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I heard Jesus hated the gays, because they were terrible Jews.
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Christians decided that God wanted them to make Christian Gay-to-Straight Conversion Camps.
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There's a lot of debate on that view among the 'Christian' camp. A fair majority of people I know that categorize themselves as 'Christian' are okay with people who are gay, to some varying degree. There are a small handful, however, who fall strictly opposed to gays, citing Bible verses about sodomy and so on, ranting about how gays are hell-bound and subhuman, and a few even go so far as to suggest more...extreme...measures. For most things, these people are rather decent overall. I have a hard time associating with them, though, due to their severe issues with gays. Some of my better friends are gay.
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I must say the religious right really is jumping the shark this election
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Theyre ignorant, like racists. They dont really have a good reason for hating them. There are a lot of sins too... It says something when they make such a big deal about that particular "sin".
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Christians shouldn't be worried with the "sins" of anyone. They don't matter. Jesus didn't call them to judge. He called them to comfort and love. Most Christians are way too hung up on Heaven, Hell and sin. Real or imagined none of those things are going to make right now better, and making right now better will win over more people than the promise of a reward, or punishment, after your life is over.
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Sezyrrith posted: a small handful
It's a lot more than a small handful. Maybe where you live it is that way, but the vast Christians I have met, in various parts of the country, are not for homosexuality. Some may be polite and treat me normally, but in their view I am a sinner and god definitely isn't going be happy with me. They're brainwashed by their bigoted spiritual leader in most cases. You can't paint it as a small minority misrepresenting the view of the many. It is not that way.
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You need to not tell some people you are gay unless they ask you directly. Its none of their business anyway
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The pic is more or less true, God will be the one doing the judging souls and we mortals should be taking care of everyone regardless of "situation". I am not sure what is has to do with a Christian speaking out against ideals that are immoral to them.
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That's judgement. Jesus doesn't want you walking around telling everyone what they're doing wrong. He wants you to help them and be kind to them. Speaking out against behavior you might not like does not do anything to help them, and it is not going to bring anyone closer to Jesus. Especially when that behavior isn't hurting anyone and it doesn't involve you.
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Sezyrrith posted: a small handful
It's a lot more than a small handful. Maybe where you live it is that way, but the vast Christians I have met, in various parts of the country, are not for homosexuality. Some may be polite and treat me normally, but in their view I am a sinner and god definitely isn't going be happy with me. They're brainwashed by their bigoted spiritual leader in most cases. You can't paint it as a small minority misrepresenting the view of the many. It is not that way.
You're gay?
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I think gay hate isn't exclusive to religion.
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It's not, but you can't deny it is rampant within most religions, especially the Abrahamic ones.
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I mean several verses are in the bible about homosexuality. But not just on homosexuality. And calling a sin a sin is not judging. However saying someone is going to hell is. The only one that knows that is Jesus and the person. But the bible says what a believer is and how one should conduct themselves. And in no way anywhere in the bible is ANY sin condoned for any reason.
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There are lots of sins. Why the focus on sexual sins over other sins?
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Allstarslacker posted: Real or imagined none of those things are going to make right now better, and making right now better will win over more people than the promise of a reward, or punishment, after your life is over.
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Sea_of_inK posted: queer as a 3 dollar bill
Do you ever fantasize about me?
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Sea_of_inK posted: Most outposters make my stomach churn *but maybe sometimes
You're doing it wrong
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I have no idea why people who are gay dont just move to a place like NYC. Its no big deal here.
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poetkiosk posted: I have no idea why people who are gay dont just move to a place like NYC. Its no big deal here.
Perhaps they don't like the city life? They shouldn't have to move anywhere. They should be able to live where ever they want in peace.
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What I don't get is gays that buy into thinking that being gay is a sin.
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People like to live where they like. Big city urban life isnt for everyone.
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__Bonk__ posted: People like to live where they like. Big city urban life isnt for everyone.
then I would move to Key West or hell even Pittsburgh its no big deal. Living in places like the homophobic south seems like torture for someone who is gay.
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Well they have to fight for what they believe in. Life isnt easy by any means but things are getting better for minorities of all kinds. Fight for your rights
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__Bonk__ posted: People like to live where they like. Big city urban life isnt for everyone.
then I would move to Key West or hell even Pittsburgh its no big deal. Living in places like the homophobic south seems like torture for someone who is gay.
Gay or not - living in the south IS torture...
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Almost all gays move to a city eventually. Mostly out of necessity.
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I agree that the South is the most racist part of the country. This is probably because of its criminal past of having slaves, aparteid, and going to war against the US government in order to try to break away so that they could keep their slaves. Pure evil I say. EVIL.
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I lived in Jacksonville for a year and moved simply because everyone kept saying things like Jesus loves you...no thanks.
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My cousin went to school in Jacksonville and while he was there he ran a bus ministry for a holy roller baptist church that bussed inner city people to the church. Its very religious in that town for sure The pacific NW is one of the least religious and most educated places in the US. Its the best place in the nation to live!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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poetkiosk posted: I lived in Jacksonville for a year and moved simply because everyone kept saying things like Jesus loves you...no thanks.
Jesus does love you, though.
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poetkiosk posted: I lived in Jacksonville for a year and moved simply because everyone kept saying things like Jesus loves you...no thanks.
Jesus does love you, though.
Im sure just don't want ti mentioned during every interaction.
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__Bonk__ posted: People like to live where they like. Big city urban life isnt for everyone.
then I would move to Key West or hell even Pittsburgh its no big deal. Living in places like the homophobic south seems like torture for someone who is gay.
Theres some parts here in FL that welcome and openly support gays like Orlando and Disney where they will host parades for LGBTs. A lot of LGBTs live in the urban parts of FL too like Tampa, Miami, etc., just to name a few. Don't get me wrong though FL is as red as any other right wing state if not redder.
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