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"Hey, I Worked Hard to Get What I Have!"
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So, mister rich person who clearly is not reading this, when we say you're "lucky," we're not saying you're lucky in the way that a lottery winner is lucky. We're saying that you're lucky if you were born in a time and place where the hard work you're good at (say, stock speculation) is valued over the hard work that other people are good at (say, landscaping, or poetry).
You can reply that if some other field paid more, you'd have just simply switched to it and been equally successful, due to your smarts and determination. You know, like how the smart and determined Michael Jordan was equally successful as a basketball player (six titles, $70 million a year) and baseball player (batted .202 in the minors) and team owner (his Charlotte Bobcats are currently 4-28).
Hmm ... wait a second. Man, it's almost like Michael's hard work and determination wouldn't have made him rich if he hadn't happened to have been born in the one place and one time in human history where a man could get rich throwing a rubber ball through a small metal hoop.
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Envy isn't a pretty thing.
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Well I'm happy for them. Hope they enjoy the gifts they were given and are happy
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Envy isn't a pretty thing.
So when I tell the smelly bums on the side of the road at local intersections, "GTF away from my car you smelly worthless bag of shit!" it's really because I envy them?
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Im not rich but i do really well. I work hard and my job is stressful.
But there is never a time i dont feel blessed to have the job i have. I appreciate my opportunity. I feel like a complete ahole if i complain to someone that doesnt have a job as nice as mine.
So many jobs are stressful, demeaning and demanding.. And if that wasnt bad enough they also dont pay well.
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Envy isn't a pretty thing.
hehe. That's Number 3 on the list...
"I think it's about envy. I think it's about class warfare. When you have a president encouraging the idea of dividing America based on the 99 percent versus one percent -- and those people who have been most successful will be in the one percent -- [it] is entirely inconsistent with the concept of one nation under God."
-- Mitt Romney
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Hell, let's look at the annual poll of the most admired people in America for 2011. There are 20 people on that list, and all 20 are rich enough to be in the "hated" 1 percent. I count four billionaires on that list, and another person who is a member of a billionaire family.
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That's because all of our fracking heroes are millionaires.
Hell, every Christmas we celebrate the tale of the wealthy Ebenezer Scrooge in A Christmas Carol. We hate him in the first part of the story, and then we love him by the end. Not because he gave away all of his wealth and became poor (he didn't), but because he stopped acting like a shithead. Do you get the incredibly subtle and nuanced message of that story?
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And when we hate people, it's always for the same reason: They refuse to acknowledge that their power brings with it any responsibility. It's why we hate bullies and dictators and supervillains. It's why we hate people who benefit hugely from society and then pretend like they're living on an island with a population of only them.
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Envy isn't a pretty thing.
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Well it depends on how you got rich, and what you did on your way there.
But yeah, life isn't fair.
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Ashmaele posted:
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Envy isn't a pretty thing.
So when I tell the smelly bums on the side of the road at local intersections, "GTF away from my car you smelly worthless bag of shit!" it's really because I envy them?
Okay I guess
Thats what you think envy is?
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Envy isn't a pretty thing.
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Envy
Anytime inequality or inequity is brought up, the "you're just jealous!!1" line always shows up. Usually by someone poor or solidly middle class. Sad, really.
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Compared to poor and homeless people middle class people are actually doing quite good. Its a matter of perspective.
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Sea_of_inK posted:
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Envy
Anytime inequality or inequity is brought up, the "you're just jealous!!1" line always shows up. Usually by someone poor or solidly middle class. Sad, really.
It may make you sad but that doesn't make it any less true.
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So it's okay to hate people that have more than you? Gotcha. I don't want to live my life with that poison in it. You guys can knock yourselves out then. I won't partake.
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paulg_68 posted:
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Envy
Anytime inequality or inequity is brought up, the "you're just jealous!!1" line always shows up. Usually by someone poor or solidly middle class. Sad, really.
It may make you sad but that doesn't make it any less true.
IKR! Every time, there it is, like clockwork. Some broke person defending tax cuts and welfare for the rich with the jealousy argument.
Do you get tired of self-pwning or does it feel good to you?
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Anytime envy is brought up, the you're defending rich people!!1" line always shows up. Usually by someone poor or solidly middle class. Sad, really.
I want the rich to pay their fair share just like you.
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What self pwn?
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Perhaps the article should have been 6 Things Defenders of the Rich shouldn't say. Seems to be the apologists are more upset about this kind of thing than actual rich folks are. Probably because a great number of them aren't stupid enough to say those 6 things.
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Why am I am apologist because I don't want to engage in envy like you? I want them to pay their fair share just like you, but because they don't make me /meltdown I am an apologist? It doesn't count unless I am seething with hatred for them.
Boy you guys are fucking warped. No wonder why you are all miserable people.
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paulg_68 posted:
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Envy isn't a pretty thing.
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Bigots get mad when you don't share their bigotry.
I don't defend rich people because they don't need defending. I mock bigots because they do need mocking.
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Trying to belittle the argument for a more egalitarian society with the jealousy argument is weak, especially when the problem if inequity is as blatant as it is. That's all it is really. An attempt to make it seem like one side is jealous mob of lazy peasants who want's free stuff because they're overcome with envy. It's a way of avoiding real issues.
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 And the OP was trying to address those issues? Really?
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So wait tick you dont think the rich pay their fair share?
To put it in numbers, according to the analysis, the top 1 percent of earners account for 20.3 percent of total personal income in the United States and pay 21.5 percent of all federal and state taxes. The middle 20 percent of households earn 11.6 percent of US income and pay 10.3 percent of taxes. The lowest 20 percent account for just 3.5 percent of income, and pay 2 percent of all taxes.
These numbers are for 2011. So from rich to lower class the rich are paying 2x more than us. But thats not fair?
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So wait tick you dont think the rich pay their fair share?
Yes mastboro they aren't paying their fair share.
Don't talk to me about taxes son. I do them for a living.
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Not to sound like a jerk or anything but when people say they arent paying a fair amount of taxes I'm not seeing where they are getting their numbers. Then again I'm not a financial expert or anything nor do I claim to know it all but I'd like to see how they aren't considered to be "paying their fair share"
Well thats great that you do taxes for a living. So does my aunt, and neither of you impress me. I dont care what you do for a living. Id just like to know how you propose that. Id just like to know how you come to that conclusion is all. Dont get your panties in a twist old man.
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Why do I need to show you how I got to my conclusion? We aren't have a debate. You asked my opinion. I gave it to you.
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the genius of the rich is that they got the poor middle class schlubs like Paul and Tych to fight for them. Brilliant and well done.
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Please show me where I am fighting for them. I am not. Do you have to be a twit constantly? This is the reason I have no problem laughing when others mock you. You can't even be honest.
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Please show me where I am fighting for them. I am not. Do you have to be a twit constantly? This is the reason I have no problem laughing when others mock you. You can't even be honest.
Right back at you. Mocking you for close to a decade never gets old.
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The more money you have, the less the value of a marginal dollar is.
If you are making 20k and make another 20k your standard of living skyrockets.
If you are making 200k and make another 20k your standard of living doesn't change appreciably.
In other words, a 20% tax rate represents a much larger diminishment in standard of living for a middle class person than for a rich person.
Taxes should be set so that they have a roughly equal impact on people of different economic brackets. To do that, taxes on the rich need to be significantly higher than taxes on the poor as a % value.
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The genius of the left is that while the masses of unwashed libs gnash teeth about the rich, the DNC somehow continues to get OWS and other idiots to vote for Obama and the left.
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Please show me where I am fighting for them. I am not. Do you have to be a twit constantly? This is the reason I have no problem laughing when others mock you. You can't even be honest.
Right back at you. Mocking you for close to a decade never gets old.
 Nice comeback. You can't show me a post where I am defending the rich can you?
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Well opinions are like aholes. Everyone has an opinion. But do the numbers support your opinion? Thats a little more interesting then your opinion.
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Nice comeback. You can't show me a post where I am defending the rich can you?
Like you say all the time...we are not here to debate. I expressed my opinion, so did you.
Also like you like to say...why would I care what you think and why would I do any work because you ask me to?
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Well opinions are like aholes. Everyone has an opinion.
If you don't want to know or don't care about my opinion then don't ask. Jesus Christ your are dumb as Poet.
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I see where your coming from yuki. I do.
I personally dont care how much money the rich make, I know they pay more than me, and I'm fine with that they pay twice what I pay if not more. Thats good enough for me personally. But I doubt raising their taxes would accomplish much. Why should the government get more money to blow? They cant balance what they have already why give them more?
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Well opinions are like aholes. Everyone has an opinion.
If you don't want to know or don't care about my opinion then don't ask. Jesus Christ your are dumb as Poet.
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Like you say all the time...we are not here to debate. I expressed my opinion, so did you.
Also like you like to say...why would I care what you think and why would I do any work because you ask me to?
You made an accusation dumbass.. one you can't support. So you are just a lair. I've called you that before for a reason. You get all incensed about it but you can't refute it.
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Like you say all the time...we are not here to debate. I expressed my opinion, so did you.
Also like you like to say...why would I care what you think and why would I do any work because you ask me to?
You made an accusation dumbass.. one you can't support. So you are just a lair. I've called you that before for a reason. You get all incensed about it but you can't refute it.
Like you say all the time, we arent here to debate. Why would I care?
That's so funny. You getting all emo.
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yup all emo. Your mocks are weak Poet.
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Nice comeback. You can't show me a post where I am defending the rich can you?
Like you say all the time...we are not here to debate. I expressed my opinion, so did you.
Also like you like to say...why would I care what you think and why would I do any work because you ask me to?
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"Special Snowflake" comment incoming in 5...4...3
You know it.
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You know it.
I like the emo version of Tych....so sensitive.
Like huggable even.
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Yup I am emo. Weak Poet
You aren't capable of getting me emotional. You aren't equipped to accomplish it.
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Yup I am emo. Weak Poet
You aren't capable of getting me emotional. You aren't equipped to accomplish it.
The fact that you keep having to say that is telling.
fyi
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Yup I am emo. Weak Poet
Yeah like you say.......all the time.
nice edit btw.
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Not to sound like a jerk or anything
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Envy
Anytime inequality or inequity is brought up, the "you're just jealous!!1" line always shows up. Usually by someone poor or solidly middle class. Sad, really.
It may make you sad but that doesn't make it any less true.
its like when snooki gets laughed at and mocked for being, well, snooki.
and she says something like "haters guna hate" or "luv my haters too".
its really because she knows we are jealous and just being hatefull out of jealousy
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Did poor wittle baby have a /meltdown?
Back on topic. When people say the only reason the rich get a little shit thrown their way by the lower classes is because of envy, I think what a simple and childish explanation. That's the only reason?
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If thats what a . means then I guess you got me. 
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It's just an attempt to shame the complainers into shutting up about their complaints, regardless of the validity of said complaints. It's like the use of the term "/meltdown" when it gets brought up here. 90% of the time someone's getting pwned and wants the pwning to stop so he types "/meltdown" like it's an iwin button.
You can never ever complain about anyone else, ever, because by complaining about them or their actions or disagreeing with them you "envy" them. It's beyond stupid and lazy.
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Envy isn't a pretty thing.
You say things like that and then wonder why people think you a RWN.That bs is taken right out of the mouth of Rush,Glen Beck,Paulg or Fisted . 
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Then explain Voodoo, why do you have a tantrum and throw shit their way? Why do you even know who they are other than them being rich?
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Envy isn't a pretty thing.
You say things like that and then wonder why people think you a RWN.That bs is taken right out of the mouth of Rush,Glen Beck,Paulg or Fisted .
I don't care if you think I am an RWN. I am more liberal than you are. Pick an issue.
I understand, you have to be seething when you think of rich people. They have to get your blood boiling. I totally get that now. You have to want to string them up. I get it.
Listen I am right there with you in thinking they don't pay their fair share. Even though I've said it about four times in this thread and yet I am defending them and an RWN. You guys are insane.
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Then explain Voodoo, why do you have a tantrum and throw shit their way? Why do you even know who they are other than them being rich?
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dang east coasters :/ another 2 hours here 
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The genius of the left is that while the masses of unwashed libs gnash teeth about the rich, the DNC somehow continues to get OWS and other idiots to vote for Obama and the left.
Is this where you try to tie OWS and Obama together for the umpteenth billionth time?
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The genius of the left is that while the masses of unwashed libs gnash teeth about the rich, the DNC somehow continues to get OWS and other idiots to vote for Obama and the left.
Is this where you try to tie OWS and Obama together for the umpteenth billionth time?
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Is this where you try to tie OWS and Obama together for the umpteenth billionth time?
Now why would I try to do that, when Obama does a much better job at it.
"A few minutes later, Obama acknowledged the Occupy protest movement again, saying: “You are the reason I ran for office.â€
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You know, my link wasn't attacking the rich. It even mentioned that all the most admired folks in the country ARE rich. It was mocking some of the dumb things apologists for the rich use to defend them.
And, instantly, the apologists for the rich jump in, using the dumb arguments that the article mocks.
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You know, my link wasn't attacking the rich. It even mentioned that all the most admired folks in the country ARE rich. It was mocking some of the dumb things apologists for the rich use to defend them.
And, instantly, the apologists for the rich jump in, using the dumb arguments that the article mocks.
Pretty classic!
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The guy is an idiot. He takes a few talking points from the opposition and then makes up his own definitions for what they "really" mean, then argues against his made up framing of the opposing view.
His reasoning sucks even if he's essentially correct on a few of the items.
I might as well listen to Rush next time...same effect.
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I don't care if you think I am an RWN. I am more liberal than you are. Pick an issue.
Those sentences seem to be in conflict with each other. 
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I don't care what you think.....please let me prove it too you.
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Tych, are the harmful impacts of income inequality real or is it just made up by envious people?
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I don't care if you think I am an RWN. I am more liberal than you are. Pick an issue.
Those sentences seem to be in conflict with each other.
Isn't this thread an issue... and Tych is on the RWN side of it...
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I am not going to bother to read this entire thread.
All I will say is that anyone that is on the side of Mastboro needs to really think about where they stand.
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Tych2 posted:
I don't care if you think I am an RWN. I am more liberal than you are. Pick an issue.
Those sentences seem to be in conflict with each other.
Tych2-translation posted:
I don't care what you think.....please let me prove it too you.
I should say instead of I don't care if you think I am an RWN, it doesn't matter if you think I am an RWN. The fact remains I am more liberal than you are and that bothers you and IMHO.
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Tych, are the harmful impacts of income inequality real or is it just made up by envious people?
Of course it's real. That isn't in question. At least not by me. It's the vitriolic hatred of people that have more than you have that bothers me.
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Isn't this thread an issue... and Tych is on the RWN side of it..
Really? Explain my stance on this issue. Are you smart enough to do that? Or will you post a silly picture?
I really hurt your feelings with the religion issue didn't I? This is why I rarely ever talk about religion with people. They get all emotional about it and lash out.
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I don't care if you think I am an RWN. I am more liberal than you are. Pick an issue.
Those sentences seem to be in conflict with each other.
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I don't care what you think.....please let me prove it too you.
I should say instead of I don't care if you think I am an RWN, it doesn't matter if you think I am an RWN. The fact remains I am more liberal than you are and that bothers you and IMHO.
Rofl....you should calm down your losing it chief! You are projecting,I don't care if you are or think you are more liberal than me.Seems important to you though...could be envy.
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Rofl....you should calm down your losing it chief!
You really think I am mad? Why would I be mad? I don't think you understand the definition of envy. Perhap you don't care if I am an RWN, but for some reason IMHO is obsessed with it. It's odd to me.
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Rofl....you should calm down your losing it chief!
You really think I am mad? Why would I be mad? I think you are stretching.
Mad no, upset yes.
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Again I'll ask... why would I be upset?
The only thing that bothers me in this thread is that people expect you to hate the rich and seethe at the thought of them and if you aren't and you don't you are some how an RWN.
But if you need to think I am upset knock yourself out.
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Again I'll ask... why would I be upset?
The only thing that bothers me in this thread is that people expect you to hate the rich and seethe at the thought of them and if you aren't and you don't you are some how an RWN.
But if you need to think I am upset knock yourself out.
Making stuff up is a good sign....show me the expectation of hatred between the OP and your post.There was no expectation of hatred there was only justified criticism.In general only apologist get upset about simple criticism and in general most apologist for the rich are RWNs,so you can see how you at least appear to fit the role.
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In this thread? There isn't that vitriolic hatred I am speaking about. I was making a general statement about it. The tenor of threads throughout the Outpost.
I said that because I was being called an apologist even when I am on the left side of this issue. I still don't get it. It made no sense to me and all I could think of is that I didn't show the same disdain for a group of people I am supposed to.
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Of course it's real. That isn't in question. At least not by me. It's the vitriolic hatred of people that have more than you have that bothers me.
So you are able to recognize that there is a problem. That is a good first step.
Are you also able to understand that there are those that want to address this problem and those that work hard to stop it from being fixed?
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Of course it's real. That isn't in question. At least not by me. It's the vitriolic hatred of people that have more than you have that bothers me.
So you are able to recognize that there is a problem. That is a good first step.
Are you also able to understand that there are those that want to address this problem and those that work hard to stop it from being fixed?
I am on your side on this SoO. The thing I don't understand is why when I say I want them to pay their fair share. They need to be taxed more. That they aren't paying their fair share I am suddenly a shrill, an apologist, an RWN for the rich.
I just don't get it and all I can think of is that I am not showing that hatred and seething rage for the rich that others here do.
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I have never heard someone say I hate rich people.I've never heard anyone imply they hate people because they are wealthy.People are pissed at the injustices the rich are committing against them and the society they live in.That isn't hatred of the rich .
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Since you are quoting me with no commentary I am going to assume you agree with me.
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Again I'll ask... why would I be upset?
The only thing that bothers me in this thread is that people expect you to hate the rich and seethe at the thought of them and if you aren't and you don't you are some how an RWN.
But if you need to think I am upset knock yourself out.
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In this thread? There isn't that vitriolic hatred I am speaking about. I was making a general statement about it. The tenor of threads throughout the Outpost.
I said that because I was being called an apologist even when I am on the left side of this issue. I still don't get it. It made no sense to me and all I could think of is that I didn't show the same disdain for a group of people I am supposed to.
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The only thing that bothers me in this thread is that people expect you to hate the rich and seethe at the thought of them and if you aren't and you don't you are some how an RWN.
I've never seen anyone here hate the rich just because they were rich. It is usually prefaced by something totally ignorant some rich dude said or did that is the cause for comment. And then someone makes a kneejerk post (usually Paul but this time it was you) and off we go to the races.
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Well I've always said when everyone else says you are wrong then you probably have to face it the fact that you are wrong so I'll concede and admit I am wrong in this thread.
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I have never heard someone say I hate rich people.I've never heard anyone imply they hate people because they are wealthy.People are pissed at the injustices the rich are committing against them and the society they live in.That isn't hatred of the rich .
Bigots never see it. They don't hate people because they are black or gay or rich. They hate them because all black or gay or rich people are bad and deserve to be hated.
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I have never heard someone say I hate rich people.I've never heard anyone imply they hate people because they are wealthy.People are pissed at the injustices the rich are committing against them and the society they live in.That isn't hatred of the rich .
Bigots never see it. They don't hate people because they are black or gay or rich. They hate them because all black or gay or rich people are bad and deserve to be hated.
I am very aware of who I hate and why I hate them .I hate you because you are intensely stupid and your ideas and ideals are a plague on the society I live in.
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Rofl....you should calm down your losing it chief! You are projecting,I don't care if you are or think you are more liberal than me.Seems important to you though...could be envy.
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I clicked, and found the article to be not only funny, but true.
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All I will say is that anyone that is on the side of Mastboro needs to really think about where they stand.
I'm not going to say it should be an automatic self-pwn to argue something on the same side as Mastboro, but it sure feels like a self-pwn to do so.
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at the people that think poor people actually pay taxes.
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at the people that think poor people actually pay taxes.
We had a big long thread recently about how awful it was that the poor pay the gas tax which impacts everything they buy including food.
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at the people that think poor people actually pay taxes.
We had a big long thread recently about how awful it was that the poor pay the gas tax which impacts everything they buy including food.
Sorry I meant to say federal income tax. I always do that. 
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If you are limiting your point to just the federal income tax I am not sure what your point is.
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That poor people don't pay federal income taxes.
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People who are unwilling to work hard and/or unwilling to take risks should not hate those who are. I find it amazing when liberals use the word "lotery" when talking about the rich. Is there anything more ignorant? A simple look at how people become rich would fix that problem. Ignorant, stupid and evil. It fits the picture more every day.
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I find it amazing when liberals use the word "lotery" when talking about the rich. Is there anything more ignorant?
I think they actually use the word "lottery".
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People who are unwilling to work hard and/or unwilling to take risks should not hate those who are.
A lot of poor people work very hard. Some rich people don't work hard at all.
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That poor people don't pay federal income taxes.
So you are not trying to establish relevance?
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People who are unwilling to work hard and/or unwilling to take risks should not hate those who are. I find it amazing when liberals use the word "lotery" when talking about the rich. Is there anything more ignorant? A simple look at how people become rich would fix that problem. Ignorant, stupid and evil. It fits the picture more every day.
It actually might be interesting to hear your thoughts on the article -- you know, the topic of the discussion. Perhaps you should try reading it... You might learn something, the least being English.
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People who are unwilling to work hard and/or unwilling to take risks should not hate those who are. I find it amazing when liberals use the word "lotery" when talking about the rich. Is there anything more ignorant? A simple look at how people become rich would fix that problem. Ignorant, stupid and evil. It fits the picture more every day.
Do you know what a false premise is? I'll give you a clue. Read your quote.
Now that that's out of the way:
Hard workers can be rich or poor people.
People unwilling to work hard can also be rich or poor people.
That's why your post is full of stupid.
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Cracked.com is full of win and every Outposter should read it imho.
I read the OP's article and was because it was like a caricature of outpostiness.
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Tych isn't defending the rich, he is just creating a straw man in an attempt to portray those who say anything against them as something worthy of scorn and ridicule. I am surprised you people can't tell the difference.
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Cracked.com is full of win and every Outposter should read it imho.
I read the OP's article and was because it was like a caricature of outpostiness.
The article is hilarious. It totally reminded me of paul.
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