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Joe Flacco thinks he’s the NFL’s best quarterback
While negotiating with the Baltimore Ravens of late and trying to seal the deal on a long-term extension for client Joe Flacco, agent Joe Linta opined that Flacco is one of the top five quarterbacks in the NFL. Linta used the questionable method of Quarterback Wins Analysis to make his case, citing Flacco's 44-20 regular-season "record" as proof. One wonders just how many of those wins flacco would have posted without Ray Rice, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, and one of the best overall teams in the NFL, but we digress, because Flacco doesnt want to hear it.
When recently asked by Baltimore radio station WNST to rate himself in the pantheon of NFL quarterbacks, Flacco put it right out there -- he thinks he's the very best.
"Without a doubt. What do you expect me to say?" he queried. "I assume everybody thinks they're a top-five quarterback. I mean, I think I'm the best. I don't think I'm top-five, I think I'm the best. I don't think I'd be very successful at my job if I didn't feel that way. I mean, c'mon? That's not really too tough of a question. But that doesn't mean that things are gonna work out that way. It just means that that's the way it is, that's the way I feel it is, and that's the way I feel it should be."
Flacco's also totally on board with the whole "QB wins" thing, as you'd expect him to be. After all, it's a bit easier to explain that you un-specifically won a bunch of games that it is to break down specific anamolies. Example: In Flacco's four-year NFL career, the Ravens have won 11 regular-season and two postseason games in which their elite quarterback has failed to throw a touchdown pass. So, yeah -- better for Joe Cool to put the stats on the back burner.
"I dunno, because people do put winning into the consideration a lot of times," he said. "It just happens to not be with us. But hey, I wanna throw for 40 touchdowns a year and I wanna throw for 6,000 yards a year. I really do. And I wanna be given the ability to do that. … You know what kind of team we need to be is we need to be a Super Bowl champion team. And in order to get there, we need to do the things that are gonna really get us there.
"And hey, we might lose one or two games because we're being really super aggressive, but you know what? That's what's gonna get us to the Super Bowl. And that's what's gonna win it for us. And I love winning, and I'm gonna continue to win no matter what my numbers are. I don't care if I throw for 2,000 yards a year. I wanna throw for 5 or 6,000 yards a year, because I think that's what's best for our team."
In the end, though, Flacco's cool with the negotiating process; he knows that while he is improving as a quarterback, there also aren't many better security blankets than Baltimore when you're having a bad day in the air. It's certainly a good place to be while Flacco continues the process of actually becoming as good as he thinks he is ... if that's possible.
"We talk about it, but I leave it to [Joe Linta]," Flacco said. "And it either gets done or it doesn't. I'm not really too involved in the process besides letting [Linta] know how I feel and letting him take care of that, and letting the Baltimore Ravens take care of their side. And that's really my involvement. It's not about the money, it's about what you as a player feel that you deserve. And at the end of the day, they'll take care of it and I'll be waiting."
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Oh shit. Dude, I went to Law School. I'm a top five QB.
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That's a winning attitude, Joe. if you don't have confidence in yourself you will never be an elite QB and team leader.
People made such a big deal out of Eli's "Elite QB" comment last year, and look how he turned out...
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Flacco is one of the few problems Baltimore has
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problem? ur just a hater flacco is a good qb thats getting better every year F U PRESTON!
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No, Flacco is shit.
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Flacco is average. He doesn't carry the team on his back but he doesn't really lose games either.
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He can be getting better all he wants hes still bottom half, he can say 'I want to be the best' and not be full of BS, but when you say 'I'm the best' and you aren't even close - you sound like a douchebag.
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He can be getting better all he wants hes still bottom half, he can say 'I want to be the best' and not be full of BS, but when you say 'I'm the best' and you aren't even close - you sound like a douchebag.
You can really name 16 qb's better than Flacco? I think not. There isn't many good qb's out there which would make Flacco around 10-12.
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Chili_Palmer posted:
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He can be getting better all he wants hes still bottom half, he can say 'I want to be the best' and not be full of BS, but when you say 'I'm the best' and you aren't even close - you sound like a douchebag.
You can really name 16 qb's better than Flacco? I think not. There isn't many good qb's out there which would make Flacco around 10-12.
Id say 12 or so as well.
Rodgers, Brady, Brees, P. Manning, Roethlisberger, Rivers, Eli Manning, Ryan, Romo, Schaub, and Stafford are all better I think.
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I think most people would pretty much have the same list. Schaub is good when he is healthy but I need to see him actually play a full season more than once (especially since qb's can't get touched anymore). I think Ryan and Flacco are close to the same since one hasn't really blew me away with their play.
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Flacco is above average, but no where near elite. I would not rate Romo or Roethlisberger above him. The rest I 100% agree with though.
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Big Ben is no joke. He may be a cockboy off the field but when he's playing he can lead and you can see in his game play how much he wants to win.
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Well your problem isnt rb, defense, wr
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Why is this such a big deal?
I think everyone knows he's not an elite QB but what is he supposed to say? "I'm an average QB"? You can't knock the guy for having confidence, personally if I was a Raven's fan I would want my QB to think that way.
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Big Ben is a total shit qb. He isn't better than even Mark Sanchez.
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Chili_Palmer posted:
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He can be getting better all he wants hes still bottom half, he can say 'I want to be the best' and not be full of BS, but when you say 'I'm the best' and you aren't even close - you sound like a douchebag.
You can really name 16 qb's better than Flacco? I think not. There isn't many good qb's out there which would make Flacco around 10-12.
Maybe bottom half is a bit of a stretch, but put half the starting QBs in the league in his position, and I doubt it'd hurt the Ravens much.
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He can be getting better all he wants hes still bottom half, he can say 'I want to be the best' and not be full of BS, but when you say 'I'm the best' and you aren't even close - you sound like a douchebag.
You can really name 16 qb's better than Flacco? I think not. There isn't many good qb's out there which would make Flacco around 10-12.
Id say 12 or so as well.
Rodgers, Brady, Brees, P. Manning, Roethlisberger, Rivers, Eli Manning, Ryan, Romo, Schaub, and Stafford are all better I think.
+ cam newton, Andy Dalton, I'll take Matt hasselback too, uhh cutler, Matt ryan,
Alex smith ? Andrew luck? Robert griffin III? Carson Palmer?
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I thought about Cam and Cutler. Cams too new. Ryan is up there... def not Palmer, Luck, RG III, or Alex Smith.
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Michael Vick, and since it is Flacco, we're obviously going by potential that hasn't been lived up to as of yet, I'd also take Fitzpatrick or Bradford over him too.
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He can be getting better all he wants hes still bottom half, he can say 'I want to be the best' and not be full of BS, but when you say 'I'm the best' and you aren't even close - you sound like a douchebag.
You can really name 16 qb's better than Flacco? I think not. There isn't many good qb's out there which would make Flacco around 10-12.
Id say 12 or so as well.
Rodgers, Brady, Brees, P. Manning, Roethlisberger, Rivers, Eli Manning, Ryan, Romo, Schaub, and Stafford are all better I think.
You can add Vick, Newton, Cutler and probably another one or two I am missing to that list.
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Flacco is holding the ravens back
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RayneOfAmber posted:
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He can be getting better all he wants hes still bottom half, he can say 'I want to be the best' and not be full of BS, but when you say 'I'm the best' and you aren't even close - you sound like a douchebag.
You can really name 16 qb's better than Flacco? I think not. There isn't many good qb's out there which would make Flacco around 10-12.
Id say 12 or so as well.
Rodgers, Brady, Brees, P. Manning, Roethlisberger, Rivers, Eli Manning, Ryan, Romo, Schaub, and Stafford are all better I think.
I would take out romo/schaub/rapelesberger, MAYBE leave schaub
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Flacco is average. He doesn't carry the team on his back but he doesn't really lose games either.
agreed. if this wasn't such an intense passing era he would be considered very very good.
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cant wait for matt ryan to turn on beastmode.
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lol ppl who say big ben sucks are idiots. He went like 15-0 his rookie year, only loss was by batch or whoever was starting the first game. Also 2 superbowls.
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49'ers almost got to the super bowl but that doesn't mean alex smith is any good
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No, Flacco is shit.
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No, Flacco is shit.
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old. He is serviceable, but not elite.
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