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Paying no heed to any silly slippery slope arguments and marching forward with gnashing of teeth.
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Parents should be allowed to have their newborn babies killed because they are “morally irrelevant†and ending their lives is no different to abortion, a group of medical ethicists linked to Oxford University has argued.
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Who was it arguing how ethical science is?
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I had country fried fetus for dinner tonight with all the fixin's. Yum.
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Mostly irresponsible people use abortion as birth control. This is the rabble.
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Well obviously since there was a paper that said so, it will be the law of the land soon!
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That slippery slope is turning into a moral abyss
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This proposal sounds pretty modest.
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We are too many humans on this planet either way..
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Your right, let all the lefties go. We'll be better off.
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Your right, let all the lefties go. We'll be better off.
Liberals only have planned babies later in life..
It's going to be your kind, the buck toothed pseudo-religious right wing rednecks that will be doing this.. wait and see. 
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Ofcourse you won't have an unplanned baby Manny, you can't get pregnant by having a dude lick your anus.
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Moe_Nox posted:
Ofcourse you won't have an unplanned baby Manny, you can't get pregnant by having a dude lick your anus.
Oh oh someone is affected.
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Scarne posted:
This proposal sounds pretty modest.
Yes, it is quite A Modest Proposal.
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Newborns have a birth certificate and are citizens.
Fetuses are illegal aliens.
Ergo, it is ok to kill fetuses but not newborns.
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Eugenics ... it was big with the progressives just after 1900 and until WWII ....
They are still there as you can see .. infesting the towers of academia where they can be protected by the progressive arm of intelligentsia ... the frightening thing is they are creeping back into government again and suggesting policies.
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Moe_Nox posted:
Ofcourse you won't have an unplanned baby Manny, you can't get pregnant by having a dude lick your anus.
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Brother_Tempus posted:
Eugenics ... it was big with the progressives just after 1900 and until WWII ....
They are still there as you can see .. infesting the towers of academia where they can be protected by the progressive arm of intelligentsia ... the frightening thing is they are creeping back into government again and suggesting policies.
I like the way people like you are a sad little minority that spends it's day gnashing teeth on forums. 
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Moe_Nox posted:
Ofcourse you won't have an unplanned baby Manny, you can't get pregnant by having a dude lick your anus.
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survival of the fittest
wait till that newborn gets angry and breaks out an AK...
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BubbleDude posted:
Moe_Nox posted:
Ofcourse you won't have an unplanned baby Manny, you can't get pregnant by having a dude lick your anus.
QFT
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Moe_Nox posted:
Ofcourse you won't have an unplanned baby Manny, you can't get pregnant by having a dude lick your anus.
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Seems to me that we were called crazy for bring that up. Amazing how the when conservatives say something is going to happen they get hammered as crazy. When it happenends liberals seem to forget things turned out exactly how we said they would and try to throw more money at the getting it right, which makes things worse. They just cannot get it that Government is seldom the best solution.
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This wouldn't be a new practice.
It wasn't an uncommon practice in ages past to dispose of unwanted newborns.
Clearly this shouldn't be an option for everyone, but there are definitely some scenarios where euthanizing, or allowing a newborn to die would save everyone(including the child) a lot of unnecessary pain and suffering.
It should never be mandatory though.
Also, if someone can look down at a healthy happy baby and want to kill it they are probably not a well adjusted individual and they should be checked out.
We are biologically programmed to love babies. If they don't their brains are probably not functioning normally.
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but there are definitely some scenarios where euthanizing, or allowing a newborn to die would save everyone(including the child) a lot of unnecessary pain and suffering.
You probably actually believe that too. You people make me sick seriously. If anyone doesn't deserve the life they have its you. You coward
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I know someone who is disappointed
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Mastara posted:
but there are definitely some scenarios where euthanizing, or allowing a newborn to die would save everyone(including the child) a lot of unnecessary pain and suffering.
You probably actually believe that too. You people make me sick seriously. If anyone doesn't deserve the life they have its you. You coward
You sound a lot like Jesus right now!
Like it or not God created all sorts of miserable conditions that little babies can be born with. A lot of them will only know pain for the small amount of time they are here. I do not see the harm in lessening that time.
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Allstarslacker posted:
Mastara posted:
but there are definitely some scenarios where euthanizing, or allowing a newborn to die would save everyone(including the child) a lot of unnecessary pain and suffering.
You probably actually believe that too. You people make me sick seriously. If anyone doesn't deserve the life they have its you. You coward
You sound a lot like Jesus right now!
Like it or not God created all sorts of miserable conditions that little babies can be born with. A lot of them will only know pain for the small amount of time they are here. I do not see the harm in lessening that time.
A friend of mine years ago had a son. His heart had two holes in it, his diaphragm was incomplete, and his lungs were immature. He had severe brain damage due to a lack of oxygen and had little to no awareness of anything going on. He lived in severe pain on machines for a whopping 6 hours after the surgical attempts to fix the problems they could.
What was the point? They knew from halfway through the pregnancy that he most likely wouldn't live (labeled as 50% chance, optimistically, at 4 months or so...dropped to 10% by 6 months in). They pushed on out of hope, but he died anyway. He was held by his mother for the last few seconds of his life, when they removed him from the machines. There's almost no chance he had any conscious activity anywhere in there...basically comatose his entire life.
Do the hardcore anti-abortionists even consider cases like this? How about ectopic pregnancies? Incest?
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What's the point of allowing people that are less than perfect a chance to live? Should we also off the ones that later become less than perfect? I say no.
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This isn't a new issue, ehticists and politicians have been having this discussion for decades in the EU. Gremany at one point was considering a law that would allow parents of children born with severe birth defects to terminate them up to 6 months after birth. It is a very interesting argument for both sides and draws out a number of stupid contradictory arguemnts so it's well worth having. One of the more entertaining is those that would argue that the government shouldn't come between a doctor and a patient are the first ones to cry the government should ban abortion and euthenasia. WTF, retards can't see hypocrisy when it's staring at them in the mirror?
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There is no all encompassing right answer.
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Scarne posted:
This proposal sounds pretty modest.
Nice.
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Aerlinthian posted:
There is no all encompassing right answer.
And this is why, imo, it shouldn't be flatly legislated. It should be a case-by-case basis.
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