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I still trying to figure out where tablets reside in the grand scheme of computing. My wife is enamoured with the idea of getting an iPad and is desperately trying to justify using it for her work. I have neither tried to disuade her or encourage her. I have been dropping little tidbits of information for her to check out but I dont know if she is really looking into the info. My wife is no spring chicken. We are both well into the primes of our lives. She travels almost every week and does own a Nook Tablet (less than 3 months old) which she uses for book reading but not much else.
I know that many of you have tablets and I would like to know what you use them for and if that use is business related, how you use them?
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I still trying to figure out where tablets reside in the grand scheme of computing. My wife is enamoured with the idea of getting an iPad and is desperately trying to justify using it for her work. I have neither tried to disuade her or encourage her. I have been dropping little tidbits of information for her to check out but I dont know if she is really looking into the info. My wife and I are not kids. We are both well into the primes of our lives. She travels almost every week and does own a Nook Tablet (less than 3 months old) which she uses for book reading but not much else.I know she sees other travelers with iPads and I think she feels it has some special ability beyond her Nook that makes it superior and thus the reason for her desire.
I know that many of you have tablets and I would like to know what you use them for and if that use is business related, how you use them?
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if she travels every week, entertainment value she can get on airports and planes will be enough reason for her to purchase the ipad IMO.
Nook tablet ereader or nook color? if you root nook color, she can get similar effect as ipad.
tbh, I can't seem to do much work on my tablet unless it is writing a short email that can be done with my phone. If I were to use any tablet for extensive work, I will need a keyboard attachment option.
If her work is similar to tour guides/sales that needs internet on the run for their job to load up orders and other things, getting 3G on it would be worth it.
lastly, what phone does she own?
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She had a nook eReader that she lost (forgot it on a plane) and we replaced it with the Nook tablet, not Nook Color. It is a tablet.
She performs audits which require a lot of note taking. As far as entertainment is concerned she spend the on ground time catching up with her work and her in air time she spends either sleeping or reading with her Nook Tablet.
I hate to see her spend $600 on something she "thinks" she can use for business only to find out it nothing more than an expensive version of her Nook Tablet.
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I haven't really found a good use for a tablet in a work environment. I know people try taking notes on tablets, but that is such an awkward experience, I find pen and paper far superior in speed and accuracy. I really haven't come up with anything that my laptop isn't really better for at work.
At home the tablet is a great reading and content consumption device. I browse the web a lot with it. Read Twitter and different news apps. Read manga and sometimes ebooks (tend to like my eink device more for long book reading). And watch YouTube and quick videos.
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Does Nook Tablet has proper app store on it now?
If you just look at the big picture
anyway, if the nook tablet has the full android capability, ipad won't do much more rooted nook other than having access to better apps and bigger screen
if you think you can take notes as fast as one writes on ipad, she won't.
if she really wants an ipad and money is issue, look into getting ipad 2 instead of hot ipad 3. I never used ipad2, but even ipad 1 seems to be on par with my galaxy tablet unless one wants to run unreal engine on it.
If she needs 3G for her work, than she will need ipad/galaxy/xoom/etc with data plan from either Verizon or AT&T
there are apps that allows her to remote desktop into her computer if she has internet connect, but that is available on nook too (might have to root it)
Get her a netbook if she wants a portable working computer IMO
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Does she have a blackberry, android, or iphone? If she owns a Macbook and iphone, it probably will help her work better than nook tot.
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I manage a global team and travel frequently. The name of my game is good communication and access to information. I have found my iPad to be invaluable in both these areas. I spend the majority of my days reviewing emails, attending Webex meetings, editing business proposals and technical documents, and providing customers with training and tech materials. Additionally, I also conduct technical training to groups using PowerPoint presentations.
I have found that I can do ALL of this, easily and quickly, with my iPad.
* The email is obvious, my iPad is an instant-on device so I can check and reply virtually instantly anywhere with 3G/4G/Wi-Fi access. I use Outlook almost exclusively to manage my time and since iOS Mail, iCalendar, and iOS Contacts sync perfectly with our Exchange server, I am ALWAYS up to date.
* Webex. Cisco made an excellent app allowing me to attend any meeting with NO loss of functionality anywhere with 3G/4G/Wi-Fi access.
* Editing documents. Now, I will be the first to say that I do NOT like creating content on an iPad. Yes, it's possible with a keyboard and I have certainly done it while on an airplane, but it is not my preference. However, lets not overlook what I just said. Even though I prefer not to, I have done so meaning this is yet another thing your iPad lets you do! In the few cases I have done so, it was of significant importance to my work. Now, what I do far more often is to make minor edits to documents based upon a personal meeting with a customer. These frequent meetings tend to result in discovering minor (sometimes major) efficiencies so immediately after these meetings I can make the edits and get them off to my Tech Writers to get the document revised and back on the street. This ability to make changes to corporate documents while still in the field gives my company the agile edge we are famous for.
* DropBox. Between DropBox access (one of the first apps you SHOULD load on your iPad) and access to our companies SharePoint library, I have every single document I need at my finger tips. This allows me to keep my customers happy by ensuring they have the very latest in tech documentation no matter where I happen to be.
* PowerPoint training. I frequently provide this type training to groups ranging from 5-200 people. While I create my presentations at home on my computer, my iPad allows me to make changes while on the road. My business is EXTREMELY dynamic so the ability to incorporate current changes into training materials and tech documentation is absolutely vital! It is a common theme for me to get an email with a new change an hour before a scheduled presentation. I simply make the edit in my iPad and am ready to go. I even carry a cable that allows me to give my presentation right off my iPad and have done so many times. As long as they have a working projector, I am ready at the drop of a hat to give virtually any training my customers can possibly need.
* TeamViewer. This is the ultimate wildcard. This is the second app you should load on your iPad! This is by far the best remote control app out there and gives me full control and access to any computer I need. My corporate desktop, my desktop at home, my laptop back in my hotel room, even production servers!
When the iPad first came out I was a bit skeptical. I had a feeling it would prove useful at work but my purchase decision was really made by its ability to deliver digital entertainment content. I figured the ability to watch movies, videos, listen to music, surf the web while on travel would make it useful. After purchasing it and integrating it into my business arsenal I find it absolutely invaluable. When I travel, I take my laptop and iPad. The laptop remains in my room and only gets used for serious content creation and gaming. My iPad goes everywhere with me and serves all my travel business needs. Gone are the days of needing a seat near a power receptacle and waiting for my laptop to boot up. Now, I simply have access to everything I need with no hassles.
Now, not every job is the same so it should be obvious that some will lend themselves more to tablet use than others. But, I do get a chuckle out of all the people (None here, mind you) that constantly try and tell me that my iPad is nothing more than a status symbol and brings nothing to the table of corporate America. My advice? Do NOT allow the lack of creativity and imagination of others to influence your decision making process. If you, or your wife, THINK you can integrate it into your working process then my guess is you probably can.
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We have an Ipad 2 and a netbook at home. Id take the netbook any day for most business use, keyboard input is just too much of a hassle with the Ipad, but it is great for info access. Some of the newer netbooks have good resolution, and some pretty impressive battery life.
If an intended major use is a lot of note taking, I suspect she'd find the Ipad frustrating for that
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My group manages mobile devices. We currently have 2 ipads that we are testing with a few directors. So far the ipad has been a novelty for us. It's not good at taking notes, users don't use it for editing documents, they pretty much use it to check email and entertainment.
Now what I want us to try, but I doubt we will because of money, is cisco has a tablet coming out (if it's not out already it's been a while since Ive checked on it) that you use a a VM View connection device.
So pretty much instead of having a Clear cube, or wyse box that connects a user to their virtual PC, you have this tablet that docks, then when you go to a meeting you undock and have your VM on your tablet to take to your meeting.
I don't know how it works, but IMO that's the only way our company will spend money on a tablet.
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* PowerPoint training. I frequently provide this type training to groups ranging from 5-200 people. While I create my presentations at home on my computer, my iPad allows me to make changes while on the road. My business is EXTREMELY dynamic so the ability to incorporate current changes into training materials and tech documentation is absolutely vital! It is a common theme for me to get an email with a new change an hour before a scheduled presentation. I simply make the edit in my iPad and am ready to go. I even carry a cable that allows me to give my presentation right off my iPad and have done so many times. As long as they have a working projector, I am ready at the drop of a hat to give virtually any training my customers can possibly need.
I wasnt aware that Apple products played well with Microsoft products. Do you need a translater of sorts or do you have an Apple version of PowerPoint installed on your iPad?
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* TeamViewer. This is the ultimate wildcard. This is the second app you should load on your iPad! This is by far the best remote control app out there and gives me full control and access to any computer I need. My corporate desktop, my desktop at home, my laptop back in my hotel room, even production servers!
I have used TeamViewer many times when assisting my father with his compter issues but I thought you needed someone at the other end to assign a session number and then give the password. How does that work with the iPad with you on one end and no one on the other end?
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The iPads usefulness is extremely dependent upon what you do.
For example, my wife wanted an iPad for Christmas, and kept telling me it would make her job so much easier. She has her own business and does website design.
The thing is, the iPad is limited to the app store, and the app store does not have the programs she would typically use on her iMac at home.
So in her case, she would only use it for email, web & scheduling purposes, which does not justify a $600 expense.
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I haven't really found a good use for a tablet in a work environment. I know people try taking notes on tablets, but that is such an awkward experience, I find pen and paper far superior in speed and accuracy.
That's my concern. I'm a surveyor (I report on the condition of houses) and for the simpler valuation tasks (say 2 page reports) my company is about to dish out tablets as a replacement for handwritten site notes. They're not intended for more detailed survey reports (say 30-50 pages), but even so I would much prefer to scribble a few notes on a printed set of site notes!
The company sees advantages from the data storage point of view, and also from the secretarial aspect as much of the stuff we fill in on the tablet will auto-appear in the report to client thereby saving typing time, but really it is the clients (national mortgage lenders) that are driving this.
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Mortalis, you can setup Teamviewer for unattended access. It is in the options of the teamviewer client installed on the machine. I simply login to my teamveiwer app on my Android Tablet, or even the web login at Teamviewer's site and access all the machines I need too. :)
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Mortalis, I use Documents To Go for editing my Office files (sometimes I also do it natively from my desktop being controlled from Teamviewer as well). Like Nakal, I have Teamviewer configured for unattended access on all of my machines. You simply create an account in Teamviewer, then provide those credentials to your machines and you have access to any machine you have configured that is on and has internet access. This is a very useful feature as it allows you to remotely reboot a machine and get access to it again as soon as it is logged back on.
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That Teamviewer info is great. The next time I have to log into my father's computer I will do that.
Thanks for that.
Thanks also to everyone that has contributed. It appears that as long as you are fairly computer savvy you may be able to jockey stuff around to serve your purposes. My wife is not computer illiterate by a long shot but she is not computer savvy either.
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For work the usefulness of tablets really shines in retail and the medical industry. They're usefulness fades in other areas, but doesn't go away altogether. I store spreadsheets, powerpoints, and docs on my galaxy tab at my office for easy access. There are also apps that make note taking (with a stylus) as easy as taking notes with pen and paper. (Some apps are better than others for this...it just takes some research.)
Aside from all that, just the ability to read books, watch movies, play games, and surf the net make it worth it.
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*edit* Just to put my 2 cents in on the office app, I use QuickOffice for the easy integration with office 2010 docs, Google docs, Dropbox, box, and about 10 other cloud services.
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so what app do you use to take notes?
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I use two note taking apps. PenSupremacy, which is just a regular note taking app with no frills, but it takes keyboard text and has a few good options. The one I use for business notes is called FreeNote. It is set up as regular lined notebook paper with a section at the bottom for stylus input. It automatically moves the notes you write onto the lined page at the top as you reach the edge and start a new line so you can just continuously write and the app takes care of the rest.
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For IT, the iPad is a fantastic tool if you make use of the proper apps . The Citrix ICA and Cisco WebEx apps in particular are spectacular. The name escapes me but there is an RDP app as well that does a great job of scaling the experience to the iPad.
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I still trying to figure out where tablets reside in the grand scheme of computing. My wife is enamoured with the idea of getting an iPad and is desperately trying to justify using it for her work. I have neither tried to disuade her or encourage her. I have been dropping little tidbits of information for her to check out but I dont know if she is really looking into the info. My wife is no spring chicken. We are both well into the primes of our lives. She travels almost every week and does own a Nook Tablet (less than 3 months old) which she uses for book reading but not much else.
I know that many of you have tablets and I would like to know what you use them for and if that use is business related, how you use them?
Here is my tale:
I bought an ipad 1 and took it back within 14 days to get my money back because it was too heavy, thick and the resolution sucked.
I bought an ipad 2 and took it back within 14 days to get my money back
because the resolution sucked.
I considered buying an Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 but the resolution sucked and the Tegra GPU in it isn't that hot.
I bought a New Ipad on release date and my 2 week return policy runs out tomorrow (friday) but I will NOT be taking it back.
Now, what have I used my ipad for in the last two weeks since I bought it:
-Weather Apps
-MyFitnessPal food tracking
-Sitting on the sofa on the main floor of my house to check out the web sites I frequent daily as it is perfect for this, especially when you end up with huge articles that need a lot of reading time as MMO-Champions had with the Pandoria information released last week.
-Some news site apps like National Post, Business Weekly, IGN and a few other ones I check out daily.
-A few quick Google Maps lookups for my parents.
Interestingly enough, I have played Zero Games on it. Why? I have a PC, 360 and PS3 for gaming and have no interest in crappy touch screen games that sucks.
THIS is what I use it for. I could do all of the above with a laptop but a laptop needs to be plugged in or the battery dies fast, needs a mouse not to suck, requires more space, etc, etc, etc. In short, it does what my ipad does but less conveniently.
Now, is the ipad for everybody? Nope. It is a MEDIA CONSUMPTION DEVICE first and for most. However it has some excellent applications that can help you with your day to day life (Weather, food trackers, recipe books, etc).
The secret is finding a good use for it and it will rock.
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Thanks for that Mithan
I am really getting the idea that it is 85% "novelty" item, 10% business capable unit and 5% still looking for something value added to do. My wife is not a techno-geek and it sounds like that is a tablet's niche market besides sounding "cool" to have.
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Ok, so after much interrogation I got long and short of her reasoning for wanting an iPad. Her I.T. department pushes updates to their client laptops and it seems that the latest update to Adobe Reader, X, does not work with her laptop running XP and the AIAG PDF documents and their security schema. She seems to think that if she had an iPad she could get around this issue plus be able to take the PDF docs she has purchased with her on the floor of the subject client being audited for refencing.
I finally acquiesced and took my BestBuy account card using the 18months no interest option and bought her an iPad 2 16GB WiFi. She spent a couple hours yesterday getting apps and exploring with the unit only to find that the AIAG has not converted their PDF docs to tablet format and will not be doing so until the summer of this year. Also, her I.T. department which she has petitioned with her supervisor's backing has downgraded her Adobe reader from X to 9.0 or something and now all her AIAG PDF's work again.
I just love tossing $460 into the wind to let it fall wherever it may.
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for stylus input.
What type of stylus allows you to interact with the iPad touchscreen?
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for stylus input.
What type of stylus allows you to interact with the iPad touchscreen?
Any capacitive stylus will work. You can find them at BestBuy for $15.
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has not converted their PDF docs to tablet format
Out of curiosity, what exactly do you mean here? PDF is platform-independent format and the iPad reads it extremely well. The only issues I can think of as they specifically relate to the iPad are you don't get the nifty little epub "page turning" feature (tapping the edge of a page, instead you use the arrows) and in-document note taking isn't widely supported yet. The former is hardly a deal-breaker while the latter may be more of an issue depending upon individual needs.
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As Mithan mentions media consumption is a big focus of tablets. My Xoom sits under my main monitors in its charger/dock with a small ball speaker hooked up to it. From there it does Netflix, NAS streaming, Pandora, etc without tying up one of my main monitors or making me look away from my work. It's also easy to move around so I will grab it and move it into the kitchen or somewhere else in the house and keep watching/listening to what is on without interruption. I have a few pocket games like Puzzle Quest (pretty sure I have that game on 4-5 platforms now, lol) to burn time if I am bored but other than that don't really use it as a gaming platform... too many other options that do it better including portables like PSP/DS.
I do use it for other things though...
It is great for pubs. I was using my first gen Nook for that but it handles PDFs so poorly and is black and white so isn't ideal. This, on the other hand, I can load up with my manuals, white papers, graphs, etc and have all of them at my fingertips no matter where I am.
It is also handy for simple computing... email, browsing, calculations/conversions, scheduling/alarms, etc but I wouldn't expect any super productivity stuff out of it. I'd never generate a production document on it but for jotting stuff on the go or quick edits it is handy.
Simple tracking/recording type stuff... food/calorie tracking, inventory control, or whatever else you might want to be able to do all the time or on the go. Something like inventory/equipment control is a perfect example since most of them are able to process bar codes.
Portable tools, mine doubles as a wireless sniffer/diagnostic tool which is very handy.
Really though a vast majority of it is media/toy but it has great potential as a specialized portable device.
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Tai-Daishar_MT posted:
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has not converted their PDF docs to tablet format
Out of curiosity, what exactly do you mean here? PDF is platform-independent format and the iPad reads it extremely well. The only issues I can think of as they specifically relate to the iPad are you don't get the nifty little epub "page turning" feature (tapping the edge of a page, instead you use the arrows) and in-document note taking isn't widely supported yet. The former is hardly a deal-breaker while the latter may be more of an issue depending upon individual needs.
All I can tell you is this is what they told the I.T. guys when the AIAG was queried about using the ePubs on tablets. Frankly, I dont think the people at AIAG know what they are talking about and have an issue with their security reacting with Adobe Reader X. All I know is that when my wife reverts down a version with Adobe Reader she no longer has an issue viewing the documents.
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It sounds like they may be confusing things as they mentioned epubs and pdf in the same sentence. That is an apples/oranges issue as we are talking different formats entirely. If they are convinced they need to use epubs, then that certainly is something that would have to be converted. If they simply remain with pdf's then it is a non-issue as those are read by iPad with no issue. On that note, the version of Adobe on the computer does not affect how it is read by the iPad at all. The easiest way to get your pdf to the iPad is to simply email it to yourself and then touch the attachment and select Open in iBooks. This whole issue really is puzzling as pdf's and the iPad are an excellent fit and something I have been using since I got my first iPad.
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Tai-Daishar_MT posted:
It sounds like they may be confusing things as they mentioned epubs and pdf in the same sentence. That is an apples/oranges issue as we are talking different formats entirely. If they are convinced they need to use epubs, then that certainly is something that would have to be converted. If they simply remain with pdf's then it is a non-issue as those are read by iPad with no issue. On that note, the version of Adobe on the computer does not affect how it is read by the iPad at all. The easiest way to get your pdf to the iPad is to simply email it to yourself and then touch the attachment and select Open in iBooks. This whole issue really is puzzling as pdf's and the iPad are an excellent fit and something I have been using since I got my first iPad.
But if it is a secure PDF you are limited in how/where you can open it which can be a real pain in the ass.
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for stylus input.
What type of stylus allows you to interact with the iPad touchscreen?
Any capacitive stylus will work. You can find them at BestBuy for $15.
I've tried a few different kinds. My least favorite was the Bamboo stylus (the brand, not the material) and my favorite is the BoxWave stylus.
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We get PDFs from the EPA at my work that require an add on in Adobe.
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vn_jurojin posted:
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[quote=vn_jurojin]for stylus input.
What type of stylus allows you to interact with the iPad touchscreen?
Any capacitive stylus will work. You can find them at BestBuy for $15.
vn_jurojin posted:
I've tried a few different kinds. My least favorite was the Bamboo stylus (the brand, not the material) and my favorite is the BoxWave stylus.
I just ordered 3 of the BoxWare stylii from amazon @ $8/pc
Thanks for the link and the info.
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Ok, so after much interrogation I got long and short of her reasoning for wanting an iPad. Her I.T. department pushes updates to their client laptops and it seems that the latest update to Adobe Reader, X, does not work with her laptop running XP and the AIAG PDF documents and their security schema. She seems to think that if she had an iPad she could get around this issue plus be able to take the PDF docs she has purchased with her on the floor of the subject client being audited for refencing.
I finally acquiesced and took my BestBuy account card using the 18months no interest option and bought her an iPad 2 16GB WiFi. She spent a couple hours yesterday getting apps and exploring with the unit only to find that the AIAG has not converted their PDF docs to tablet format and will not be doing so until the summer of this year. Also, her I.T. department which she has petitioned with her supervisor's backing has downgraded her Adobe reader from X to 9.0 or something and now all her AIAG PDF's work again.
I just love tossing $460 into the wind to let it fall wherever it may.
For PDF's, the new ipad is much better due to the higher resolution available.
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vn_jurojin posted:
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Any capacitive stylus will work. You can find them at BestBuy for $15.
I've tried a few different kinds. My least favorite was the Bamboo stylus (the brand, not the material) and my favorite is the BoxWave stylus.
The Boxwave is what I use as well. Well it's what I have... I almost never find a use for it though. 
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I agree, for the vast majority of people a stylus isn't needed, but can be a perk. For me though, it's become integral to what I do as a developer. I jot down file paths, line numbers, tasks to do for a particular coding session, etc. (Also good for the quick honey do list when my wife calls.)
*edit* I may be a bit off on this, but once a person starts using the stylus for things, after a while it actually seems to become more natural and makes life easier.
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does those stylus work for galaxy too?
I want one to use for Draw Something 
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I have a galaxy tab, so yes.
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