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As in, when an enemy cons red or blue or whatever. I believe it's short for "consider", but what MMO did the term come from?
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Never seen it used, myself.
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EQ1 is where I first encountered this mechanic, not sure if they originated it.
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One of the many early MUDs I would guess.
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'con' is short for reconnoiter.
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It didnt -- it was way back in text based muds. Pretty much every mud had a consider command -- beit diku merc or lp.
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Poit-Narf posted:
As in, when an enemy cons red or blue or whatever. I believe it's short for "consider", but what MMO did the term come from?
It was a command on a MUD, it would tell you whether or not you were likely to survive the encounter.
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Never heard of "con". Does anyone know where "mob" came from? I've heard it's short for "mobile object".
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ACX posted:
Never heard of "con". Does anyone know where "mob" came from? I've heard it's short for "mobile object".
mob
a crowd/group at a camp
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FineYoungCannibals posted:
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Never heard of "con". Does anyone know where "mob" came from? I've heard it's short for "mobile object".
mob
a crowd/group at a camp
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Yes but people use "mob" to refer to single targets.
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the only game i played where it was a frequently used term was ffxi. and in that game how tough the mob is was alot more important than most games so that might have been why it was more common there.
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http://www.mastma.com/Articles/mmo_consider_systems.htm
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Sgian_Dubh posted:
Never seen it used, myself.
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GrimTempest posted:
the only game i played where it was a frequently used term was ffxi. and in that game how tough the mob is was alot more important than most games so that might have been why it was more common there.
yeah i saw it there, and in daoc. not much outside of that though.. most games i played after them listed levels directly and i rarely see the term used now.
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It's for sure from MUDS
Still remember playing Red Dragon and Trade Wars
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I loved that my parents bought me my own phone line  they got tired of the signalling noises on the phone all the time
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Everquest had it first. The term originated from the command used for it which was /consider or /con.
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Dark_EternalFF posted:
Sgian_Dubh posted:
Never seen it used, myself.
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I like FYC's answer best, but the first time I saw it was EQ and it meant consider.
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Heard it a lot in DAOC from former EQ players.
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It existed long before Everquest. We had a consider system in Gemstone IV and Dragonrealms back before Any of the graphic MMOs existed. In Dragonrealms there was 2 commands to do it... you could Consider or Appraise your opponent, and depending on your appraisal skill it would tell you either nothing at all, or give you details right down to how much health it had, what its chances or hitting you were, what your chances of hitting it were, if you could skin it, any treasure it had on it etc..
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Def used it most in EQ though
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Caledric posted:
It existed long before Everquest. We had a consider system in Gemstone IV and Dragonrealms back before Any of the graphic MMOs existed. In Dragonrealms there was 2 commands to do it... you could Consider or Appraise your opponent, and depending on your appraisal skill it would tell you either nothing at all, or give you details right down to how much health it had, what its chances or hitting you were, what your chances of hitting it were, if you could skin it, any treasure it had on it etc..
I vaguely remember Dragonrealms and have heard of Gemstone.
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I always understood "mob" to mean "mobile".
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Con and Mobile both came from MUD's.
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A text-based MUD I played in the mid 1990's had a "consider" command. You used it to check your chances against an enemy.
> consider rabbit
- Your target is greatly weaker than you.
> consider bear
- Your target is moderately stronger than you.
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I remember it being used in EQ1 and DAoC only lol
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ACX posted:
Never heard of "con". Does anyone know where "mob" came from? I've heard it's short for "mobile object".
Monster or beast? 
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myxomatosis8 posted:
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Never heard of "con". Does anyone know where "mob" came from? I've heard it's short for "mobile object".
Monster or beast?
Once again... MUD's.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mob_(video_gaming)
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Island of Kesmai was the first MUD online back when CompUserve used to rape you by the baud rate per HOUR.
I don't remember if CON originated there but I know MOB did among many other things.
The Arcane Guild was the first online guild and when people joined it they would reroll to add TAG at the end of their name to show that they were a member. Hence, the term Guild Tag. Other guilds followed. The second was NAG (Non Arcane Guild).
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Thanks for the history lesson!
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We used it in DAoC all the time
Orange con mobs, red con mobs, purple con, green con, yellow con, blue con and grey con in a total drunk random order
Yellow con == same level as you
Orange con mobs were 1-3 or so (used to have a +), red con mobs were ++ and purple was +++
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We used it in DAoC all the time
Orange con mobs, red con mobs, purple con, green con, yellow con, blue con and grey con in a total drunk random order
Yellow con == same level as you
Orange con mobs were 1-3 or so (used to have a +), red con mobs were ++ and purple was +++
daoc was the first instance i heard it, never played EQ though.
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zarasaphire posted:
It's for sure from MUDS
Still remember playing Red Dragon and Trade Wars
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I loved that my parents bought me my own phone line they got tired of the signalling noises on the phone all the time
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OMG TRADE WARS!!! I feel SO old right now. I was also the highest level bard on my BBS's MajorMUD. (flex)
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EVE Online uses the NBSI method Not Blue Shoot It.
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Mob
An AI controlled monster. ‘Mob’ originally comes from the MUD era, where it was short for ‘mobile’, to differentiate monsters that would patrol a set of rooms as opposed to monsters which would stay in one place until killed.
Con or Check
The "Check" command can be found in the Command Menu that pops up when you select a target, or by using /check or CTRL+C. It allows you to view the level and equipment on other players, and gauge the strength of enemies.
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Nestor_II posted:
EVE Online uses the NBSI method Not Blue Shoot It.
If it's red, it's dead.
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Been playing way too much D&D. To me, Con will always mean Constitution
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I remember gemstone 3, I blew a lot of dough on that when they charged by the hour like whores.
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