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Mine's going on 4 years now and, with perfect 20/20 hindsight, I wish I had bit the bullet and bought a bigger ssd so I could have more games on it.
Nothing is wrong except it's taking longer for Trim to work, but that's 15 seconds instead of 10.
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SSD manufacturers rate their lifespan anywhere from 1 200 000 to 2 000 000 hours, Which is not a real number but calculated using some funky extrapolations.
I believe a regular HDD is rated at around 83 000 MTBF.
If we take the manufacturers' number as gospel, then a SSD rated at 1 200 000 MTBF used 10 hrs a day should last about 324 years. Let's call the SSD number a dirty lie and divide the number by 10 - we get 120 000 hrs, which is still 1.5 times the rated life of an HDD, or 32.4 yrs in our example.
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Don't really think SSD have been around long enough to have a good answer to that. It does depend on how often you right to the SSD drive and how full it is.
I suspect many SSDs will outlive their usefulness before they die of natural causes. Of course there is the chance an SSD will die early from unnatural causes.
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wait.. what... a regular HD has 20 years life rate? wtf... that can't be average... that would be at best... I don't think I had any active HD get past 5 years...
as for SSD, unless there is some unnatural cause for it to go bad (heat, power surge, shock, etc) I can actually believe that it can function 50-100 years since there is no moving parts (no disk).
Now I didn't study the structure of a ssd like I did with normal hd, so I can't be for sure tot
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Ravynmagi posted:
Don't really think SSD have been around long enough to have a good answer to that. It does depend on how often you right to the SSD drive and how full it is.
I suspect many SSDs will outlive their usefulness before they die of natural causes. Of course there is the chance an SSD will die early from unnatural causes.
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Palvati posted:
wait.. what... a regular HD has 20 years life rate? wtf... that can't be average... that would be at best... I don't think I had any active HD get past 5 years...
as for SSD, unless there is some unnatural cause for it to go bad (heat, power surge, shock, etc) I can actually believe that it can function 50-100 years since there is no moving parts (no disk).
Now I didn't study the structure of a ssd like I did with normal hd, so I can't be for sure tot
Haha yeah, that's why I said we better divide the manufacturer's rated MTBF by 10 hehe. I still have HDDs that I have been using for 6 years, and I generally replace them not because they break, but because of technology and capacity advancements.
Also I have no idea what is considered a dead SSD - when some of it cells die? When all cells die or when a certain portion die?
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Palvati posted:
wait.. what... a regular HD has 20 years life rate? wtf... that can't be average... that would be at best... I don't think I had any active HD get past 5 years...
as for SSD, unless there is some unnatural cause for it to go bad (heat, power surge, shock, etc) I can actually believe that it can function 50-100 years since there is no moving parts (no disk).
Now I didn't study the structure of a ssd like I did with normal hd, so I can't be for sure tot
You have never had a HD last longer than5 years? I have had plenty last that long, and at work we have a lot of pc's out in the field that are older than 5 years.
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I got an old cheetah drive from like '99/'00 or something that still ran when I finally decided to scrap an old PC that was in the closet. It did show its age, but it did not give me lots of scsi errors.
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You have never had a HD last longer than5 years? I have had plenty last that long, and at work we have a lot of pc's out in the field that are older than 5 years.
not 5 year straight. If it didn't break, it was upgraded and stored away on a box until I build another computer. I don't think I had any of them run 5 straight years. I do have working HDs that are older than 5 years. Especially with PATA to SATA changes.
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Palvati posted:
as for SSD, unless there is some unnatural cause for it to go bad (heat, power surge, shock, etc) I can actually believe that it can function 50-100 years since there is no moving parts (no disk).
And possibly the number one unnatural killer of SSD drives are firmware issues.
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Caoilin posted:
Ravynmagi posted:
Don't really think SSD have been around long enough to have a good answer to that. It does depend on how often you right to the SSD drive and how full it is.
I suspect many SSDs will outlive their usefulness before they die of natural causes. Of course there is the chance an SSD will die early from unnatural causes.
Right on.
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Palvati posted:
wait.. what... a regular HD has 20 years life rate? wtf... that can't be average... that would be at best... I don't think I had any active HD get past 5 years...
I've only ever had one HD go bad on me. And that was within a couple of months of buying it.
My old computer that I gave to my Brother has been around since '00 and it still has the original HD. I don't think he uses it very often now though.
My current computer at home I built in '96 and the OS drive is still the original. I've added a larger data drive. But the original OS drive is still ticking just fine.
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Hard drives I rarely use for more than 5 years. By that age, they are usually too small and slow and replaced with something bigger and faster.
I just replaced my first SSD drives I bought 3 years ago. Bought a couple OCZ Vertex 1 120GB drives for $800 total. It was replaced with a single Vertex 3 250GB drive for $350 that is faster than the Vertex 1 drives in RAID0. So I got 3 years out of those SSDs before replacing for more performance. I'll continue using the Vertex 1 drives, one went to another desktop, the other went to my laptop.
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SSDs have a life limit. Each cell can only be written to X number of times. I believe X is 10,000. Drive makers use complicated algorithms to manage the data and the amount of memory on the disk is much bigger than the size of the drive.
Mine is going on four years, without any problem.
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SSDs have a life limit. Each cell can only be written to X number of times. I believe X is 10,000. Drive makers use complicated algorithms to manage the data and the amount of memory on the disk is much bigger than the size of the drive.
Mine is going on four years, without any problem.
From what I have read 10 000 was the write cycle limit of the first and worst flash-based drives (USB flash drives maybe?). Today a common number for SSD should be 300 000 write cycles with 1 000 000 write cycles for the top of the line drives.
All this is from reading general articles on SSD technology, so I have no idea if the 1 000 000 number is for "regular" drives or some $1000 models.
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Anand did an article on this a few years ago and under heavy simulator use it got about 7 years of life. Â Real world was higher. Â Newer ones are better.Go find the article
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having seen hundreds, HUNDREDS, (thousands if you include SANs) of mechanical hdd's, i have seen maybe 3-4 that actually ever "went bad" beyond repair. one has been in one of my gaming rigs, one has been in a file server (raid5) and 1-2 have been in SANs where it's inconsequential anyway (raid5 or better).
the older the drive, the better, imho. i have experience with 10+ year old servers (nt/novell/unix) with original hardware that are still running like champs. the bit of tension with those is always on a reboot or poweroff/cold boot >.> but i'm always pretty confident. the uncertainty with me comes in with the newer hardware.
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I am more confident with standalone servers then some of the virtualization server setups. Anytime a 10+ year old server has an issue though, its always a mystery if a part can even be found heh.
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I just checked the SMART info on two of my SSD drives that I had been running in RAID0 for the last 3 years. These are a pair of OCZ Vertex 120GB SSDs.
One has 42% Health and the other is 36% Health.
I really can't even guess how accurate these numbers are on the longevity of these SSD drives. But considering SSD firmware was still pretty immature, had no features like TRIM at first. I think a modern SSD should have a longer life span than these early Vertex drives do.
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