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Made me smile... Native grandmas ruining the plans of corporate America.
  
http://bsnorrell.blogspot.com/2012/03/lakota-arrests-underway-halting-xl.html
An action alert was sent out: "Calling all Lakota men on the Pine Ridge Reservation to come to Wanblee, South Dakota." The alert said "Pipeline trucks are being held there at the border by our Lakota Oyate, Oglala Sioux Tribal Police and State Troopers in an effort to keep them from entering our territory. Even the state troopers told the trucks they have to turn around and cannot bring their pipeline or other materials on to our reservation"
"Pipeline trucks are refusing to turn around claiming they have corporate rights that supersede any other law."
Reports from the scene say that the trucks are being allowed to pass, as Lakotas are being arrested attempting to halt the trucks from entering their sovereign territory."
"They said their office in Canada made the route with the State of South Dakota to cross the Pine Ridge rez in order to avoid paying the state of South Dakota $50,000 per truck," Debra White Plume said.
"The equipment arrived from South Korea in August. The truck drivers said they did not know they were crossing an Indian reservation and would tell their corporate office that they need to look at another route, because if they cross Indian land again they will probably run into another blockade."
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Contracts need to be clearly settled and all the people involved notified about their terms and agreements before people start driving around so that this doesn't happen. I would hope that the Lakota folks would have the smarts to figure out what they should charge these folks if indeed there is some value to having them drive across their land (as in, saving taxes).
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Saw this tar sands video on TED the other day and it made me friggn ill. I had no idea how dirty this hsit is to process:
http://www.ted.com/talks/garth_lenz_images_of_beauty_and_devastation.html
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oilsandstruth.org. LOL truthers.
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Rumeal posted:
Saw this tar sands video on TED the other day and it made me friggn ill. I had no idea how dirty this hsit is to process:
http://www.ted.com/talks/garth_lenz_images_of_beauty_and_devastation.html
what a powerful speech
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Yeah because all the deepwater rigs are great. Most of them leak, just not enough to leave giant plumes.
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Rhodoman posted:
Contracts need to be clearly settled and all the people involved notified about their terms and agreements before people start driving around so that this doesn't happen. I would hope that the Lakota folks would have the smarts to figure out what they should charge these folks if indeed there is some value to having them drive across their land (as in, saving taxes).
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The tribe should be happy. 
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Brother_Tempus posted:
Rhodoman posted:
Contracts need to be clearly settled and all the people involved notified about their terms and agreements before people start driving around so that this doesn't happen. I would hope that the Lakota folks would have the smarts to figure out what they should charge these folks if indeed there is some value to having them drive across their land (as in, saving taxes).
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Oh yeah let's support tax evasion, after all cheating the govt, is the mantra of modern conservatism.
Let the common people pay taxes, corporations are too good for that, and some American citizens don't understand how they hurt themselves by supporting this immorality.
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Maleraka posted:
Rumeal posted:
Saw this tar sands video on TED the other day and it made me friggn ill. I had no idea how dirty this hsit is to process:
http://www.ted.com/talks/garth_lenz_images_of_beauty_and_devastation.html
what a powerful speech
and it proves Canada really is to blame
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BritonGuy posted:
Maleraka posted:
Rumeal posted:
Saw this tar sands video on TED the other day and it made me friggn ill. I had no idea how dirty this hsit is to process:
http://www.ted.com/talks/garth_lenz_images_of_beauty_and_devastation.html
what a powerful speech
and it proves Canada really is to blame
haha +1 that
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BritonGuy posted:
Maleraka posted:
Rumeal posted:
Saw this tar sands video on TED the other day and it made me friggn ill. I had no idea how dirty this hsit is to process:
http://www.ted.com/talks/garth_lenz_images_of_beauty_and_devastation.html
what a powerful speech
and it proves Canada really is to blame
FKIN CANADA!
GET SHOO ON THE PHONE!
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Rumeal posted:
Saw this tar sands video on TED the other day and it made me friggn ill. I had no idea how dirty this hsit is to process:
http://www.ted.com/talks/garth_lenz_images_of_beauty_and_devastation.html
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Rumeal posted:
Saw this tar sands video on TED the other day and it made me friggn ill. I had no idea how dirty this hsit is to process:
http://www.ted.com/talks/garth_lenz_images_of_beauty_and_devastation.html
I actually was doing some work for one of the First Nations and I flew to Alberta to tour Suncor... it completely shocked me the size of it.
Pretty much had giant shovels bigger than a house just destroying the environment. Because of the massive amount of processing to even make a usable product they had huge tailing ponds. They had to put giant air cannons in the ponds because ducks were landing in them and dying pretty much instantly.
Funny thing I was talking to one of the workers and he told me "we are just cleaning up mother earth's oil spill"
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Rumeal posted:
Saw this tar sands video on TED the other day and it made me friggn ill. I had no idea how dirty this hsit is to process:
http://www.ted.com/talks/garth_lenz_images_of_beauty_and_devastation.html
I laughed. The tears the getting choked up .. bravo bravo
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tillsb posted:
Rumeal posted:
Saw this tar sands video on TED the other day and it made me friggn ill. I had no idea how dirty this hsit is to process:
http://www.ted.com/talks/garth_lenz_images_of_beauty_and_devastation.html
You should be like me and not give a damn....I live a great life.
I don't define that as "great"
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Rhodoman posted:
Contracts need to be clearly settled and all the people involved notified about their terms and agreements before people start driving around so that this doesn't happen. I would hope that the Lakota folks would have the smarts to figure out what they should charge these folks if indeed there is some value to having them drive across their land (as in, saving taxes).
Rho
If the grandmas are against this there is no way that they will profit off of it.
In Native cultures elders have a lot of respect... no one is going to go against the elders... no way you would be voted into office again. I'm not from the area but I am guessing the pipeline goes against their cultural beliefs - that no amount of money will allow them to accept it.
These are the same people who refused to collect money from the Black Hills after the U.S. broke a treaty and they won in court but were given compensation instead of the land... the money is just sitting in a bank account... I think it is worth over 1 billion dollars today with interest... makes it really interesting considering that this is literally the poorest community in the U.S.
To some people it is not money but principle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hills
"On July 23, 1980, in United States v. Sioux Nation of Indians, the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that the Black Hills were illegally taken and that remuneration of the initial offering price plus interest — nearly $106 million — be paid. The Lakota refused the settlement as they wanted the Black Hills returned to them. The money remains in an interest-bearing account, which now amounts to over $757 million, but the Lakota still refuse to take the money. They believe that accepting the settlement would allow the U.S. Government to justify taking ownership of the Black Hills."
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OG_Loki posted:
tillsb posted:
Rumeal posted:
Saw this tar sands video on TED the other day and it made me friggn ill. I had no idea how dirty this hsit is to process:
http://www.ted.com/talks/garth_lenz_images_of_beauty_and_devastation.html
You should be like me and not give a damn....I live a great life.
I don't define that as "great"
Different strokes and all that...I love my life.
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Waits to hear Jeune cry when nobody can afford gas to drive out to her reserve's Casino.
Bitch all you want, but unless you're living in some fantasy land that doesn't have oil, you're stuck with it and should embrace it when it's coming from Canada. Or maybe you like Iran more?  
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Waits to hear Jeune cry when nobody can afford gas to drive out to her reserve's Casino.
Bitch all you want, but unless you're living in some fantasy land that doesn't have oil, you're stuck with it and should embrace it when it's coming from Canada. Or maybe you like Iran more?
if you like oil more than the beauty of the natural world then you are psycho.
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