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Another nail in the coffin of green eco-products and services that the public DOES NOT WANT.
The stuff does not work as good or as better as conventional fossil-fuel run goods or services .... the government needs to stop wasting the money they have stolen from taxpayers on this broken crap
http://thehill.com/blogs/transportation-report/automobiles/213889-gm-halting-production-of-chevy-volt
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"The Chevy Volt has come under criticism from Republicans in Congress because of reports of its batteries catching on fire during testing." - No problem
"But Republicans have argued that the Volt was being pushed by the Obama administration for political reasons instead of consumer demand." - Spot on call ... no one wants these POS becuase they aren't worth the money being asked for them
"“When the market is ready … it won’t have to be subsidized,†Kelly said. " - BINGO!!!!
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Gas is subsidized.
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With your government is behind everything trolling persona you are taking this article all wrong.
Government Motors shut down the CHEVY Volt because of government involvement in big oil and they were afraid of it driving down their control of the US people by potentially developing technology to help us rid our selves of foreign oil and stop our occupation of peaceful oil producing countries.
That should have been your post. You are losing your touch.
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Actually, I would love an electric car that is cheap and doesn't suck.
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Gas is subsidized.
Ron Paul is big on Big Oil.
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Im still trying to find a gas station that will let me pay in rhino horn.
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Brother_Tempus posted:
The stuff does not work as good or as better as...
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Gas is subsidized.
I've never had any of the "huge subsidies for oil companies" listed or described. Please feel free to enlighten us.
Meanwhile, they are paying the government leases to pump from federal land and then paying enormous amounts of taxes on their companies' profits.
Then, the government is collected huge taxes from US the consumers when we pump gas into our tanks.
The money for those items seems to be running TOWARDS the government rather than away from it.
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notmforce2k posted:
Brother_Tempus posted:
The stuff does not work as good or as better as...
You can always tell the line that B_T added.
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Rhodoman posted:
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Gas is subsidized.
I've never had any of the "huge subsidies for oil companies" listed or described. Please feel free to enlighten us.
Meanwhile, they are paying the government leases to pump from federal land and then paying enormous amounts of taxes on their companies' profits.
Then, the government is collected huge taxes from US the consumers when we pump gas into our tanks.
The money for those items seems to be running TOWARDS the government rather than away from it.
Rho
This is easily looked up....
The US gave oil companies approximately 5 billion in oil subsidies last year, approximately the same amount they paid in federal taxes.
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Cuttlery posted:
Rhodoman posted:
-Ronsac- posted:
Gas is subsidized.
I've never had any of the "huge subsidies for oil companies" listed or described. Please feel free to enlighten us.
Meanwhile, they are paying the government leases to pump from federal land and then paying enormous amounts of taxes on their companies' profits.
Then, the government is collected huge taxes from US the consumers when we pump gas into our tanks.
The money for those items seems to be running TOWARDS the government rather than away from it.
Rho
This is easily looked up....
The US gave oil companies approximately 5 billion in oil subsidies last year, approximately the same amount they paid in federal taxes.
But the Republican literature denies that. Clearly you're a lying democrat.
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Cuttlery posted:
Rhodoman posted:
-Ronsac- posted:
Gas is subsidized.
I've never had any of the "huge subsidies for oil companies" listed or described. Please feel free to enlighten us.
Meanwhile, they are paying the government leases to pump from federal land and then paying enormous amounts of taxes on their companies' profits.
Then, the government is collected huge taxes from US the consumers when we pump gas into our tanks.
The money for those items seems to be running TOWARDS the government rather than away from it.
Rho
This is easily looked up....
The US gave oil companies approximately 5 billion in oil subsidies last year, approximately the same amount they paid in federal taxes.
Besides the fact that it is pretty much major national news for a while now...
http://www.local10.com/Obama-calls-for-oil-subsidies-vote/-/1717430/9193846/-/vxusmrz/-/
A day after Republicans signaled possible compromise with the White House on energy issues, President Barack Obama called Thursday for Congress to vote in the coming weeks on ending billions of dollars in subsidies for the oil industry.
"Eliminate this oil industry giveaway right away. I want them to vote on this in the next few weeks," Obama told students at Nashua Community College in New Hampshire. "Let's put every single member of Congress on record: You can stand with oil companies, or you can stand with the American people. You can keep subsidizing a fossil fuel that's been getting taxpayer dollars for a century, or you can place your bets on a clean energy future."
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I didn't say that I'd never heard of them. Democrats yammer about them all the time. What I don't see is what it is that they are actually doing for subsidies.
Cash? Tax breaks? What?
Rho
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They are mixed in numerous types of subsidies, some for taxes, some for R&D, and some manufacturing subsidies.
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They are mixed in numerous types of subsidies, some for taxes, some for R&D, and some manufacturing subsidies.
Then end them.
End them even if some of them are incentives for them to develop clean energy sources.
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Rhodoman posted:
Cuttlery posted:
They are mixed in numerous types of subsidies, some for taxes, some for R&D, and some manufacturing subsidies.
Then end them.
End them even if some of them are incentives for them to develop clean energy sources.
Rho
Your GOP heros wont stand for that, doesnt help their campaign financing.
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Rhodoman posted:
Cuttlery posted:
They are mixed in numerous types of subsidies, some for taxes, some for R&D, and some manufacturing subsidies.
Then end them.
End them even if some of them are incentives for them to develop clean energy sources.
Rho
You're not a very good republican.
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i saw a Tesla the other day (the little area i live in has a ton of money) people were hanging out their car windows taking pictures
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You're not a very good republican.
See, when I tell people that, here, no one ever believes me.
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Rhodoman posted:
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You're not a very good republican.
See, when I tell people that, here, no one ever believes me.
Rho
Its probably because you vote for whoever has the R regardless of actually knowing anything about them. That part makes you a good republican.
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Its probably because you vote for whoever has the R regardless of actually knowing anything about them. That part makes you a good republican.
I never vote for someone I know nothing about. Many times the republican I vote for is merely a better choice than whoever he or she is running against.
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Kordirn posted:
Im still trying to find a gas station that will let me pay in rhino horn.
Try human horn instead, it worked for Fry.
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The ethanol in the gas is very heavily subsidized. The corn used to make it is subsidized and congress has mandated a huge percentage of our corn crop to be used in the production of ethanol, also, there are big tariffs on importing ethanol.
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Gas is subsidized.
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I didn't say that I'd never heard of them. Democrats yammer about them all the time. What I don't see is what it is that they are actually doing for subsidies.
Cash? Tax breaks? What?
Rho
Uh you ask questions then when they are answered you say " I knew that but what about this? "
Just Google it
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But short supplies at U.S. dealerships and some missteps in rolling the vehicles out to U.S. dealers weighed on sales last year. The vehicle's relatively high price tag—$41,000 before a $7,500 government rebate—also kept many consumers away.
From a wsj article. Requires a subscription
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Pretty sure that GM never wanted this car to be successful. That was evident in the pushing of a lease-only platform and its price. It was just a show.
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Terminius_Est posted:
But short supplies at U.S. dealerships and some missteps in rolling the vehicles out to U.S. dealers weighed on sales last year. The vehicle's relatively high price tag—$41,000 before a $7,500 government rebate—also kept many consumers away.
From a wsj article. Requires a subscription
whats the point when you can buy a brand new fully optioned out top end kia or hyundai for 30k with a life time warranty on it that will avg around 30 mpg for everyday driving.
unless your wealthy and just feel like making a statement.
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There is nothing wrong with the government subsidizing industry to make them work on national goals.
For instance, the first transcontinental railroad was financed by Uncle Sam giving away land along the rail way to the corps building it because the nation needed coast to coast transportation and it need to open up intercontinental resources.
Agricultural extensions aid farmers and ranchers to make them more productive, ie. profitable, because, it's in the nations best interest to feed itself.
The only reason the Republican plutocracy is against subsidizing the Volt is their not getting donations from plutocrats that support it.
It's very interesting to note that three of the top GOP running for the president each have a billionaire supporting them.
Except for Ron Paul and he will not accomplish anything.
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Don't forget the Toyota witch hhunt Obama started that had no basis except a couple people who later admitted they lied.. why not knock out the company that they can't possibly compete against with a pos like the volt.
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