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Topic: if RG3 won the Heisman, why is Luck "No. 1 NFL prospect"

tsingtao2 Posts: 15,770 Registered: Oct 10, '00 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 15,298 User ID: 48,832	Subject: if RG3 won the Heisman, why is Luck "No. 1 NFL prospect"
	I don't keep up with either of those guys teams/conference, so not really up on their play or anything, but you would think that if RG3 won the Heisman over Luck, both QB's, why would the #2 be a better prospect? -----signature----- May the bridges I burn light my way Isolated in defiance, I will remain May the bridges I burn light my way I will never comply, I'll forever defy
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Caledric Title: Pew! Pew! Pew! Posts: 22,743 Registered: Dec 22, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 21,691 User ID: 570,169	Subject: if RG3 won the Heisman, why is Luck "No. 1 NFL prospect"
	Cause ESPN said so. -----signature----- Planetside 2 -- Outcasters "As One" Marmot BR 0 (waiting for beta!)
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OG_Loki Title: Pelvic Thrust Posts: 45,588 Registered: Jan 26, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 44,711 User ID: 632,990	Subject: if RG3 won the Heisman, why is Luck "No. 1 NFL prospect"
	RG3 had a better team around him offensively and put up better numbers on an easier schedule. -----signature----- http://unfatmyass.blogspot.com/
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tsingtao2 Posts: 15,770 Registered: Oct 10, '00 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 15,298 User ID: 48,832	Subject: if RG3 won the Heisman, why is Luck "No. 1 NFL prospect"
	Caledric posted: Cause ESPN said so. lol, great answer! I have seen several #12 LUCK jerseys here in Indy already. -----signature----- May the bridges I burn light my way Isolated in defiance, I will remain May the bridges I burn light my way I will never comply, I'll forever defy
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Sith_Mauler Posts: 24,642 Registered: Dec 21, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 24,438 User ID: 750,977	Subject: if RG3 won the Heisman, why is Luck "No. 1 NFL prospect"
	Heisman's dont really translate to nfl star power. Example look at the 2 OU qb's that won Heismans, neither one are playing in the NFL. Although one is the offensive coordinator at OU now. -----signature----- Well I ain't first class But I ain't white trash I'm wild and a little crazy too I have seen a lot of things in my life time. That is why I walk the line I walk.
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Cuttlery Title: Wanna see what you missed? Posts: 76,924 Registered: Jan 9, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 72,785 User ID: 62,026	Subject: if RG3 won the Heisman, why is Luck "No. 1 NFL prospect"
	There is a huge huge huge difference between college and NFL. Being the number 1 anything in college doesnt equate to the number 1 anything in the NFL. Completely different systems. -----signature----- 0.o Bored and Useless
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Chogram Posts: 24,460 Registered: Aug 23, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 24,114 User ID: 338,955	Subject: if RG3 won the Heisman, why is Luck "No. 1 NFL prospect"
	Other than Cam Newton(and it's too early to say if he'll do that again)... Whose the last Heisman Trophy winner to have an NFL impact? Carson Palmer had two good years. Sam Bradford has been pretty mediocre. Ricky Williams in 1998? -----signature----- (none)
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Maleraka Title: Postponing the inevitable Posts: 8,973 Registered: Sep 24, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 8,379 User ID: 720,083	Subject: if RG3 won the Heisman, why is Luck "No. 1 NFL prospect"
	http://bleacherreport.com/articles/112364-where-have-all-the-heisman-trophy-winners-gone-in-the-nfl Have you ever been watching your favorite college football or NFL team and wonder what ever happened to all those great Heisman Trophy winners? Ever wonder what happened to great college players like Eric Crouch, Jason White, Chris Weinke, or Ron Dayne? Well since 1992 Heisman Trophy winners have struggled mightily in the NFL. Some have never played a down in the NFL. No Heisman Trophy winner since 1992 has won a Super Bowl, or been named conference, or NFL player of the year. Also, only four players have played in a Pro Bowl. Just two players have been named rookie of the year and taken All-Pro honors. So now you have to be asking, "What did happen to all those guys then?" Well, now I will tell you all about them in this slideshow. -----signature----- Twitter: @minibucho Xbox Live: minibucho
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Sith_Mauler Posts: 24,642 Registered: Dec 21, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 24,438 User ID: 750,977	Subject: if RG3 won the Heisman, why is Luck "No. 1 NFL prospect"
	Chogram posted: Other than Cam Newton(and it's too early to say if he'll do that again)... Whose the last Heisman Trophy winner to have an NFL impact? Carson Palmer had two good years. Sam Bradford has been pretty mediocre. Ricky Williams in 1998? Sam Bradford problem is the Rams, he gets sacked and hit all the time. I am surprised he hasnt taken more injuries. Hopefully Fisher fixes the Rams. Not that I root for the Rams, I just like Sam Bradford as a person and as a player. -----signature----- Well I ain't first class But I ain't white trash I'm wild and a little crazy too I have seen a lot of things in my life time. That is why I walk the line I walk.
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Cuttlery Title: Wanna see what you missed? Posts: 76,924 Registered: Jan 9, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 72,785 User ID: 62,026	Subject: if RG3 won the Heisman, why is Luck "No. 1 NFL prospect"
	Look at the list of heisman winners and how crappy they've been for the most part... Like 3/4th of these guys had average careers at best. 1981 Marcus Allen USC RB Sr. 1,797 1982 Herschel Walker Georgia RB Jr. 1,926 1983 Mike Rozier Nebraska RB Sr. 1,801 1984 Doug Flutie Boston College QB Sr. 2,240 1985 Bo Jackson Auburn RB Sr. 1,509 1986 Vinny Testaverde Miami (Fla) QB Sr. 2,213 1987 Tim Brown Notre Dame WR Sr. 1,442 1988 Barry Sanders Oklahoma State RB Jr. 1,878 1989 Andre Ware Houston QB Jr. 1,073 1990 Ty Detmer Brigham Young QB Jr. 1,482 1991 Desmond Howard Michigan WR Jr. 2,077 1992 Gino Torretta Miami (Fla) QB Sr. 1,400 1993 Charlie Ward Florida State QB Sr. 2,310 1994 Rashaan Salaam Colorado RB Jr. 1,743 1995 Eddie George Ohio State RB Sr. 1,460 1996 Danny Wuerffel Florida QB Sr. 1,363 1997 Charles Woodson Michigan CB Jr. 1,815 1998 Ricky Williams Texas RB Sr. 2,355 1999 Ron Dayne Wisconsin RB Sr. 2,042 2000 Chris Weinke Florida State QB Sr. 1,628 2001 Eric Crouch Nebraska QB Sr. 770 2002 Carson Palmer USC QB Sr. 1,328 2003 Jason White Oklahoma QB Jr. 1,481 2004 Matt Leinart USC QB Jr. 1,325 2006 Troy Smith Ohio State QB Sr. 2,540 2007 Tim Tebow Florida QB Sop 1,957 2008 Sam Bradford Oklahoma QB Sop 1,726 2009 Mark Ingram Alabama RB Sop 1,304 2010 Cam Newton Auburn QB Sr. 2,263 2011 Robert Griffin III Baylor University QB Jr. 1,687 -----signature----- 0.o Bored and Useless
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-Abysmal- Posts: 21,891 Registered: Dec 20, '00 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 21,218 User ID: 59,638	Subject: if RG3 won the Heisman, why is Luck "No. 1 NFL prospect"
	ya, it doesn't translate at all. PLUS, RG3 didn't face much in the form of Defense. then again, neither did Luck, well, except for his 2 losses of course. -----signature----- Now i LIVESTRONG GO PATRIOTS Yankees SUCK! I wish AC looked better, I miss it I love you forever Jamie
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OG_Loki Title: Pelvic Thrust Posts: 45,588 Registered: Jan 26, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 44,711 User ID: 632,990	Subject: if RG3 won the Heisman, why is Luck "No. 1 NFL prospect"
	I think, if he can stay healthy, RG3 will be an exception to the Heisman failures. -----signature----- http://unfatmyass.blogspot.com/
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JD_HOGG Posts: 19,975 Registered: Mar 18, '08 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 19,893 User ID: 1,285,011	Subject: if RG3 won the Heisman, why is Luck "No. 1 NFL prospect"
	OG_Loki posted: I think, if he can stay healthy, RG3 will be an exception to the Heisman failures. Possibly so. He has a canon for an arm and exceptional athletic ability. -----signature----- (none)
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purplehugmonkey Posts: 12,787 Registered: May 16, '05 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 12,662 User ID: 1,049,746	Subject: if RG3 won the Heisman, why is Luck "No. 1 NFL prospect"
	I think it's debated since RG3 has better overall stats, but generally it's because Luck ran pro-style offense which is more common in the NFL and RG3 ran shotgun and now will be expected to adapt to pro-style. -----signature----- College women are as unstable as free radicals. Thanks college. -Anebriated He was a jedi before he was a father and everyone knows how much jedi love to chop off hands. -Kigaro
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notmforce2k Posts: 96,434 Registered: Oct 9, '11 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 2,235 User ID: 1,430,866	Subject: if RG3 won the Heisman, why is Luck "No. 1 NFL prospect"
	Mechanics, intangibles, style of offense, decision making, physical measurables.... There are a lot of things to consider when a kid transitions to the pros. -----signature----- (none)
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