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I'm watching Queen of the Damned and feeling disappointed all over again.
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That book was AMAZING!
I have been disappointed in ALL book to movie crossovers.
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The Dark is Rising. They took a brilliantly written book about a boy living in England in the 50's or 60's (they dont say exactly when) with a big family, learning that he has mystical powers and is part of an ancient circle of the Light, and that he will have to fight the powers of the Dark. And re-wrote it to be a modern-day story about a whiny emo teen in America, changed the characters so much they werent even recognizable as the characters in the book any more, and basically re-wrote half the plot. I cried when i saw the trailer, just thinking that a whole generation of kids were going to associate this absolute dross with the title "The Dark is Rising", instead of Susan Cooper's award-winning books.
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I'm disappointed you don't post here more often.
Hurt, even
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kigaro posted:
I'm watching Queen of the Damned and feeling disappointed all over again.
I was originally pissed about the movie as they fooked everything up from the story, even simple stuff like who made Lestat (which was magnus, not marius)
but if you let all that stuff go it was a pretty decent flick.
Much better than the fruity twighlight movies that ruined the whole vamp genre.
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There have been so many bad ones.
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Dune was pretty terrible.
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My wife says the Eragon film was a travesty.
I always thought the Eaters of the Dead movie was hugely disappointing.
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EbonDragon posted:
I'm disappointed you don't post here more often.
Hurt, even
I'm here now.
Eragon was a piece of garbage. I don't think they could have done worse but I read somewhere that Paolini got a nice movie check and took his sister to disneyland.
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The return of the king.
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my kid saw the Eragon movie then read the books.
he loves to read, surely didn't get that from his father, and said it was better in book form BUT, the is still annoyed they never came out with the second movie.
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There have been so many bad ones.
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Dungeons and Dragons.
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Doom the movie
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Dune was pretty terrible.
banned.
Bork_the_orc posted:
My wife says the Eragon film was a travesty.
Those books were travesties...and I think the movie captured that
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The return of the king.
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I don't think Doom was a book. The movie did make me want to cry though.
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all of them
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I don't think Doom was a book. The movie did make me want to cry though.
no but it's friday so I allowed myself some flexibility.
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DunesVladHarkonnen posted:
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Dune was pretty terrible.
banned.
You read the books and actually liked that movie?!
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I'd like a see a Dune remake.
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Gor. So horrible. Books weren't that great, but the movie was absolute unwatchable by any standard shiz.
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-Ronsac- posted:
DunesVladHarkonnen posted:
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Dune was pretty terrible.
banned.
You read the books and actually liked that movie?!
The original was not good (lol @ the voiceboxes that kill). I loved Stilgar's line "MMMMMMMMMM. Shaiiiii halooood" and it has Patrick Stewert as Gurney, that's pretty hilarious. And the eyebrows on the Mentants! OMG epic.
Actually, I think as a B movie. There is a place in my heart for it.
The Mini-Series was a lot better.
And it was a joke 
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I'd like a see a Dune remake.
yes plz
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The Sci-Fi channel did a mini-series remake of Dune. It was pretty good.
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Eragon was absolutely horrid. But the book wasn't that great either so its really hard to condemn them there.....
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kigaro posted:
I'd like a see a Dune remake.
It's in the making. The director of Taken and From Paris with Love is heading it up rumor has it.
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I win this thread. You people don't know what you are talking about. I have seen all of those movies, none are as bad as the one I identified. Stream it on netflix, you won't get through 5 minutes.
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I win this thread. You people don't know what you are talking about. I have seen all of those movies, none are as bad as the one I identified. Stream it on netflix, you won't get through 5 minutes.
On a scale of 1 - 10 the first few Gor books were at best a 4 and get worse further into the series. The movie was a 0.
The return of the king as a book is a 10 and the movie at best is a 4.
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The original was not good (lol @ the voiceboxes that kill). I loved Stilgar's line "MMMMMMMMMM. Shaiiiii halooood" and it has Patrick Stewert as Gurney, that's pretty hilarious. And the eyebrows on the Mentants! OMG epic.
Actually, I think as a B movie. There is a place in my heart for it.
I dont know why but that bit always gets a giggle out of me 
Now i know what i'll be watching this weekend. Havent seen this movie in AGES!
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Ungabhunga posted:
JD_HOGG posted:
I win this thread. You people don't know what you are talking about. I have seen all of those movies, none are as bad as the one I identified. Stream it on netflix, you won't get through 5 minutes.
On a scale of 1 - 10 the first few Gor books were at best a 4 and get worse further into the series. The movie was a 0.
The return of the king as a book is a 10 and the movie at best is a 4.
You do the math.
Impossible to divide by 0. As I say, I WIN THREAD!!! 
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DunesVladHarkonnen posted:
The original was not good (lol @ the voiceboxes that kill). I loved Stilgar's line "MMMMMMMMMM. Shaiiiii halooood" and it has Patrick Stewert as Gurney, that's pretty hilarious. And the eyebrows on the Mentants! OMG epic.
Actually, I think as a B movie. There is a place in my heart for it.
I dont know why but that bit always gets a giggle out of me
Now i know what i'll be watching this weekend. Havent seen this movie in AGES!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld2DMsyy0go
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Someone once made me a .wav of that. I lost it (most unfortunately). But for awhile it was a sound on my computer...for...bootup? I can't recall now.
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I think Hitchhikers Guide pissed me off the most.
_Alexandra_ posted:
I have been disappointed in ALL book to movie crossovers.
I thought they adapted the Harry Potter books pretty well, and Shawshank Redemption was pretty true to the book as well. Mostly I agree though, I almost always hate the movie after reading the book.
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Eragon. The movie was absolutely awful compared to the books.
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I liked Queen of the Damned, mostly because Aaliyah was in it and she was friggin HOT! R.I.P. Aaliyah...
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Bourne series...F&** it all to hell. Bastards.
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The Sci-Fi channel did a mini-series remake of Dune. It was pretty good.
Soooooooooooooo much better than the movie
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I liked Queen of the Damned, mostly because Aaliyah was in it and she was friggin HOT! R.I.P. Aaliyah...
That scene in the club... I'd turn in my pink card and hit it all night.
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Eragon.
Not because the book was some great piece of literature, but that the movie was just that bad. Also, despite being a cheap rip-off of a lot of other great stories, Eragon ripped off really good stories...
A lot of Stephen King's books got horrible movies... but then again, some of his movies are amongst my favorites ever. *shrug*
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I liked Queen of the Damned, mostly because Aaliyah was in it and she was friggin HOT! R.I.P. Aaliyah...
That scene in the club... I'd turn in my pink card and hit it all night.
wow, thems some powerful words 
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I'm watching Queen of the Damned and feeling disappointed all over again.
I was originally pissed about the movie as they fooked everything up from the story, even simple stuff like who made Lestat (which was magnus, not marius)
but if you let all that stuff go it was a pretty decent flick.
Much better than the fruity twighlight movies that ruined the whole vamp genre.
Yeah it is much better when vampires are twice as gay in fishnets singing like the douche from Korn 
One of the worst movies I have ever seen, and I didn't read the book. That one girl who died who is in it is hot though, so it was worth a single watching
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Lokkie_the_Fierce posted:
ikkoikki posted:
I liked Queen of the Damned, mostly because Aaliyah was in it and she was friggin HOT! R.I.P. Aaliyah...
That scene in the club... I'd turn in my pink card and hit it all night.
wow, thems some powerful words
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I liked Battlefield Earth but the movie is one of the all time losers.
Hitchhikers Guide was pretty lame too in movie form.
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[quote=ikkoikki]I liked Queen of the Damned, mostly because Aaliyah was in it and she was friggin HOT! R.I.P. Aaliyah...
That scene in the club... I'd turn in my pink card and hit it all night.
wow, thems some powerful words
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Crafty_ac2 posted:
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[quote=ikkoikki]I liked Queen of the Damned, mostly because Aaliyah was in it and she was friggin HOT! R.I.P. Aaliyah...
That scene in the club... I'd turn in my pink card and hit it all night.
wow, thems some powerful words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-aB4v5aTT8 [/quote]
240p resolution ruins that. But I could watch her gyrate for hours. She had some fantastic abs.
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Battlefield Earth
Starship Troopers
Dune.. I give it a pass. I'd love to see a really serious 21st century stab at it.
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Starship Troopers. Had to see it, what a waste of money.
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Any Stephen King book
Shawshank
The Green Mile
The Mist
You lose, sir.
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Itab posted:
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Any Stephen King book
Shawshank
The Green Mile
The Mist
You lose, sir.
Stand By Me
Storm of the Century
Fire Starter
The Shining
The Running Man
Misery
Dolores Claiborne
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Onslaught. posted:
Itab posted:
Brandun posted:
Any Stephen King book
Shawshank
The Green Mile
The Mist
You lose, sir.
Stand By Me
Storm of the Century
Fire Starter
The Shining
The Running Man
Misery
Dolores Claiborne
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The running man was Steven king?
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Itab posted:
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[quote=Brandun]Any Stephen King book
Shawshank
The Green Mile
The Mist
You lose, sir.
Stand By Me
Storm of the Century
Fire Starter
The Shining
The Running Man
Misery
Dolores Claiborne
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The running man was Steven king?[/quote]
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yep under the pseudonym Richard Bachman.
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What about IT, that was Stephen King. That movie is a cult classic.
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What about IT, that was Stephen King. That movie is a cult classic.
Cult classic yes, but it's also a horrible movie and a horrible cross over...
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Itab posted:
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Itab posted:
[quote=Brandun]Any Stephen King book
Shawshank
The Green Mile
The Mist
You lose, sir.
Stand By Me
Storm of the Century
Fire Starter
The Shining
The Running Man
Misery
Dolores Claiborne
The Shining?
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what's wrong with The Shining?!?
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nothing
it's one of the best Stephen King movies ever made
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Starship Troopers
WHAT!?
Maybe my favorite B-movie of all time. Love that show. Can (and have) watched it 100 times.
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DunesVladHarkonnen posted:
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Starship Troopers
WHAT!?
Maybe my favorite B-movie of all time. Love that show. Can (and have) watched it 100 times.
I hope it is for the boobies and not the story line 
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rabbitslayer posted:
DunesVladHarkonnen posted:
Annanova posted:
Starship Troopers
WHAT!?
Maybe my favorite B-movie of all time. Love that show. Can (and have) watched it 100 times.
I hope it is for the boobies and not the story line
It's for the one-liners, the absolute ridiculousness of it, the fake blood that is so bad it's hilarious.
And NPH. Can't hate on NPH.
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the original Robert Heinlein book is STILL one of the great sci-fi classics. the movie? they could have just changed the name of the movie to BUG HUNT, changed all the names of the characters, places, and ships, made the same movie, and no one would have been able to guess that it was supposed to have been taken from the book.
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Annanova's second choice, battlefield earth- the book was terrible, and the movie has got to be the WORST piece of garbage ever made.
DunesVladHarkonnen posted:
Annanova posted:
Starship Troopers
WHAT!?
Maybe my favorite B-movie of all time. Love that show. Can (and have) watched it 100 times.
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the original Robert Heinlein book is STILL one of the great sci-fi classics. the movie? they could have just changed the name of the movie to BUG HUNT, changed all the names of the characters, places, and ships, made the same movie, and no one would have been able to guess that it was supposed to have been taken from the book.
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Annanova's second choice, battlefield earth- the book was terrible, and the movie has got to be the WORST piece of garbage ever made.
DunesVladHarkonnen posted:
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Starship Troopers
WHAT!?
Maybe my favorite B-movie of all time. Love that show. Can (and have) watched it 100 times.
Have you read the book?
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yes. i have read both starship troopers and battlefield earth, more than once. the book starship troopers is still one of my favorite reads. it was probably the book that first got me interested in science fiction. battlefield earth, not so much. the first half isn't actually to bad. the second half reads like it was written by committee just to push the page count up. but that is a common problem with L. Ron's sci-fi books. just look at the mission earth series sometime. 10 books, each one close to 1000 pages long, read like they were wrote by 4-5 different people.
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the original Robert Heinlein book is STILL one of the great sci-fi classics. the movie? they could have just changed the name of the movie to BUG HUNT, changed all the names of the characters, places, and ships, made the same movie, and no one would have been able to guess that it was supposed to have been taken from the book.
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Annanova's second choice, battlefield earth- the book was terrible, and the movie has got to be the WORST piece of garbage ever made.
DunesVladHarkonnen posted:
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Starship Troopers
WHAT!?
Maybe my favorite B-movie of all time. Love that show. Can (and have) watched it 100 times.
Have you read the book?[/quote]
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The return of the king.
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Percy Jackson & the Olympians: The Lightning Thief
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The running Man by king (Richard Bachman) - I do not even know where they got the idea of what the movie was, but it was no where near the book.
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Starship Troopers
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Terminius_Est posted:
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the original Robert Heinlein book is STILL one of the great sci-fi classics. the movie? they could have just changed the name of the movie to BUG HUNT, changed all the names of the characters, places, and ships, made the same movie, and no one would have been able to guess that it was supposed to have been taken from the book.
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Annanova's second choice, battlefield earth- the book was terrible, and the movie has got to be the WORST piece of garbage ever made.
DunesVladHarkonnen posted:
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Starship Troopers
WHAT!?
Maybe my favorite B-movie of all time. Love that show. Can (and have) watched it 100 times.
Have you read the book?[/quote]
Actually no. I heard its even close to the same thing as the book. But the movie is good on its own.
That's like saying The Count of Monte Cristo was a bad movie because it completely changes the end (the point) of the book. That movie is still entertaining on its own as an interpretAtion even though Dumas writes a much more violent and cold book whereas the movie has a happy finish.
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Starship Troopers is hardly a great science fiction classic. It's not even a great Heinlein novel.
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What about IT, that was Stephen King. That movie is a cult classic.
IT was the book where Stephen caught the disease known as "Diarrhea of the Pen". I haven't read much from him since.
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Queen of the Damned for me. The book was epic and the movie should have resulted in the producer and director being hanged.
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DunesVladHarkonnen posted:
Terminius_Est posted:
uglydwarf posted:
the original Robert Heinlein book is STILL one of the great sci-fi classics. the movie? they could have just changed the name of the movie to BUG HUNT, changed all the names of the characters, places, and ships, made the same movie, and no one would have been able to guess that it was supposed to have been taken from the book.
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Annanova's second choice, battlefield earth- the book was terrible, and the movie has got to be the WORST piece of garbage ever made.
[quote=DunesVladHarkonnen][quote=Annanova]
Starship Troopers
WHAT!?
Maybe my favorite B-movie of all time. Love that show. Can (and have) watched it 100 times.
Have you read the book?[/quote]
Actually no. I heard its even close to the same thing as the book. But the movie is good on its own.
That's like saying The Count of Monte Cristo was a bad movie because it completely changes the end (the point) of the book. That movie is still entertaining on its own as an interpretAtion even though Dumas writes a much more violent and cold book whereas the movie has a happy finish.[/quote]
No, it's not at all like the book. They kept the names and the aliens and the war but that's all.
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No, it's not at all like the book. They kept the names and the aliens and the war but that's all.
My understanding is the book is about totalitarian government and youth indoctrination (primarily) and is a social-political commentary on such.
The movie barely touches on that, and it's about young, good looking people, slaying monsters.
Should have just called it 'Bugs' or something
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No, it's not at all like the book. They kept the names and the aliens and the war but that's all.
My understanding is the book is about totalitarian government and youth indoctrination (primarily) and is a social-political commentary on such.
The movie barely touches on that, and it's about young, good looking people, slaying monsters.
Should have just called it 'Bugs' or something
Totalitarian government? Hardly.
Go read the book.
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I think Hitchhikers Guide pissed me off the most.
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I have been disappointed in ALL book to movie crossovers.
I thought they adapted the Harry Potter books pretty well, and Shawshank Redemption was pretty true to the book as well. Mostly I agree though, I almost always hate the movie after reading the book.
Watch the BBC version of HG. The movie sucked ass.
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the original Robert Heinlein book is STILL one of the great sci-fi classics. the movie? they could have just changed the name of the movie to BUG HUNT, changed all the names of the characters, places, and ships, made the same movie, and no one would have been able to guess that it was supposed to have been taken from the book.
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Annanova's second choice, battlefield earth- the book was terrible, and the movie has got to be the WORST piece of garbage ever made.
DunesVladHarkonnen posted:
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Starship Troopers
WHAT!?
Maybe my favorite B-movie of all time. Love that show. Can (and have) watched it 100 times.
Battlefield was horrible sci-fi, of course it was written by L. Ron "Trapped in the Closet" Hubbard, lol.
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i think, of all the books i've read and then seen the movie for, two towers pissed me off the most. i still don't understand the decision to change faromir so greatly. complete 180 on his personality and what he did when he found out about the ring for NO reason. i don't get it and it really pissed me off.
i also think the harry potter movies after chamber of secrets progressively got worse (mostly because the books got longer and they kept changing directors.) to the point of being unwatchably bad to me.
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sounds like someone has been listening to much to left wing college literature teachers. read the book. decide for yourself.
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No, it's not at all like the book. They kept the names and the aliens and the war but that's all.
My understanding is the book is about totalitarian government and youth indoctrination (primarily) and is a social-political commentary on such.
The movie barely touches on that, and it's about young, good looking people, slaying monsters.
Should have just called it 'Bugs' or something
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i think, of all the books i've read and then seen the movie for, two towers pissed me off the most. i still don't understand the decision to change faromir so greatly. complete 180 on his personality and what he did when he found out about the ring for NO reason. i don't get it and it really pissed me off.
i also think the harry potter movies after chamber of secrets progressively got worse (mostly because the books got longer and they kept changing directors.) to the point of being unwatchably bad to me.
There were lots of things in LotR that should and could have been done better...but none of them are BAD movies. And they would have had to have been 5 hours long to have been good adaptations of the books...so I don't think it's fair to count them...The books themselves are fairly long and cover a LOT of material...I just hope to God they don't screw up The Hobbit, because I will seriously consider hurting someone if they do it badly.
and I though the harry potter movies were all pretty good too. They definitely left out a lot of stuff that shouldn't have been...I can't think of any examples in particular, I just remember after I read the books (which I did after the first five or so movies had already been released) there was a lot of stuff I wish had been in them....but in general, still good movies.
there aren't a lot of books I've read which have been turned into movies...I read most of The Golden Compass, and it had a fair amount in it that was missing...but I can't comment on it too much, because I got bored with the book and stopped reading it.
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You guys just don't know awful... the Dragonlance movie was done in He-Man style animation... So take my childhood memories of after school cartoon, and mix that with what is at least a pre-teen storyline... just the scene of Tika's boobs bouncing all over the screen at the Inn at the beginning of the book made me feel all kinds of wrong to be watching it!
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Eragon and Dreamcatcher were pretty bad.
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nothing
it's one of the best Stephen King movies ever made
Overpicky Moment, here: It is a Stephen King story but The Shining is Stanley Kubrick movie.
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/runs off to read the book
Okay, this has to be an April 1 thing, right? *Nobody* here does what I tell them to do.
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you are right. nobody does what you tell them to do. he was doing what I told him to do.
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/runs off to read the book
Okay, this has to be an April 1 thing, right? *Nobody* here does what I tell them to do.
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Imagine my relief.
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Bourne series...F&** it all to hell. Bastards.
The first one did ok iirc, but when they killed marie it kinda ruined it. I still liked the movies though.
I really was disappointed with The Hunger Games. I felt like they left a lot out in the translation, not to mention the way the majority of it was filmed. I think I could have held a camera steadier than they did.
I'm both excited and scared for the visual edition of The Dark Tower series. It's one of my favorite reads and I really hope they don't screw it up.
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I don't think Doom was a book. The movie did make me want to cry though.
Made me LOL so hard....dunno why.
lol
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DunesVladHarkonnen posted:
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Starship Troopers
WHAT!?
Maybe my favorite B-movie of all time. Love that show. Can (and have) watched it 100 times.
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The Golden Compass turned one of the book villains into a movie hero, and it combined a couple of other characters into nonsensical trash. I doubt it was the *worst* ever, but it was pretty bad. At least they left the most unwatchable scene for last.
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Caoilin posted:
i think, of all the books i've read and then seen the movie for, two towers pissed me off the most. i still don't understand the decision to change faromir so greatly. complete 180 on his personality and what he did when he found out about the ring for NO reason. i don't get it and it really pissed me off.
i also think the harry potter movies after chamber of secrets progressively got worse (mostly because the books got longer and they kept changing directors.) to the point of being unwatchably bad to me.
There were lots of things in LotR that should and could have been done better...but none of them are BAD movies. And they would have had to have been 5 hours long to have been good adaptations of the books...so I don't think it's fair to count them...The books themselves are fairly long and cover a LOT of material...I just hope to God they don't screw up The Hobbit, because I will seriously consider hurting someone if they do it badly.
and I though the harry potter movies were all pretty good too. They definitely left out a lot of stuff that shouldn't have been...I can't think of any examples in particular, I just remember after I read the books (which I did after the first five or so movies had already been released) there was a lot of stuff I wish had been in them....but in general, still good movies.
there aren't a lot of books I've read which have been turned into movies...I read most of The Golden Compass, and it had a fair amount in it that was missing...but I can't comment on it too much, because I got bored with the book and stopped reading it.
uhm.. i didn't say they were bad movies? i just felt that the EXTREME change to one of the most noble men in the book pushed it over into being one of the worst translations i've ever seen. i don't watch many movies of books i've read. i always hate them. and i absolutely loathed two towers because of the faromir thing.
jezza, i've seen that dragonlance cartoon and i agree with you 100%. i was SO BAD. i couldn't even watch more than 10 minutes of it. 
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