Rhylith_Galahad posted:

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You know, I don't think I ever played a civ game.

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Chickennugget101 posted:

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Rhylith_Galahad posted:

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You know, I don't think I ever played a civ game.

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You should give it a try. There are so many facets to the game(city management, troop management, worker/improvement management, diplomacy, expanding, which way to go up the technology tree(which is huge), the attitude of all the leaders(shaka is an ass, ghandi is a pussy), and the list goes on and on).

I spent a lot of time lurking over at civfanatics and watching/reading other's let's plays. There's a lot of little things that you'd have never thought of if you didn't watch someone else do it(like when to whip with slavery).

http://forums.civfanatics.com/

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Rhylith_Galahad posted:

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You know, I don't think I ever played a civ game.

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Amurdora posted:

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I play Civ 5 and Alpha Centauri. I wish they would come up with a system to make the hard difficulties actually difficult rather than just increase the production rate and other cheats for the NPCs. Otherwise they are awesome games.

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Elkad posted:

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Post a save you are having trouble with. Preferably the initial (4000BC) save as well.

I win Monarch regularly, and Immortal if I put some effort into it.

Or if you go post on civfanatics in the strategy forum, you'll get a few dozen posters who are all better than me. I play so little single-player that I don't have things like peaceweights for various leaders memorized. And there are hordes of games with details the whole way to read about.



Winning past Prince just takes a few things. Build more workers. Learn to love the whip. Stop building wonders. Specialize a couple cities.

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Chickennugget101 posted:

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The game is very confusing.. but most of that stuff is just for when you want to move up in difficulty. On lower difficulties you can just spam warriors and win Plus, it's turn-based, so you have plenty of time to think about your turn.. not like playing SC2 where some gosu korean can do 300 actions per minute and beat you before you build your first SCV.

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Chickennugget101 posted:

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http://www.youtube.com/user/GetDaved

Watch that guy's Let's Play for Civ4. I learned a lot doing it.. but the games last forever(this guy can win in like 1-2 hours.. but I've spent 10+ hours on one game).

And frankie, my micro/macro skills just wont get any better. They're good enough that I can own pretty hard with micro intensive heroes in HoN/dota.. but that's about it. When it comes to macroing a 4 expansion zerg base.. I'm just too white.

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Chickennugget101 posted:

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I've used hamachi to play civ4 with other people.. it takes so long though

And frankie, I'm usually a fan of peaceful strategies as well. You'll just want to do some good diplomacy as well. Share a religion with your neighbors is the easiest way.. Once you learn the leader's personalities, you'll realize which will/wont declare war, which ones will love if you if trade with them(tech whores(pacal,mansa etc), which ones just wont talk to you ever(just whores(shaka,toku, etc), and which ones only like you if you're their religion(religious whores(isabella etc).

And just use beyond the sword xpac, the other clients are just if you want to play older versions.

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Chickennugget101 posted:

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Well I think I watched too much competitive play.. and when last hitting I constantly move around instead of just holding position.

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Zavitz posted:

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No the technique you're referring to is known as animation cancelling or orb walking. It's completely necessary early in the game when you're commonly chasing a person while trying to kill them, since they won't just turn around fight you. Otherwise it's still useable on some spells, but later on it's not required since you'll typically attack faster than is possible to come ahead by ani cancelling.

Edit: On some heroes it is painful to not do it though, first hero that comes to mind is Sand Wraith for Hon. And pretty much any range hero.

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Chickennugget101 posted:

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Zavitz posted:

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No the technique you're referring to is known as animation cancelling or orb walking. It's completely necessary early in the game when you're commonly chasing a person while trying to kill them, since they won't just turn around fight you. Otherwise it's still useable on some spells, but later on it's not required since you'll typically attack faster than is possible to come ahead by ani cancelling.

Edit: On some heroes it is painful to not do it though, first hero that comes to mind is Sand Wraith for Hon. And pretty much any range hero.

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I know, I play way too much HoN :\ my roommate has a boner for the game, and makes me play it way too much. I probably should be in the 1800 bracket, but I'm stuck in the 1650s because I drink too much any play

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Zavitz posted:

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Chickennugget101 posted:

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Zavitz posted:

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No the technique you're referring to is known as animation cancelling or orb walking. It's completely necessary early in the game when you're commonly chasing a person while trying to kill them, since they won't just turn around fight you. Otherwise it's still useable on some spells, but later on it's not required since you'll typically attack faster than is possible to come ahead by ani cancelling.

Edit: On some heroes it is painful to not do it though, first hero that comes to mind is Sand Wraith for Hon. And pretty much any range hero.

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I know, I play way too much HoN :\ my roommate has a boner for the game, and makes me play it way too much. I probably should be in the 1800 bracket, but I'm stuck in the 1650s because I drink too much any play

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S2 makes some of the most retarded heroes ever so I haven't been playing.

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