See there is one giant problem with dicks like Dol and Valgrim.
They see the 45 seconds where you killed them. That is all. They think that because they are on a zone wall or standing behind some god damn tree in the middle of emain or standing in front of a keep that they are invisible. Then they cry when you happen to patrol past them.
You catch them running down the road toward emain or toward uppland and all of a sudden you are using Radar.
What the morons don't see are the 3 hours you just spent running into every god damn zerg on the server. Or the 3 hours you spent looking for a fight and not finding one. They don't see the countless people your driver misses because they are panned the other way. They don't see all the groups that jump you from behind.
All they see is there little pathetic no skill selves getting owned by people that are better than them. So they cry foul and have to call them cheaters.
I've played with some people I've thought used Radar. They were never from my guild. I've seen suspicious things before but then there are also those incidents where you go, "Well god if they are using Radar how did they let that happen". But, I have never spent an real dedicated time with any of those people to really know for sure.
After spending anywhere from 20-40 days played ganking with my guildmates. I'm damn sure none of them use radar.
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Bollark, an honest question and I know the question wasn't directed towards me but I'll answer.
I'm in Skegg's guild and have played long enough with them to notice if anything fishy does happen. I am 110% positive not a single one of us in the guild cheats, or uses any outside program. When someone is driving, there are 7 other members panning around trying to make sure we don't get jumped or looking for enemies.
I am positive no member of CC cheats.
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quote <I am not out of my mind, I don't do drugs, you just don't like me. I am stronger than you, smarter than you, better looking than you, and more successful than you. I am the person you wish you were. I can understand your strong dislike for me. >
That clinches it, Valgrim is the iraqi information minister ... I swear it.
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No, Valgrim just scared of trolls creepin up on him with de KY.
Dem are beeeeg. 8llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllD
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I'm no prize, but Valgrim saying he looks better than me? Wow, just...wow.
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Well, after reading this thread, a couple of things are bothering me!
1. Thrinae (I think - CC shaman at any rate), how DARE you accuse Hel Maor of cross-realm exploiting! I can personally vouch for the fact that there are ZERO bards in Hel Maor (although we're working on getting a minstrel to switch over so Alb will know what a frost stallion f###ing feels like  ).
2. Bollark - You have about twice the number of RP's that I do, and you killed me in front of Svasud Faste one time. CHEATZOR!
(That make you feel better?)
On a more serious note, the fact that Percival has a higher population than other servers leads me to believe that there will be a higher number of "suspicous" run-ins between groups. Does this mean that the winning group cheated? Or is it merely random chance/good scouting/patrolling spots where enemies are known to rest/rebuff/rally? If you think it's a cheater, then /appeal and move on.
Sad to see anyone whining still about the overpoweredness of "MIDGARD", when in fact we have maybe one class that is better than average (savage) in group RvR and one class that IS godly in solo PvP (supp BD). As a gimpthane, I get tired of being accused of overpoweredness, when I die so quick to anyone who sneezes at me.
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LOL, you guys from Midgard kill me. So all of us Hibs and Albs are a bunch of dumb asses eh? Every single one of us have no clue what so ever, right? Well, not everyone of us, just the majority.
Let me get this straight, the only reason you guys win 99% of your battles or pop up out of no where 99% of the time/ at the right time is all 100% skill on your part?
That is what everyone of you Mids are saying right?
You know, I usually try not to post in these lame ass flame threads because I believe all 3 realms should be left alone. Only thing that needs to be done is take the AOE stun/Mezz out of the game. Without stun or mezz, alot of people would be soooo pathetic. *coughs*Mids*coughs*
In other words, if you live by it, which most of you do... you wouldn't be no where near as succesful as you are, and you know it.
If by chance you use Radar, who ever you are... your one sad sack(This goes for those that know someone using it). Pray no one will ever come up with a way to prove it and call everyone of your lame ass's out. In the mean time, keep on playing the game on easy mode. We all wait and hope for the day Karma sneaks up on you and takes you out without warning.
Your ruining the game for those of us with skill.
Now let this lame ass [BLEEP] end, play the game with what ya got and stop the freakin bickering.
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>>Let me get this straight, the only reason you guys win 99% of your battles or pop up out of no where 99% of the time/ at the right time is all 100% skill on your part? <<
Wow! I win 99% to 100% of my fight!
Whooooo HOOOOO!! W. O. O. T!
I gotta tell everyone else to stop typing /release when we're eating dirt.
Annnnnyway,
Valgrim, I was not really responding to your posts. I was responding to someone who said they were running with you. According to this person's post, they had teh CC group under observation the entire time. Even to the extent of knowing where and when the group sat to recover power. And according to this testimony, they saw th CC group stand up and head off out of clip range towards one of the Hib groups.
What I have trouble understanding is, with this level of intel, how did CC still manage to jump this hib group by surprise? I mean, even if they were running radar, they were spotted coming in. You should of been on alert thankls to the excelent intel work.
Of course, what I believe ACTUALLY happened is that someone is exaggerating. I believe that the CC was, in fact, NOT under observation the entire time. I believe that this other poster (page 5 I believe) pretended to know more about CC's movements than they really did.
But that would not be as convincing an argument for cheating, would it? "The group attacked us, then ran off. A few minutes later they came back and killed another group of Hibs! They MUST of been cheating."
That's not as convincing, is it. Heh.
I've read dozens of these 'they were cheating' threads. And, gol durn it, they are always unconvincing. Every single time the 'proof' could be explained by the presence of a single hidden scout relaying information.
I'm sure people cheat in this game. I hope every single one of them is banned from the game. That does not mean I find this story to be 'proof' of cheating. In fact, I find this example to be about the most feeble claim of cheating, ever.
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That's funny!! So your saying mids are still playing on easy mode after the entire realm got nerfed in 1.62?
Give me and all of Midgard a break. You should stop spewing your worthless comments and quit the game if it makes you so unhappy.
Do you face BOF, SOS, VP, or BAOD everytime you RVR? Or how about chanters and there 7 or so "I-Win" button? Didn't think so.
AE stun gets resisted over half the time. It is no way overpowered. Get some resists!
One more thing. Please appeal us if you think we cheat. Appeal our whole guild or anyone else you lose too.
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Bollark:
I solely drive the guild in both the mid and hib frontiers, when Dengar isn't with us, I drive in the alb frontier as well. So unless Dengar is cheating or people are cheating when I'm not running with the guild (which is almost never), then the driving is all done by me.
I like driving, I enjoy hunting people down fairly. I think everyone here knows my position on cheating. I don't mind being called a realm hopper (even though it gets old after a bit). I don't mind being told constantly that people are disappointed in my decisions or that they lost respect for me. The one thing that does bother me, however, is being called a cheater. I have never cheated and I would never associate in game with a cheater. I would like to think that with the pure amount of times we run into a zerg and with the pure number of times people get the jump on us, it would be obvious that we don't cheat. I find it absolutely appalling that Valgrim would accuse me of cheating, obviously for no other reason than his personal dislike for me. He has no evidence, he doesn't state any incident where I was acting suspiciously. He can't even state HOW I was cheating. He simply calls me a cheater (hell, when I call him on it he won't even admit that he's talking about myself and my friends, though he makes sure everyone who reads it knows exactly who he is refering to). He is just doing this to destroy any reputation I have left in this game, because of his personal hatred for me. Fact is, if anyone here has any suspicions of my cheating, appeal me, appeal me every single time you log on, and appeal me every hour on the hour, get a CSR to come watch me. I welcome it, because I don't cheat.
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<bows>
That is more than enough for me Skegg.
Same to the other Mids that posted..
Cheaters suck but folks like those that posted in answer are why we play the game.
See you out there.
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Skeggjold, I belive I grouped with you once or twice in RvR while you where in hib. I belive we hunted in albion for abit and had a rather good time of it. Now from that experince, I can say without a doubt you didn't "cheat" cause I remember get jumped a few times by albs that day
I would also feel 110% sure in saying Barrtok/Esbjorn, Varfulr/Balaile, Caracaroth and Zentropa never cheated while we were all in hib together and I doubt they cheat in mid. I've been the driver and have followed just about all of them in RvR millions of times and not once saw anything fishy. <to be honest, while I love Barrt like a brother, he's not the best rvr driver :P >
I can say this because I grouped with a few of them on a nightly basis for over a year. And since they've moved to mid I haven't seen one thing to make me think otherwise. If you have proof of them doing something wrong appeal them and let mythic sort it out.
P.S i'm glad you guys are kicking ass in mid, just wish we could have got it working in hib . But no matter, my keen will be out there soon, and i have a whole new bag of tricks for my old friends in mid :P
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<points and laughs at Valgrim>
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Thats ok, always can make the warrior who wants to be a keen anyway? look what it did to poor Finjool ><
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Sanger..I need to finish high school English? Where did that come from?
I have major in english so please.
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"Valgrim, I was not really responding to your posts. I was responding to someone who said they were running with you. According to this person's post, they had teh CC group under observation the entire time. Even to the extent of knowing where and when the group sat to recover power. And according to this testimony, they saw th CC group stand up and head off out of clip range towards one of the Hib groups. "
Ovi thanks for catching that... CC almost *never* sits and regens power, we do it while running. But maybe by the CC group they were talking about a different group that uses crowd control.
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I think he meant to say the Relentless group... to which this thread was originally directed. Valgrim then decided to take pot shots at Cold Consciece... and we (of course) defended ourselves. I think the entire situation has been thoroughly complicated and confused at this point .
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some mids are being VERY VERY VERY obivous about it now a days ... its QUITE QUITE sickening ... folks you know you can only hide from it for so long before folks KNOW you are using it ... I know of 2 mids who no ifs ands or buts ARE using it ... and for sure 1 alb .. I am certain there is more, but some can be explained away .. others though ... its so obvious its disguesting.
Landrovals crew tonight for instance ... WOW .. HOLY mother of GODDESS how friggin obvious can you get ??!?!?!? You are one of those "for sures" by the way.
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>>I have major in english so please.<<
I could nitpick this little sentence to death.
I won't.
Suffice to say: You lose!
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Sanger is a good boy, he wouldn't make fun of innocent people. Right ? And by innocent I mean harmless, not brainless... so don't get me wrong
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Bah, don't try to make me feel bad, Affek!
Just angers the hell out of me to see Valgrim comes here like a tourette's syndrome halfwit, spewing garbage that becomes almost incoherent in his mix of facts, assumptions, and downright lies.
This nonsense damages reputations, and actually affects the game negatively for many.
To make it worse, this hypocrite is not only an admitted cheater, but just last night he was grouped with Lisette, ALSO an admitted cheater.
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Well you all act like babys, I hope puberty is just round the corner.
I guess relentless are going to have to change their guild name again now they are flagged as cheaters... just like hefnd af blodox were eh? .. Not that I give a damn.
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EDIT: Bleh, had two reply windows up and messed up... so... lets try this...
Sanger, you are a good guy, you wouldn't hurt a fly !
And what is that ? Lisette is cheating ? She openly claimed it ? Or are you saying mean things that will make baby Jesus cry ? Aww
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>>I guess relentless are going to have to change their guild name again now they are flagged as cheaters... just like hefnd af blodox were eh?<<
They had no choice. Durgan logged back in his level 30 savage (GM) alt and booted every single member of the guild because they joined the FOTN alliance. They did not do it because of any "accusations."
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ROFL Sanger...
I grouped with Lisette at like 6 AM we needed a bard, her and Sivitri were up. I group with friends, not whoever can get me the most RPs.
We ran out, we died horribly you stupid [BLEEP]. If she was cheating she isn't very good at it. Get off your BS tirade against me, I am not an admitted cheater, I admitted to exploiting a bug caused by Mythic after I had done everything in my power to get rid of it.
It was wrong to do so and I payed for it. I was punished, it never happened again, never before, and will never again. That is a far cry from actively cheating though every day.
The bottom line though is that you people do NOT NEED TO CHEAT! That is all I want this post to tell people. Your realm is so overpowered and this game is so broken that there is no need to cheat. I never said Dengar cheated, actually was rather respectful to him. Never said you cheated either...never said any of you people posting cheated if you read...
Only the people in this post title that were in that group, SOMEONE in that group was using radar I know this for a fact and came back to test it to be sure before I posted. CC I could give a damn about, I know what I saw and I know they were cheating, you cannot argue with me.
Please leave my woman out of this too, you have no reason to be attacking her personally. Attack me please but she has nothing to do with this, be human at least is all I ask, the things you said were very cruel, and unwarranted. I can take anything but leave her alone she is innocent.
This post at least accomplished something, I hope it goes further than this, I'm working on it =) If they don't cheat they will still be around, what are you concerned about, since they don't...
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I said Lisette was an admitted cheater. She's also known as Crystalyn, you know, the Alb that was banned along with Rayn? She's admitted she used OE.
I have not accused her of cheating currently.
So, uhm, Valgrim, I guess, there's a difference between exploiting bugs and cheating? Splitting hairs aren't you?
As for your woman...well, she stays out of this, and I won't criticize her posts.
You say you're posting here to tell us we don't need to cheat or some nonsense.
Well, I'm posting here to tell you that YOU don't need to post this slime here. Appeal, then shut the hell up. Your responsibility ends there. Bringing your suspicions and slander to the boards is merely a lowlife's attempt to drag people's name through the mud.
Even if ONE person in that group cheated, and I'm sure from your own description, that NONE did, you hurt the other people named. That's despicable and beneath a decent person.
You have to be a decent person first, though.
Unfortunately, you're merely one of the growing legion of Hibs who have no better recourse than to blame their own failures on mythical cheaters.
Next we'll be hearing about how the CSRs are plotting against you as well, eh?
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I know who Lisette is.
She has nothing to do with this.
I'm not telling you that you don't need to cheat I am telling the cheaters they don't need to cheat. The reason I am doing that here, and the reason I am not appealing them is because I don't know who the hell it is that is cheating, but I know one of them was.
And if I didn't post here and go off on you people, I just wouldn't be Valgrim then would I? I won't restrain myself for your comfort, and I know you like a good argument.
My issue really is not cheaters....after all radar users STILL have to fight us when they find us.
My issue is that Midgard is too powerful, and the game is unbalanced...christ tonight at Fens I got bolted for 1387 man....my buffs dropped right before it hit but still...1387 then 790....
I am supposed to be "the most powerful caster in the game" Do I do that damage? on a grey mob my minimum is 1011...i shoot blues for 900...Not even close anymore thanks to Mythic, I just want the game to be fair is all. Tanks like Dengar shield stunning me for 20 seconds is not fair...bolts for 1378 are not fair, zerkers still doing 800-1100 is not fair...RA's that are instantly AE cast and interrupt us for 3-4 rounds is NOT fair.
You play a Hib you might see things differently, Mythic needs to fix this game. Until then whenever I see your uber groups spam I am just going to evacuate the zone so you have no fun.
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My god. You're the whiniest poster I've ever come across. You got hit for 1387? Wow, guess only mids can do that. Was it a 2hand hammer Savage with debuff bolts and an insta ae stun?
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Gjakoll - I am in Relentless, and I'm not a shaman, I think I might be a thane though - Ill have ta check. <salute>
<Calls forth lightning to end this friggen post already!!!>
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Wait one minute...
>>...the reason I am not appealing them...<<
You didn't appeal? All right you have to complain is revoked if you're not even appealing.
It becomes obvious you are not here to accomplish any purpose beyond defamation and rumor mongering.
>>And if I didn't post here and go off on you people, I just wouldn't be Valgrim then would I? I won't restrain myself for your comfort, and I know you like a good argument. <<
I love a good argument, but am still waiting for one to be furnished. You are not a cartoon character, you are not your inflated post count. In fact, you are NOT Valgrim.
>>My issue really is not cheaters....<<
After 8 pages you decide your issue is not cheaters?
You're exaggerating about the length of the stun, you're exaggerating about the damage of Berserkers, and you're describing Thornweed Field when you describe Ichor.
Strings of exaggeration like that do NOT make for a good argument.
Perhaps you and Deevila should sit down and compose a lucid and well thought out counter argument if you'd like to be take for more than a spastic paranoid. She is after all majoring in English, right?
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Thinrae, sorrie fer de confuzzles dere, mees head spinnin' frum all dis yappin' back an' forth. Aniewayz...
Hel Maor doez NOT hab a bard in dere rankz!! (I tink aniewayz). Altho frum whut a liddle birdie tol' mees, dere a free agent minstrel lookin' ta bring hiz unholie skillz ta mid, sumthin' about Qadim yanked hiz sword outta sum dum stone (dat stone he yanked sword out ob wuz prolly mees).
Aniewayz, sorrie fer de misnamin'z.
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'They had no choice. Durgan logged back in his level 30 savage (GM) alt and booted every single member of the guild because they joined the FOTN alliance. They did not do it because of any "accusations." '
It was an assumption since they changed it very shortly after the last post about them
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OMFG.Here is yet another reason for my self imposed Exile to Mordred... I couldnt take this whinning (my eyes are bleeding from reading this post)! And dont mess with Sanger, youll make me come out of retirement!
/leave Percival
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Was fun revisiting my old stomping grounds!
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Ahh..
Praise God.
I thought the people first mentioned were members of Cold Conscience.
I feel a lot better about this situation now. How the hell did CC get involved in this thread then?
<whews again>
This whole thing makes a lot more sense now.
People get the reputations they deserve folks. Very seldom does the community judge wrong as a whole.
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Wow, I have a 20 second shield stun? Why do I die so often then?
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<Gets popcorn>
This is entertaining.
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You say no member of CC cheats... cheating is based on definition... you compared a bug in a game to cheating, the same type of cheating that uses radar style/map hacks and all other goodies Skegg. Then what about your IRC stuff? You all sit in a chat room like lil no life bitches and talk while playing the game. I'm pretty sure that isn't all smooth, they made it so we couldn't understand each other for a REASON! Not only with members of your own realm too, but with other realms, which is the real kicker here. How about trying to get outside, get a life, and do something besides make America fatter.
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Darn you Dengar... nerf dorf warriors ! You're cheating ! 20 sec stun ! I beat its even AE ! And worse of all, it has a PBAoE attached to it !
So since its a PBAoE, it means you should have a pet... according to someone who said Ice Wizzies should have pets since they can PBAoE...
Oh god, too much sense in my post... *hides*
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Erg.. Have you actually spent any time in #percival? People are not allowed to discuss in-game happenings there while the game is going on. Please give ma a tremendous break. lol.
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ya dude, i went there, stayed like 2 min... i dont care what they do, but i know they can send private messagess in it (it doesnt HAVE to be the chat talk itself) or tell someone to get on aol and talk. people even ask in the chat to have others get on aim or send a private message, so dont try to say that [BLEEP] dont go down. you know damn well it does, so get off your high horse
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Because you suck Dengar.. plain n simple.
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Have no interest in the personal bickering and bitterness in this thread.
There are a ferw individuals & groups that I have suspected in the past but none mentioned here are any of them.
I've never ever suspected CC of using any form of radar. My groups have got the jump on them from advantage points and vice versa (Even if you guys are the hardest group on the server to freakin kill ). They just seem to be a expereinced group, that pans (Imagine that !) and reacts fast.
As for Vilna Stara etc, haven't run into them all that much but we have a few times and no times I can recall have I suspected them. Just last night we did catch them off guard on Pennine/Hadrians border where we were following them at speed 5 for about 30 seconds before they turned off to re-do buffs or whatever, I personally don't think they use radar of any kind either.
Just like real life, if you're successful, your group or yourself works well for any extended period of time you've got to be cheating etc in the eyes of some others. Sad sad trait of human nature that doesn't let people accept that a group might be better then them in certain regards or better on that particular day.
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<<You say no member of CC cheats... cheating is based on definition... you compared a bug in a game to cheating, the same type of cheating that uses radar style/map hacks and all other goodies Skegg. Then what about your IRC stuff? You all sit in a chat room like lil no life bitches and talk while playing the game. I'm pretty sure that isn't all smooth, they made it so we couldn't understand each other for a REASON! Not only with members of your own realm too, but with other realms, which is the real kicker here. How about trying to get outside, get a life, and do something besides make America fatter. >>
Good thing you are making America slimmer by inducing vomitting in us all with your baseless, ignorant and self indulgent posts, Aeroz. Tell me, what is it you do with your life that is such a great service to our country?
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Zxae,
You did catch our Relentless group at hw/penn zone and it hurt bad ;p Someone said radar right away but I'm guessing you saw the Spiritmaster pet ghosts or just caught a glimpse, as you said.
I personally don't think anyone uses radar anymore including ones who have already been banned for it. I've personally only ever appealed one Hib for radar and now I feel bad about it and respec their guild a lot anymore.
To the Hibs who cry we use radar go ahead and appeal. Make my day
To any Mids who don't like us. We don't like you either I'm sure...
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You can send private messages on VN too, Aeroz. I guess all VN users are scum too. Oh wait...
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By his raionale, anyone with instant messengar or even a telephone is someone who needs to go outside, get a life and stop making America fat. /boggle
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~ You did catch our Relentless group at hw/penn zone and it hurt bad ;p Someone said radar right away but I'm guessing you saw the Spiritmaster pet ghosts or just caught a glimpse, as you said~
*laughs* It was raining when we caught ya'll and those SM pets shine bright while in the dark rain giving a great outline against the brown of Albion. As we got close you got over the little incline just before the zoneline to Pennine and we saw you turn right and go behind the tree.
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Awww he got bolted for 13 blah blah blah. I have been bolted by a Fire wizzy for about the same....
But ya Midgard is waaaaay overpowered.
That is why on most servers Midgard is in dead last in realmpoints gained since the patch. Cause the |337 ness of da Mids...
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stara - the examples were laid out b/c its live, theres many more ways to talk obviously, but i just named ones i know the people use for live info.
EDIT: the VN messages arent "live" they take time to go back and forth. else you could get into dengar mode and consider email/mail/pigeon messenger a freaking way to do things.
dengar - if someone doesnt list every single and possible situation you can always find something to nag on, anyone with an IQ over 2 can do that son. you are worse than a gf or wife in your nagging antics in fact, which is rather amusing. shove a tampon on for a second and think outside your own lil sphere of "godlike intellect". being smart can get you far in life, but not everywhere.
since you inquire, i have a lot that i do...tops being owning my car(a good car at that), building house now, all while being 22 and one year from graduation. if you like to know all the details feel free to PM me, hell i'll even send you a copy of my resume. i bet you will be pleasantly surprised.
to close this all up, you cant argue that you all do CHEAT (cheat defined ala skegg) by using those terms of communication like IRC and other live chat. using that to talk is a 3rd party software that *can* interfere with the flow of the game. you tried to veer my point by saying everyone can using x,y,z methods. of course they can df, the big difference I HAVE SEEN them do it in IRC/AIM myself, have you seen them all using their phones??? i dont think so. have a nice day.
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So you have been watching people cheat using AIM, huh? What are you, AIE and haxxing people's BIOS?
And if you are building houses, then you are providing Americans places to live where they can get fat. Oh no, you are contributing to the downfall of our civilization! Heavens to betsy!
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ive been on a side "hearing" converstaions on aim as they take place. being on aim while at work, you can talk to people that are playing live, and get the same info they are sharing with other players live while they are in game and im not, hell you can even have CHAT GROUPS setup to aid as well. not real hard to grasp there, why didnt you know that already, i mean you do know everything dont ya?
lol not gonna go into detail b/c its a riot... im building house, i.e. im buying a brand new house for myself. try harder please, you keep making me laugh.
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Do you hear that?
This thread is now making Baby Jesus cry.
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thought that happened on the original post ?
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>>I feel a lot better about this situation now. How the hell did CC get involved in this thread then?<<
Several references were made to a guild made up of "ex-Hibernians" and a few other things that directly implicate our guild. The comment was then added that "I know they use radar too."
And Aeroz... wow, words cannot describe the level of idiocy you are currently operating on.
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Aeroz, I don't have much of a reply to you other than a simple question. Why is so important for you to call my friends and I cheaters? What is your motivation behind these baseless accusations? Why do YOU want me to be a cheater? I'm genuinely interested in knowing. I mean, this last accusation, about me using IRC to cheat is just ridiculous, and really stretching it. Fact is, I spend about 30 minutes or less in IRC a week, and none of that is when I'm playing the game. Ask any of the channel regulars there, they will tell you so.
So, anyway, whats your beef? What is the motivation behind this ridiculousness? To put it plainly, what are you trying to achieve through these accusations?
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i never said skeggjold cheats.. i said i was using YOUR broad definition of cheating to show that it is simple to label anyone a cheater. do i believe its cheats personally? NO do i believe valgrim using a bug in his favor was a cheat? NO ...Do i believe these radar/hacker people are cheats? YES!
HUGE DIFFERENCE THERE! The thing is you wanted to try to crucify Valgrim over something that was in the past, and not a big deal, over the fact that he personally felt these people were playing un fairand using outside game help. Now he probably shouldnt have named exact names of people, would stirred less an issue, but its all in gest now.
All my posts were done in a style that related to what you said or Dengar said. Exact same. You end up thinking its the complete other side of the world when its done to you.. mainly b/c you guys are taking a pretty much double standard on this whole thing. Not all your "friends" are your "friends" and not everyone that you play with you really "know". Less your sitting there in a LAN with all your guild, you cant tell me you know...
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Well Aeroz. The goals of my posts were two fold:
1) Defend myself from ridiculous accusations, made without evidence, and seemingly for the sole purpose of discrediting me. He has no evidence. He describes no incidents. He is slandering my friends and I solely because of his own dislike for us. Who is crucifying who?
2) To expose Valgrim's hypocrisy. You don't see me calling Valgrim a cheater for no reason at all. Or making threads about Valgrim being a cheater without provocation. You see me reminding Valgrim that he has been banned for cheating (only after he slanders me) by admittingly exploiting a bug:
"I admitted to exploiting a bug caused by Mythic..."
http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=52654295&page=9
Valgrim seems to believe that he is the moral authority on this server, when in fact, he has no moral ground to stand on. He constantly attempts to ruin people's reputations, without proof, and with no reasoning other than he dislikes said people and the realm from which they came. I mean, lets face it, you can't expect to call someone a cheater when you yourself have been banned for "exploiting", especially when those persons have a totally clean record.
So can I be faulted for my posts here? Yah, I guess I can. Not for bringing up Valgrim's past or for defending myself. I can be faulted for the manner in which I did it, basically knowingly using the same form of inflamatory accusation and character assassination that Valgrim prefers to use. Why did I do this? Perhaps to give him a taste of his own medicine? It was obvious how he felt about being attacked in the same manner which he attacks others, as evidenced by the f-bomb laden response I received (the same one which seems to have gotten him banned from the boards). I guess I was being petty by doing that, I feel bad for doing it....but not THAT bad.
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Skegg, you know you should consider Valgrim as a diety, otherwise Aie will hack you
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Well said, Zxae.
Why hasn't this thread been locked down yet, anyway?
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To entertain people at work ?
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"I AM a raging alcoholic"
"I don't do drugs"
Erm.
I'm confuseled by these two statements, which contradict one another.
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No Sanger this is not an argument, this is me bitching, I'm bitching about people who I know with 100% certainty were cheating, then I am also bitching about the sick fools who totally unbalanced this game and made Midgard almost impossibly to play against.
I don't want to argue with you. I don't have to because I know I am right. If you don't like my opinion and don't give a [BLEEP] what I say then don't bother with me. After all I'm just some drunk drug crazed lunatic that has human beings jumping out of my BIOS?? (WTF Dengar) right?
That's the beautiful thing about not giving a damn what people like you think. I don't come here to argue I come here to tell people what's up. If you want to argue go ahead but I am always right. Again, anyone who is innocent doesn't feel the need to defend themselves. Look at this thread, you all seem pretty goddamn guilty to me. Even people I never accused.
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Perhaps we're righteously indignant.
You can look that up.
Hey...
Why are you still posting as TRK? Did you get banned?
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lol of course I got banned, god took me long enough, this one should be banned too dammit.
Again thank you for not directing your insults to the love of my life, I don't care what anyone says and I know it's stated repeatedly but this IS still just a game. If we all liked each other I wouldn't be so motivated to play =)
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No problem, Val, I actually deleted a jab at your love before posting, was just too beneath me.
Maybe you can show similar consideration and not drag people's names through the mud?
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*Takes a sheet of paper, writes "Sanger" on it*
Bwahaha
*Starts to drag the paper sheet in the mud*
Take that Sanger !!!!!
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Skegg I was trying to get banned on purpose to keep me away from responding to you but I just can't resist, every thread I read here is boring. You people post the stupidest [BLEEP] most of you need a hard slapping and a free ticket to a ditch in Mississippi.
At least I offer something entertaining...you just seem to have a problem understanding that I am always right, and if you disagree with me that means you are wrong. I don't personally dislike you Skegg, or any of you. I don't know you. All I know is some of you cheat in the game, and I don't like cheating. Neither does anyone else.
I also like to intimidate and mock my enemy in this GAME so they have a reason to kill me. This doesn't mean you need to be the rude pricks that you are though but that's up to you. I still respect all of you save for the couple who are extremely insulting and mentally challenged.
And alcohol is NOT a drug Elarra I don't care what anyone says. Everyone here needs to drink a lot more of it and enjoy life a bit.
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alcohol is a form of drug, and i dont care what anyone says either, ner ner
hey guess what, my dicks bigger than everyones therefor that make me teh w1n!!!won!!!
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this thread is still going?
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"this thread is still going?"//
I'm assuming that's rhetorical.
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This thread is too entertaining to die.
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>>You don't come to Midgard often do you?<<
My favorite quote from this thread
Not many 50 skalds that dont go to Midgard often.
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