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WTH is wrong with you democrats.....
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WTH is wrong with you democrats.....
Gerrymandering.
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The fact that the Democrats would dump Kucinich makes it perfectly clear the Democrats didn't elect Bush III by accident.
Obviously real change is the last thing they want.
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He had to run in a new district against a veteran politician where less than half of the people in his new district had ever been able to vote for him before....and much more than half had voted for her numerous times.
It was an obvious ploy to get rid of him, gerrymandering at it's most blatant and disgusting limit. He didn't help things by being a douche about it though.
I like Kuciniches policies a lot, him as a person however? Not so much.
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Voodoo-Dahl posted:
Desnoxvu posted:
WTH is wrong with you democrats.....
Gerrymandering.
Well it is very disappointing. Even though I work on republican slates I had a lot of admiration for Kucinich as he stood up to the powers that be. I think you fools even lost Grayson. Damn you dems suck. We may just kick your ass in the rest of the elections besides the presidency if RP loses the republican bid.
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Ptilk posted:
He had to run in a new district against a veteran politician where less than half of the people in his new district had ever been able to vote for him before....and much more than half had voted for her numerous times.
It was an obvious ploy to get rid of him, gerrymandering at it's most blatant and disgusting limit. He didn't help things by being a douche about it though.
I like Kuciniches policies a lot, him as a person however? Not so much.
Because he is Croat, I bet
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Dems are gay!
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It's funny Freedomnoxvu is a proud Republican now, when there's only one Republican he can be proud of.
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paulg_68 posted:
The fact that the Democrats would dump Kucinich makes it perfectly clear the Democrats didn't elect Bush III by accident.
Obviously real change is the last thing they want.
[ ] Understands the concept of gerrymandering
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I've never heard of gerrymandering being used to replace someone with someone else of the same party. The concept doesn't even make sense unless the party wants the guy out.
The Democrats there could have picked Kucinich. They didn't.
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I've never heard of gerrymandering being used to replace someone with someone else of the same party. The concept doesn't even make sense unless the party wants the guy out.
Ohio lost two seats from the 2010 Census so someone was going to have to lose. 
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Ohio lost two congressional seats due to changes in population.
Republicans control the state, so when they redrew the congressional boundaries...they of course eliminated two districts that had long been held by Democrats. In Kuciniches case, his new district was made up of a majority of what used to be in his opponents old district.
By doing this, the GOP in Ohio insured that one of them would lose, and it would almost certainly be Kucinich. Kaptur, who beat him in the primary is solidly progressive and a huge backer of labor just like Kucinich. She is not as strong an advocate against use of military force by the US, though she too voted against the Iraq war.
In the end it came down to the fact that many more people in the new district had been voting for Marcy Kaptur for years, than had been voting for Kucinich. So he lost.
Just like the gerrymandering carried out by Republicans intended him to do.
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Elections have consequences.
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Well it really sucks that the Dem party lost Kucinich. He was whitehouse material.
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I would vote for Kucinich for President in a heart beat. His views on government and it's role are very close to mine on most subjects. Closer than any other elected official I can think of.
That said, he isn't White House material. To be that he would have to be able to gain the support of a sizable segment of the voting population.....and that isn't going to happen in either his or my lifetime.
People are idiots and don't want to hear the truth, they want to be told their illusions are real.
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I would vote for Kucinich for President in a heart beat. His views on government and it's role are very close to mine on most subjects. Closer than any other elected official I can think of.
That said, he isn't White House material. To be that he would have to be able to gain the support of a sizable segment of the voting population.....and that isn't going to happen in either his or my lifetime.
People are idiots and don't want to hear the truth, they want to be told their illusions are real.
That said you are probably lazy and not involved in the democrats primary process...
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I live in eastern Tennessee, what Democratic primary process?
And you of all people should know that the primary process is a farce. Kabuki theater for the masses. I support candidates I approve of nationwide as it's more important to win a close battle in Vermont than rail against the idiots who are going to win 80% of the vote in Tennessee.
I do that too though of course.
You certainly are a smug little ponce since you became a Dr. Paul worshiper aren't you? 
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I live in eastern Tennessee, what Democratic primary process?
And you of all people should know that the primary process is a farce. Kabuki theater for the masses. I support candidates I approve of nationwide as it's more important to win a close battle in Vermont than rail against the idiots who are going to win 80% of the vote in Tennessee.
I do that too though of course.
You certainly are a smug little ponce since you became a Dr. Paul worshiper aren't you?
You are such a little tool 
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Scarne posted:
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I've never heard of gerrymandering being used to replace someone with someone else of the same party. The concept doesn't even make sense unless the party wants the guy out.
Ohio lost two seats from the 2010 Census so someone was going to have to lose.
And Democrats didn't want to keep Kucinich because they prefer their Democrats more like Bush III.
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Marcy Kaptur is a solid liberal, just about as far to the left of anything Bushlike as it is possible to find in elected office.
Your "opinion" on this issue is both stupid and stupider. As usual.
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