Fozzie_Bear posted:

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maybe because 25 secret service agents aren't going to be able to fight off a company sized element of irregular drug kingpin soldiers. heck, 25 people is less than a quarter of the number of corpses they found in the latest mass grave down there. I'm sure the president would rather NOT have his child held ransom by a drug lord?

just sayin here.

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Sith_Mauler posted:

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Fozzie_Bear posted:

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maybe because 25 secret service agents aren't going to be able to fight off a company sized element of irregular drug kingpin soldiers. heck, 25 people is less than a quarter of the number of corpses they found in the latest mass grave down there. I'm sure the president would rather NOT have his child held ransom by a drug lord?

just sayin here.

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this country is broke, and the president thinks it ok to send his child on a vacation that costs runs into the millions.

I am betting they took a C-17 to haul all the armored suvs and vehicles and a smaller jet was need to haul that group of people to Mexico, then the fact they probably had to rent the whole hotel,also never mind the per diem and salaries of all the staff involved.

just so a teenager gets to go to mexico with her friends.

president needs to learn to lead by example.

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Cuttlery posted:

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Sith_Mauler posted:

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Fozzie_Bear posted:

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maybe because 25 secret service agents aren't going to be able to fight off a company sized element of irregular drug kingpin soldiers. heck, 25 people is less than a quarter of the number of corpses they found in the latest mass grave down there. I'm sure the president would rather NOT have his child held ransom by a drug lord?

just sayin here.

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this country is broke, and the president thinks it ok to send his child on a vacation that costs runs into the millions.

I am betting they took a C-17 to haul all the armored suvs and vehicles and a smaller jet was need to haul that group of people to Mexico, then the fact they probably had to rent the whole hotel,also never mind the per diem and salaries of all the staff involved.

just so a teenager gets to go to mexico with her friends.

president needs to learn to lead by example.

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uhh lol

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Sith_Mauler posted:

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so you support him for wasting millions of dollars of tax dollars just so a teenager can go to mexico for a week?

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jeune posted:

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It sounds like it was part of a school trip.

I do not think the presidents kid should be denied the ability to do what every other kid can because of who their dad is and the risks involved.

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Cuttlery posted:

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Sith_Mauler posted:

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so you support him for wasting millions of dollars of tax dollars just so a teenager can go to mexico for a week?

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She should be afforded the same right to go to Mexico as the rest of her classmates. If they went to Disney for a week do you think it'd be any different.

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Sith_Mauler posted:

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Cuttlery posted:

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Sith_Mauler posted:

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so you support him for wasting millions of dollars of tax dollars just so a teenager can go to mexico for a week?

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She should be afforded the same right to go to Mexico as the rest of her classmates. If they went to Disney for a week do you think it'd be any different.

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its one thing when the parent pays for it, not me, not your neighbor,and not your coworkers.

and for crying out loud the state department has issued travel warnings about traveling to Mexico,Disney doesn't have travel warnings or have the requirement for taking a platoon of secret service agents.

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HeartView posted:

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You don't really understand how the secret service works, do you?

Did you know that the current GOP candidates for president are protected by the SS? They're not even in the office yet and they're wasting taxpayer dollars.

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jeune posted:

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Sith_Mauler posted:

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Cuttlery posted:

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[quote=Sith_Mauler]so you support him for wasting millions of dollars of tax dollars just so a teenager can go to mexico for a week?

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She should be afforded the same right to go to Mexico as the rest of her classmates. If they went to Disney for a week do you think it'd be any different.

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its one thing when the parent pays for it, not me, not your neighbor,and not your coworkers.

and for crying out loud the state department has issued travel warnings about traveling to Mexico,Disney doesn't have travel warnings or have the requirement for taking a platoon of secret service agents.

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HeartView posted:

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You don't really understand how the secret service works, do you?

Did you know that the current GOP candidates for president are protected by the SS? They're not even in the office yet and they're wasting taxpayer dollars.

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combat_mage_sc posted:

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HeartView posted:

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You don't really understand how the secret service works, do you?

Did you know that the current GOP candidates for president are protected by the SS? They're not even in the office yet and they're wasting taxpayer dollars.

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Only the winner of the primary gets SS protection.

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aon_mixed posted:

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Obama has his own money, you know... chances are that he funded the trip and paid the treasury from his own pocket.

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Sith_Mauler posted:

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they are at war with cartels 35,000+ people has died since 2008, that is more causalities than Iraq and Afghanistan combined.


25 agents need gear and armored suv's, plus they have support staff, that requires a C-17 or C-5 to haul all of it. also a smaller jet was probably used to transport the VIP because she was probably to good to ride in the back of a military cargo jet. now those jets have an air force crew that is flying them plus fuel and maintenance costs.

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jeune posted:

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Sith_Mauler posted:

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they are at war with cartels 35,000+ people has died since 2008, that is more causalities than Iraq and Afghanistan combined.


25 agents need gear and armored suv's, plus they have support staff, that requires a C-17 or C-5 to haul all of it. also a smaller jet was probably used to transport the VIP because she was probably to good to ride in the back of a military cargo jet. now those jets have an air force crew that is flying them plus fuel and maintenance costs.

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And you wonder why they are trying to keep their visit secret?

I highly doubt they are prancing around in a giant convo in a country infested with drug lords... they probably went very low-key with minimal security as to not make a scene with backup from Mexico.

They probably just really planned out the trip and have people set up strategically ready to act if something happens... the biggest thing they have is no one knows they are there... except now that people are outraged they are going to compromise the security of the first family.

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Sith_Mauler posted:

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Fozzie_Bear posted:

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maybe because 25 secret service agents aren't going to be able to fight off a company sized element of irregular drug kingpin soldiers. heck, 25 people is less than a quarter of the number of corpses they found in the latest mass grave down there. I'm sure the president would rather NOT have his child held ransom by a drug lord?

just sayin here.

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this country is broke, and the president thinks it ok to send his child on a vacation that costs runs into the millions.

I am betting they took a C-17 to haul all the armored suvs and vehicles and a smaller jet was need to haul that group of people to Mexico, then the fact they probably had to rent the whole hotel,also never mind the per diem and salaries of all the staff involved.

just so a teenager gets to go to mexico with her friends.

president needs to learn to lead by example.

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combat_mage_sc posted:

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Probably sent her their to get an abortion.

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HeartView posted:

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combat_mage_sc posted:

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HeartView posted:

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You don't really understand how the secret service works, do you?

Did you know that the current GOP candidates for president are protected by the SS? They're not even in the office yet and they're wasting taxpayer dollars.

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Only the winner of the primary gets SS protection.

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Not true. At least two of them are already getting SS protection (Romney and Santorum).

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Fozzie_Bear posted:

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and they show up when somebodys printing wampum with their laserprinter

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Nestor_II posted:

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His daughter basically got a $250,000 vacation with her friends and that is what sucks.

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aon_mixed posted:

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time to lighten this stupid boring thread up:

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OG_Loki posted:

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Oh my god, Sith is the worst

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Hawkson posted:

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aon_mixed posted:

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time to lighten this stupid boring thread up:

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This deserves the wall treatment.

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Sith_Mauler posted:

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Fozzie_Bear posted:

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maybe because 25 secret service agents aren't going to be able to fight off a company sized element of irregular drug kingpin soldiers. heck, 25 people is less than a quarter of the number of corpses they found in the latest mass grave down there. I'm sure the president would rather NOT have his child held ransom by a drug lord?

just sayin here.

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this country is broke, and the president thinks it ok to send his child on a vacation that costs runs into the millions.

I am betting they took a C-17 to haul all the armored suvs and vehicles and a smaller jet was need to haul that group of people to Mexico, then the fact they probably had to rent the whole hotel,also never mind the per diem and salaries of all the staff involved.

just so a teenager gets to go to mexico with her friends.

president needs to learn to lead by example.

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-Mithan- posted:

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It is a conspiracy I tell you.

They went to Mexico to get away from the coming Asteroid that is going to hit the northern hemisphere in the next 24 hours, killing everybody in the northern hemisphere.

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aon_mixed posted:

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Obama has his own money, you know... chances are that he funded the trip and paid the treasury from his own pocket.

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Bork_the_orc posted:

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-Mithan- posted:

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It is a conspiracy I tell you.

They went to Mexico to get away from the coming Asteroid that is going to hit the northern hemisphere in the next 24 hours, killing everybody in the northern hemisphere.

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But Mexico is in the northern hemisphere.

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Hawkson posted:

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aon_mixed posted:

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time to lighten this stupid boring thread up:

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This deserves the wall treatment.

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Myn_Darklighter posted:

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White House admits they asked media to pull the story

Kristina Schake, Communications Director to the First Lady:

From the beginning of the administration, the White House has asked news outlets not to report on or photograph the Obama children when they are not with their parents and there is no vital news interest. We have reminded outlets of this request in order to protect the privacy and security of these girls.

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Bat_Avenger posted:

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Myn_Darklighter posted:

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White House admits they asked media to pull the story

Kristina Schake, Communications Director to the First Lady:

From the beginning of the administration, the White House has asked news outlets not to report on or photograph the Obama children when they are not with their parents and there is no vital news interest. We have reminded outlets of this request in order to protect the privacy and security of these girls.

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i agree ... except when it comes to spending tax dollars to send their kids on a field trip. The news story is not the kids, but the misappropriation of tax payers money.

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Itab posted:

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Bat_Avenger posted:

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Myn_Darklighter posted:

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White House admits they asked media to pull the story

Kristina Schake, Communications Director to the First Lady:

From the beginning of the administration, the White House has asked news outlets not to report on or photograph the Obama children when they are not with their parents and there is no vital news interest. We have reminded outlets of this request in order to protect the privacy and security of these girls.

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i agree ... except when it comes to spending tax dollars to send their kids on a field trip. The news story is not the kids, but the misappropriation of tax payers money.

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The proof that Obama didn't pay for this out of pocket?

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Itab posted:

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Bat_Avenger posted:

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Myn_Darklighter posted:

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White House admits they asked media to pull the story

Kristina Schake, Communications Director to the First Lady:

From the beginning of the administration, the White House has asked news outlets not to report on or photograph the Obama children when they are not with their parents and there is no vital news interest. We have reminded outlets of this request in order to protect the privacy and security of these girls.

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i agree ... except when it comes to spending tax dollars to send their kids on a field trip. The news story is not the kids, but the misappropriation of tax payers money.

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The proof that Obama didn't pay for this out of pocket?

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