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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17343034
Equal use for the Rich and Poor - no watering the lawn (do poor people have lawns?).
This and more as the decision making for your daily lives gets regimented more every day by the Gov.
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i dont understand people obsessing aboot their lawns
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I don't understand people who have a problem with governments regulating the use of limited resources.
You don't get to be a wasteful prick just because.
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Yes I do!
You don't like it, use less.
btw, only Catholics use the 'wastefull prick' term.
Pope a dope on a rope.
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Your link doesn't say what you think it does.
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The article talks generally about water problems and notes that England is starting rationing in the south April 5/2012 (for about 6 million people).
I thus think it does.
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Uh, England by definition isn't Eurozone. You know, because they don't use the Euro and all. It's also two lines at the end of a report where the European body involved actively criticizes the approach of those companies in imposing hosepipe bans.
They are also still allowed to use watering cans and buckets. You just can't turn on your hose. It is not rationing at all. It is a restriction on delivery.
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Uh, England by definition isn't Eurozone. You know, because they don't use the Euro and all.
Ridiculous response - they have drought happening all over the Western European area, and England is a Eurozone participant.
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No it isn't. 
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That is one time I dont mind...
This past summer when we had 100+ for like 60 days we had idiots watering their lawns at 2 or 3 in the afternoon, I think every one of them should have been ticketed daily.
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Yukishiro1 posted:
Uh, England by definition isn't Eurozone. You know, because they don't use the Euro and all.
Ridiculous response - they have drought happening all over the Western European area, and England is a Eurozone participant.
UK is EU MEMBER, not Eurozone participant.
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See, this is the problem: the free market should fix this by raising prices on water when the supply is low, but then proponents of the free market complain that the government isn't doing enough to keep vital limited resources affordable.
So instead of letting the market encourage people to use less, the people end up encouraging each other to use up their meager supply and as a society we say it's better to water the grass now than use those resources to sustain life (albeit poor life) in the future. Worse, it means we continue to careen towards depleting our resources at a faster and faster rate. The larger the subsidies get, the more important they become.
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Elocism posted:
i dont understand people obsessing aboot their lawns
I moved into a 60 year old home. It still has its 60 year old year centipede lawn that works just fine with barely any watering from me. All I have to do is kill off the weeds every couple years.
Sure, it isn't that ridiculous golf course greenery but... wtf do I care? I don't. I laugh every time I think about what the every-other-day sprinkler watering neighbors up the road are paying on their water bill. And trust me, in this city it is a LOT.
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That is one time I dont mind...
This past summer when we had 100+ for like 60 days we had idiots watering their lawns at 2 or 3 in the afternoon, I think every one of them should have been ticketed daily.
for watering their lawn, or for being stupid enough to throw millions of magnifying glasses onto their lawns each day, effectively causing more problems than they solved. F'ing tools. Water your lawn in the evening!
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our drought has officially broken but we were under extreme drought conditions for the last 10-12 years and water storage for the city dropped to <22% capacity. The government enforced water restrictions and everyone said, yeah we kinda need water to survive so it makes sense.
we've had average rainfall in this last year and water has gone back up over 60% and the government was going to lift restrictions and everyone said no, we have enough water so its fine. so we kept stage 3 water restrictions, our guidance is to only use 155 litres per person/day. cant use a hose to water the lawn or wash your car etc.
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Poor people dont have lawns. I dont
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I don't understand people who have a problem with governments regulating the use of limited resources.
You don't get to be a wasteful prick just because.
how is water a limited resource?
its renewable
theres more of it than all the people on the planet can possibley use in a single cycle.
theres more being created every day, thanks to global warming.
use as much as you want and stfu.
if you live in the desert, move. i have no sympathy for you in the same way i have no sympathy for those who built houses on a flood plain.
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And sweeney once again shows off his idiocy.
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i dont understand people obsessing aboot their lawns
I dopnt understand about people obsessing about water controls .... supply/demand and let the free market sort it out
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17343034
Equal use for the Rich and Poor - no watering the lawn (do poor people have lawns?).
This and more as the decision making for your daily lives gets regimented more every day by the Gov.
Mach Schell Mannegarm!
Don't think we will ever have problems with water in this country.. It's in overabundance, that law also has nothing to do with my nation.
and England isn't in the Euro Zone, so I'll drench my lawn as much as I please.
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we gotz da water come invade us!!
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See, this is the problem: the free market should fix this by raising prices on water when the supply is low
You, that is what should happen
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but then proponents of the free market complain that the government isn't doing enough to keep vital limited resources affordable..
I don;t see that at all .. want to clarify your source???
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I don't understand people who have a problem with governments regulating the use of limited resources.
Government does not have the legal authority ....
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I don't understand people who have a problem with governments regulating the use of limited resources.
Government does not have the legal authority ....
Yes, yes it has.. And it should. 
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Brother_Tempus posted:
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I don't understand people who have a problem with governments regulating the use of limited resources.
Government does not have the legal authority ....
Of course they have. The majority of the people gave them that authority.
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I don't understand people who have a problem with governments regulating the use of limited resources.
Government does not have the legal authority ....
Yes, yes it has.. And it should.
/e looks at Constitution ... /e see no mention of water or resources ... therefore , as usual, Manegram and Tych are wrong again
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Who owns the water then?
Goooooooooooooood.
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Who owns the water then?
Who ever owns the property rights .... also people can just put rain barrels on their property and that water would be theirs ...
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/e looks at Constitution ... /e see no mention of water or resources ... therefore , as usual, Manegram and Tych are wrong again
/e Looks at the thread ... /e see no mention of the US or constitution ... therefore , as usual, Brother_Tedious is wrong and seems to have no understanding of sovereign territories and that the discussion is about Europe and not the US.
I know your stupidity is profound but Sweden and Europe has a totally different set of Laws then you guys.
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Who owns the water then?
Who ever owns the property rights .... also people can just put rain barrels on their property and that water would be theirs ...
Including rivers and lakes? Can I own part of a river?
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Who owns the water then?
Who ever owns the property rights .... also people can just put rain barrels on their property and that water would be theirs ...
Including rivers and lakes? Can I own part of a river?
Yep but you have to follow the part you buy down.. which is tricky.
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They ration water in the states.
This is not new.
In the SW you have certain times of the day you are allowed to open irrigation canals so that you can water your land/crops.
It is fairly effective.
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I feel that membership in the European Union (EU) makes that group of countries a Eurozone.
IMO, the fact that Britain and EDenmark opted out of using the 'Euro' as state currency doesn't really change the overall economic ties that constitute the Eurozone.
Perhaps semantics - I think NOT!
OH, and piping fresh water from those with to those without is as feasible as, and probably more urgent than, pumping crude, and in all liklihood will happen.
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/e looks at Constitution ... /e see no mention of water or resources ... therefore , as usual, Manegram and Tych are wrong again
What the fuck does /e mean? Are you mentally ill?
Anyways the Constitution doesn't mention a lot of things. It can be changed.
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I feel that membership in the European Union (EU) makes that group of countries a Eurozone.
IMO, the fact that Britain and EDenmark opted out of using the 'Euro' as state currency doesn't really change the overall economic ties that constitute the Eurozone.
Perhaps semantics - I think NOT!
OH, and piping fresh water from those with to those without is as feasible as, and probably more urgent than, pumping crude, and in all liklihood will happen.
Heh... What you feel is irrelevant since it's in no way shape or form a fact.. Fact is that England IS NOT a member of the Eurozone, Sweden isn't either. That we are members of the European Union is immaterial.. So you are horribly undeniably wrong.
It does change the economic ties since we're not using the same currency, this is why we have members of the Eurozone and those who are not.
It's not even semantics, you're just extremely f'kin wrong and in your pigheaded way you're not letting go.
fact: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurozone
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurozone
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NuEM posted:
I don't think the US constitution applies to Europe.
the principles if the proper role of govrrnment do
good and services fall under the jurisdiction of the private sector
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Really? Says who? 
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smellymotor posted:
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Who owns the water then?
Who ever owns the property rights .... also people can just put rain barrels on their property and that water would be theirs ...
Including rivers and lakes? Can I own part of a river?
In the US you can, my father is a shareholder to a lake where his house is. He also is part-owner of a private dam that regulates the level of the lake
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[quote=Manegarm]..................It's not even semantics, you're just extremely f'kin wrong and in your pigheaded way you're not letting go......./[quote]
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/eurozone.asp#axzz1p6Dl6sdl
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Bobvillas posted:
They ration water in the states.
illegally
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It's okay, European politics are a bit much for you foreigners:
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Brother_Tempus posted:
NuEM posted:
I don't think the US constitution applies to Europe.
the principles if the proper role of govrrnment do
good and services fall under the jurisdiction of the private sector
The proper form of Government is what the people inacts, ie: our modus operandi is right for us.
And strategic resources are in the realm of government.. ie: water.
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[quote=Manegarm]..................It's not even semantics, you're just extremely f'kin wrong and in your pigheaded way you're not letting go......./[quote]
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/eurozone.asp#axzz1p6Dl6sdl
I sit corrected.
Well played either way, sir. Sticking to your guns is a Outpost motto..
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It's okay, European politics are a bit much for you foreigners:
Schengen is f'kin stupid and should be ripped apart..
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Btw when are you Swedes getting the Euro? And someone kick the Danes. Last year we forgot they're still living in the 19th century and didn't bring any Kroners which resulted in a small shock moment at the gas station.
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btw, only Catholics use the 'wastefull prick' term.
Yea, when school buses crash or little boys die of cancer.
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Btw when are you Swedes getting the Euro? And someone kick the Danes. Last year we forgot they're still living in the 19th century and didn't bring any Kroners which resulted in a small shock moment at the gas station.
That won't be happening anytime soon, the Swedish people have zero faith in the Euro and all those shitty backwards eastern and southern countries who keeps ruining the stability of the union.
Hell if we did have a vote on it today we'd probably exit.. Personally I want a Northern European union all of the Nordic countries, Germany, Netherlands, Austria, Poland.
But that won't happen.. It would be awesome!
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Their instability is the direct result of our trade imbalance. More Europe is the way to fix those problems.
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What if you bought bottled water and used that to water your lawn? If anything you are adding non-local water to the water table easing the drought.
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