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Check up on friends and family.....Co-workers or even the vnbadness that is here. Cause even the people you THINK are ok....they Could not be. Suicides are serious Just got the "call" that every1 hates to get. Finding out someone you knew, respected and even viewed as a mentor had died. RIP Big Sargent (Wont put name cuz truthfully no1 here would even know him) but lets just say this man was a great inspiration to my military career. First and hopefully last military personal that i knew to die and whats worse is its suicide~
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Everyone has their weak moments. Remember the better times.
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Brandyn.PoK posted: Everyone has their weak moments. Remember the better times.
Yah i agree....Nobody is invincible still is a shock and its been hours since iv found out
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That's tough. Especially to suicide. PTSD is a major thing though (assuming he might have had it) or maybe it was something else. Either way sorry to hear
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Zultanious posted: That's tough. Especially to suicide. PTSD is a major thing though (assuming he might have had it) or maybe it was something else. Either way sorry to hear
Yah im expectin to hear divorce or some thing along the lines of what you said. This post is directed more to people who have not had some1 die close to them to this and may not know the signs....especially in my case where no1 saw it coming. Its more of a wake up call to make sure when ur friend says "Im ok" and he normally says "Im good" something small as that to just check up on em and make sure. I typically do this but thats bc iv had alot of suicides in my life This 1 felt just like my family since it was Army related~
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Sorry to hear that man. My cousin killed himself in 2004. It's so hard on the family, everyone feels guilty like they should have known or done something to stop it. And then you're just left with so many questions.
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I'm sorry, but suicide is the most pathetically selfish thing that someone can do. To leave the rest of your family and friends with the burden of your death, emotionally, financially, etc. it's a complete cop out. I'm sorry for your loss, and I've had friends take their own lives as well and every time it just pisses me off to no end.
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-Fastbreak- posted: I'm sorry, but suicide is the most pathetically selfish thing that someone can do. To leave the rest of your family and friends with the burden of your death, emotionally, financially, etc. it's a complete cop out. I'm sorry for your loss, and I've had friends take their own lives as well and every time it just pisses me off to no end.
I agree 100% actually....Its a cowards way out.....:) and thanks Iv dealt with depression myself....luckily i had a great doctor who when i did my annual 3 mo drug test asked me if everything was ok. I talked to em....He set me up w/ a psychologist and I got put on sleeping pills. (which was what i hated but if i didnt take em i would stay up for up to 4 days before even thinking of sleeping) Thanks to good doctors im now not having bad thoughts or anything. Im now living my life Just stopped taking sleeping pills 2 weeks ago (after being dropped down in MG for last couple of months) Still havin issue sleeping however im not depressed
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Sorry to hear it, Champ. Good that he touched other people's lives in positive ways that made them care about him, it's something we should all be able to do.
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Zultanious posted: good therapist can do lots
Well this one was pretty epic tbh....But that was cuz she was hot and we smashed 4x LOL but shhhh~ Dont ever want my regular Dr know about this...he may kick my ass ! lol
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-Fastbreak- posted: I'm sorry, but suicide is the most pathetically selfish thing that someone can do. To leave the rest of your family and friends with the burden of your death, emotionally, financially, etc. it's a complete cop out. I'm sorry for your loss, and I've had friends take their own lives as well and every time it just pisses me off to no end.
Would liek to add that i dont go to funerals for suicides, for those reasons. Sorry to hear about your loss mate I recently had some people pass
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i've had friends die from suicide, over dosing, or just random dumb profanity, and the one thing i have never done is get angry or judge any of them since the loss of life and what was or could never be is too important.
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Agreed with Fb_. In my opinion, you only have the right to suicide when you are on your dying bed, too weak to even go poop by yourself, suffering every minute wishing it was the last.
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PtnbZ posted: Agreed with Fb_. In my opinion, you only have the right to suicide when you are on your dying bed, too weak to even go poop by yourself, suffering every minute wishing it was the last.
judging another is just another form of self righteousness.
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Zultanious posted: good therapist can do lots
now i def know that ur a female
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Mooshaka posted:
PtnbZ posted: Agreed with Fb_. In my opinion, you only have the right to suicide when you are on your dying bed, too weak to even go poop by yourself, suffering every minute wishing it was the last.
judging another is just another form of self righteousness.
You could judge me if you were worth anything bro. Sadly this is not the case.
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i been dealing with PTSD for almost 19 years this is the hardest thing ever in my life to deal with.i thanks god everyday for the friends and family i have.
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Zultanious posted: That's tough. Especially to suicide. PTSD is a major thing though (assuming he might have had it) or maybe it was something else. Either way sorry to hear
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RennieMead posted: Sorry to hear that man. My cousin killed himself in 2004. It's so hard on the family, everyone feels guilty like they should have known or done something to stop it. And then you're just left with so many questions.
How did he do it?
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Syndiz posted: Winter is coming.
This man knows the important things in life. ???
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Ethward-Ethnas posted:
-Fastbreak- posted: I'm sorry, but suicide is the most pathetically selfish thing that someone can do. To leave the rest of your family and friends with the burden of your death, emotionally, financially, etc. it's a complete cop out. I'm sorry for your loss, and I've had friends take their own lives as well and every time it just pisses me off to no end.
Would liek to add that i dont go to funerals for suicides, for those reasons. Sorry to hear about your loss mate I recently had some people pass
Quoted only because you were prolly looking for it ITT.
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Very sorry to hear this Speak. However, I don't think people really understand depression if you think suicide is selfish, especially in cases of serious mental illness. Just my £0.02.
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Leoj-Kay posted: Very sorry to hear this Speak. However, I don't think people really understand depression if you think suicide is selfish, especially in cases of serious mental illness. Just my £0.02.
Suicide is the easy way out. You can live on in 'torment and in the darkness of the open water beneath you forever and succeed by doing so.' The people that choose death are the weaker ones. They simply need to L2P @ life.
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Speakno, very sorry to hear about this and I hope you are doing okay. Congratulations on beating back depression and furthermore for being a man and facing your issues (also for getting laid in the process...that's a +1 for sure). I support people's right to take their own lives simply because it is their life to live or not to. That being said, I think it is very short sighted, ungracious, and a silly thing to do (except in extremity of chronic pain or something).
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Rolledbythechamp posted:
Zultanious posted: good therapist can do lots
Well this one was pretty epic tbh....But that was cuz she was hot and we smashed 4x LOL but shhhh~ Dont ever want my regular Dr know about this...he may kick my ass ! lol
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CatastrophicRoxianne posted: Speakno, very sorry to hear about this and I hope you are doing okay. Congratulations on beating back depression and furthermore for being a man and facing your issues (also for getting laid in the process...that's a +1 for sure). I support people's right to take their own lives simply because it is their life to live or not to. That being said, I think it is very short sighted, ungracious, and a silly thing to do (except in extremity of chronic pain or something).
Thanks And drew possibly....But i dont need u to believe me Uv lived ur life and iv lived mine... This post is intended that the man is sick...He could have had PTSD he had been deployed 4 times in 6 years...its tough for a family.... Suicide is not justified by me...Sorry even relgious people believe if u commit suicide your going to hell...But lets not get into that please As i said this thread is not for to chat about "suicide" itself ...Its to Tell people that there are people who can help.....Its to tell ppl my faults....I beat depression.....And all i did was get depresssed over years. Mostly i beat it cause i stepped the freak up and helped myself. For any1 who played lance or pre-ywain that knew me (doubtful but its ok) will tell u that i literally used to play for days ......Never loggin......Worse then i do now cuz i admit i do play alot lol I used this as an escape route....It worked for awhile but then i started drinkin....And every1 knows what alcohol does.. @ Ecuseme...I hope ur gettin the best help u can. My uncle had PTSD....had to sleep outside in a trailor it was so bad. Its serious stuff and ill pray for u...Cuz PTSD is very dangerous Thanks to every1 for the kind words. Try not to derail this thread Would like to make it known that even the VN Annoyance has faced rl...Who knows 1 of us may face this and be like hmm...I should talk to this person...All it takes is 1 person to turn some1s day/world around.
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Leoj-Kay posted: Very sorry to hear this Speak. However, I don't think people really understand depression if you think suicide is selfish, especially in cases of serious mental illness. Just my £0.02.
I completely understand depression. I've been depressed. I'm depressed reading this crap right now. While I've never been to war, I've worked for one of the busiest fire departments in the nation and seen things that people simply aren't supposed to see. If you don't think that offing yourself, leaving your family to clean up the mess (literally- someone has to clean it up), plan your funeral, pay your bills, handle the rest of your affairs, etc. isn't selfish then you clearly have no concept of what selfishness is.
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I think what they are trying to say is that people in that state just aren't thinking about that. Do I agree that it is selfish? Of course. But are people really thinking of what their actions will bring? No I don't think so.
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Zultanious posted: I think what they are trying to say is that people in that state just aren't thinking about that. Do I agree that it is selfish? Of course. But are people really thinking of what their actions will bring? No I don't think so.
You just described selfishness: not thinking about others, you maroon.
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Zultanious posted: I think what they are trying to say is that people in that state just aren't thinking about that. Do I agree that it is selfish? Of course. But are people really thinking of what their actions will bring? No I don't think so.
You just described selfishness: not thinking about others, you maroon.
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Zultanious posted: I think what they are trying to say is that people in that state just aren't thinking about that. Do I agree that it is selfish? Of course. But are people really thinking of what their actions will bring? No I don't think so.
You just described selfishness: not thinking about others, you maroon.
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did he at least do it in a cool way?
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Clamorr posted: did he at least do it in a cool way?
:P no details are released atm...But i wanna know how....
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-Fastbreak- posted: You just described selfishness: not thinking about others, you maroon.
For someone that isn't suffering from a mental illness, probably being relevant. It's not just ambivalence toward others, there are significant mental processes being altered and impaired. Not to mention the extreme sense of distress and pain accompanying many of them. Yeah, it might be ostensibly selfish to us, but they aren't necessarily capable of thinking rationally or normally. Sorry for your loss, Speak.
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I think the opposite about suicide. If someone really doesn't wantto ply the game of life, who are other people to force it down on them.. However I do agree if you're doing this and you've left behind children or a wife, it is a cowards way. but if it was something like a lonely old man, or a pathetic virgin with no family i say why not. If theyre not finding happiness in this life, perhaps they could find it in what lies next.
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Yes, if you look at it like that, it does seem selfish. It is both the easy way out for someone with deep seated problems, and it is everyone else who is left to pick up the pieces. As Zall said, however, for someone who is severely depressed/suffering from a mental health disorder, they aren't thinking in any logical form. Often they find themselves such a burden on everyone around them, that suicide is actually away of helping them.
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On the bright side, life is meaningless. When all is said and done and everything we ever did or didn't do is forgotten, entropy will reign supreme. In the end we're all just shadows and dust.
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Toughest posted: On the bright side, life is meaningless. When all is said and done and everything we ever did or didn't do is forgotten, entropy will reign supreme. In the end we're all just shadows and dust.
What an awesome outlook.
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-Fastbreak- posted:
Toughest posted: On the bright side, life is meaningless. When all is said and done and everything we ever did or didn't do is forgotten, entropy will reign supreme. In the end we're all just shadows and dust.
What an awesome outlook.
How predictable. Just because life is meaningless (at this stage of evolution) doesn't meat I don't try to enjoy the time I have here cupcake. Merely existing I make things better for others. Now go make me a pb&j sandwich.
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Rolledbythechamp posted: (Wont put name cuz truthfully no1 here would even know him)
I sorry for your loss but...if no one knows him here why do you bother even posting it? You know all thats gonna happen is the thread gets trolled.
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Galaniel posted:
Rolledbythechamp posted: (Wont put name cuz truthfully no1 here would even know him)
I sorry for your loss but...if no one knows him here why do you bother even posting it? You know all thats gonna happen is the thread gets trolled.
Actually people havent really trolled...The reason i made this post is because some people never realize how serious or common suicides are. This is just something i felt needed to be posted....As iv said in previous posts ....U never truthfully know who or when sum1 will do such a thing. So sometimes its just best to check up on someone
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-Fastbreak- posted: I'm sorry, but suicide is the most pathetically selfish thing that someone can do. To leave the rest of your family and friends with the burden of your death, emotionally, financially, etc. it's a complete cop out. I'm sorry for your loss, and I've had friends take their own lives as well and every time it just pisses me off to no end.
certainly it can be selfish, but maybe you underestimate the pain some people go through. I wouldn't want to say anything that makes suicide seem like an acceptable answer, but have some compassion for what some people go through, and don't take their situation lightly.
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I've had a few family members commit suicide so I've dealt with it, myself. It's tough, of course, but it's kind of hard to let it get you completely down since it's not like some random accident, which I would expect would be worse (hasn't happened in my family circle / circle of friends, knock on wood). That said..."going to be serious a moment" and you still had to type a damn tilde~
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Dogunugh posted: I've had a few family members commit suicide so I've dealt with it, myself. It's tough, of course, but it's kind of hard to let it get you completely down since it's not like some random accident, which I would expect would be worse (hasn't happened in my family circle / circle of friends, knock on wood). That said..."going to be serious a moment" and you still had to type a damn tilde~
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Gurrier posted: Ultimate selfish act
Genocide.
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If suicide is the cowards way out of life, is pot the cowards way out of living? Some people find the pain of life to great to bear and end it and some find the pain of living to great and dull themselves with drugs and alcohol. Cowards, either way.
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redlegOIF posted: If suicide is the cowards way out of life, is pot the cowards way out of living? Some people find the pain of life to great to bear and end it and some find the pain of living to great and dull themselves with drugs and alcohol. Cowards, either way.
Tell that to people with chronic nerve pain. Better to dull the pain than willfully forcing that pain on others. If you live long or hard enough you eventually realize that life IS pain. I guess it's better you live in ignorance of that as long as possible.
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YEIASISAWESOME posted: Speakno, deserved it then.
Eh nvm just realized who u were....
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redlegOIF posted: If suicide is the cowards way out of life, is pot the cowards way out of living? Some people find the pain of life to great to bear and end it and some find the pain of living to great and dull themselves with drugs and alcohol. Cowards, either way.
Tell that to people with chronic nerve pain. Better to dull the pain than willfully forcing that pain on others. If you live long or hard enough you eventually realize that life IS pain. I guess it's better you live in ignorance of that as long as possible.
Ah yes, the medicinal argument. I'm sure that everyone that uses marijuana, and heroin, and cocaine, and meth, and whatever they can get in their system, has chronic nerve pain.
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Ah yes, the medicinal argument. I'm sure that everyone that uses marijuana, and herione, and cocaine, and meth, and whatever they can get in their system, has chronic nerve pain.
Cant fix stupid.
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Zall_Trist posted:
For someone that isn't suffering from a mental illness, probably being relevant. It's not just ambivalence toward others, there are significant mental processes being altered and impaired. Not to mention the extreme sense of distress and pain accompanying many of them. Yeah, it might be ostensibly selfish to us, but they aren't necessarily capable of thinking rationally or normally. Sorry for your loss, Speak.
Probably the smartest thing that anyone has actually said in this thread.
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redlegOIF posted: If suicide is the cowards way out of life, is pot the cowards way out of living? Some people find the pain of life to great to bear and end it and some find the pain of living to great and dull themselves with drugs and alcohol. Cowards, either way.
This is one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Might as well say enjoying anything that makes you happy is being cowardly. Hanging with your friends? profanity coward. Driving just to drive? profanity coward. Sleeping with your significant other? profanity coward. Go be a Puritan somewhere else.
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Kedali-Pellinor posted:
redlegOIF posted: If suicide is the cowards way out of life, is pot the cowards way out of living? Some people find the pain of life to great to bear and end it and some find the pain of living to great and dull themselves with drugs and alcohol. Cowards, either way.
This is one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Might as well say enjoying anything that makes you happy is being cowardly. Hanging with your friends? profanity coward. Driving just to drive? profanity coward. Sleeping with your significant other? profanity coward. Go be a Puritan somewhere else.
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