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Topic: The NEEDNT, or non-essential, energy dense, nutritionally deficient, list.

Terminius_Est Title: Moon River Posts: 40,732 Registered: Feb 27, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 40,160 User ID: 651,096	Subject: The NEEDNT, or non-essential, energy dense, nutritionally deficient, list.
	1.Alcoholic drinks 2.Biscuits (cookies) 3.Butter, lard, dripping or similar fat (used as a spread or in baking/cooking etc.) 4.Cakes 5.Chocolate 6.Coconut cream 7.Condensed milk 8.Cordial 9.Corn chips 10.Cream (including creme fraiche) 11.Crisps (including vegetable crisps) 12.Desserts/puddings 13.Doughnuts 14.Drinking Chocolate, Milo etc. 15.Energy drinks 16.Flavoured milk/milkshakes 17.Fruit tinned in syrup 18.Fried food 19.Frozen yoghurt 20.Fruit juice (except tomato juice and unsweetened blackcurrant juice) 21.Glucose 22.High fat crackers 23.Honey 24.Hot chips 25.Ice cream 26.Jam 27.Marmalade 28.Mayonnaise 29.Muesli bars 30 Muffins 31.Nuts roasted in fat or oil 32.Pastries 33.Pies 34.Popcorn with butter or oil 35.Quiches 36.Reduced cream 37.Regular luncheon sausage 38.Regular powdered drinks 39.Regular salami 40.Regular sausages 41.Regular soft drinks 42.Fruit rollups 43.Sour cream 44.Sugar (added to anything including drinks, baking, cooking etc.) 45.Sweets/lollies 46.Syrups such as golden syrup, treacle, maple syrup 47.Toasted muesli and any other breakfast cereal with more than 15g sugar per 100g cereal 48.Whole milk 49.Yogurt type products with more than 10g of sugar -----signature----- There is no emotion, there is peace. There is no ignorance, there is knowledge. There is no passion, there is serenity. There is no chaos, there is harmony. There is no death, there is the FORCE. Sci/Fi Bookshelf http://tinyurl.com/2z8u9h
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AkagiyamaMissile Title: Lord of the Lactose Intolerant Posts: 41,132 Registered: Apr 22, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 40,523 User ID: 793,759	Subject: The NEEDNT, or non-essential, energy dense, nutritionally deficient, list.
	-----signature----- Stupidity is hard to get rid of, but at least I can admit I have a problem -Mithan- Gobble Gobble Mother******! -Thankskilling and off course divers license don't count either this sucks balls.-FD Bring it on like Donkey Kong
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Jezza_Belle Title: =^.^= Posts: 62,779 Registered: Feb 24, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 61,759 User ID: 70,100	Subject: The NEEDNT, or non-essential, energy dense, nutritionally deficient, list.
	whole milk is nutritionally deficient? wtf? and basically, this list is everything in the world that tastes good. -----signature----- ( - Y - ) These ones are not real, just FYI. Follow my progress... http://tweetlbug.deviantart.com/
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Ah-Schoo Title: Fuzzy Caterpillar of Friendliness Posts: 71,317 Registered: Aug 11, '00 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 68,974 User ID: 39,247	Subject: The NEEDNT, or non-essential, energy dense, nutritionally deficient, list.
	Wrong. Maple syrup is a necessity. -----signature----- . Opinion = fact. Anecdote = proof. Political label more important than either of those. Welcome to ACF, where debate goes to die. . "fascist totalitarian secular progressive Zionist intellectually challenged Christian puppets." - Aerlinthina
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-Abysmal- Posts: 21,891 Registered: Dec 20, '00 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 21,218 User ID: 59,638	Subject: The NEEDNT, or non-essential, energy dense, nutritionally deficient, list.
	Ah-Schoo posted: Wrong. Maple syrup is a necessity. THIS! who the hell made this list anyhow? -----signature----- Now i LIVESTRONG GO PATRIOTS Yankees SUCK! I wish AC looked better, I miss it I love you forever Jamie
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-Foxy- Title: Moderator Ãœber Brat Posts: 110,094 Registered: May 29, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 107,357 User ID: 683,944	Subject: The NEEDNT, or non-essential, energy dense, nutritionally deficient, list.
	funky list -----signature----- Long suffering vassal to Xarkath, U.P. - Forever and ever
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myxomatosis8 Title: amateur zookeeper Posts: 18,778 Registered: Jul 14, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 18,441 User ID: 251,097	Subject: The NEEDNT, or non-essential, energy dense, nutritionally deficient, list.
	I eat 10 of those regularly, including the "butter or oil for cooking purposes" entry. And WTF at fruit juice and whole milk. -----signature----- If you're flammable and have legs, you're never blocking a fire exit.
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Sgian_Dubh Posts: 10,339 Registered: Apr 7, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 10,142 User ID: 788,270	Subject: The NEEDNT, or non-essential, energy dense, nutritionally deficient, list.
	2%, 1% and skim aren't on there because they lack the energy density of their whole milk counterpart. -----signature----- "You'll rue the day you crossed me Trebek!"
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Gaevren Title: Wat do? Posts: 18,183 Registered: Sep 15, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 17,906 User ID: 967,012	Subject: The NEEDNT, or non-essential, energy dense, nutritionally deficient, list.
	I can see a point on most of those- those items could be just as easily substituted with healthy/healthier alternatives (like fruit instead of fruit juice). However, saturated fats are essential. Not in the quantities that some people consume, but you need both saturated and non-saturated fats for your body to be properly healthy. So bring on the butter, lard, dripping or similar fat! http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/list-49-foods-avoid-includes-seem-healthy-205444461.html Funny, if you stop eating everything on that list, you're mostly left with...let's see...fresh fruits and vegetables, non-processed meats (steak instead of lunchmeat/pepperoni), eggs, and whole grains. Dairy is always kind of a gray area since so many people are affected by it, but you could have that too! -----signature----- There are no automatic doors, just very polite ninjas
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Malrothien Posts: 32,930 Registered: Aug 4, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 31,620 User ID: 703,438	Subject: The NEEDNT, or non-essential, energy dense, nutritionally deficient, list.
	What pissed me off about that list is honey. HONEY?! -----signature----- In the darkest hole, you'd be well advised Not to plan my funeral before the body dies
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Ah-Schoo Title: Fuzzy Caterpillar of Friendliness Posts: 71,317 Registered: Aug 11, '00 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 68,974 User ID: 39,247	Subject: The NEEDNT, or non-essential, energy dense, nutritionally deficient, list.
	Malrothien posted: What pissed me off about that list is honey. HONEY?! No matter, the bees are dying anyway. -----signature----- . Opinion = fact. Anecdote = proof. Political label more important than either of those. Welcome to ACF, where debate goes to die. . "fascist totalitarian secular progressive Zionist intellectually challenged Christian puppets." - Aerlinthina
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Gaevren Title: Wat do? Posts: 18,183 Registered: Sep 15, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 17,906 User ID: 967,012	Subject: The NEEDNT, or non-essential, energy dense, nutritionally deficient, list.
	Sure, honey. Let's see: Non-essential: check. You don't NEED honey to function properly. You can get what honey provides from other sources- like fruit. Energy dense: check Nutritionally deficient: check. It's pretty much just sugar. The whole point of the list/article is to educate people who are fooled into thinking these foods are healthier than the 'bad' foods they've been eating. I swear I know people who think they are eating better and being "healthier" and will lose weight by substituting honey for table sugar- and the amount of honey they eat is appalling. WTF really? I think honey is better than sugar just because it's been less processed and because there are some possible benefits to local honey (may be able to help reduce allergies, things like that) but when it comes to providing essential nutritional benefits like vitamins/minerals/proteins/etc, yeah it's totally nutritionally deficient. Your body can turn a LOT of things into glucose for energy, it doesn't need honey. -----signature----- There are no automatic doors, just very polite ninjas
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silvadel2 Posts: 4,970 Registered: Jul 13, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 4,970 User ID: 57,980	Subject: The NEEDNT, or non-essential, energy dense, nutritionally deficient, list.
	Gaevren posted: Sure, honey. Let's see: Non-essential: check. You don't NEED honey to function properly. You can get what honey provides from other sources- like fruit. Energy dense: check Nutritionally deficient: check. It's pretty much just sugar. The whole point of the list/article is to educate people who are fooled into thinking these foods are healthier than the 'bad' foods they've been eating. I swear I know people who think they are eating better and being "healthier" and will lose weight by substituting honey for table sugar- and the amount of honey they eat is appalling. WTF really? I think honey is better than sugar just because it's been less processed and because there are some possible benefits to local honey (may be able to help reduce allergies, things like that) but when it comes to providing essential nutritional benefits like vitamins/minerals/proteins/etc, yeah it's totally nutritionally deficient. Your body can turn a LOT of things into glucose for energy, it doesn't need honey. Actually there are quite a lot of trace things in foods such that it is very good to have a wide variety of things -- including things like honey. If we restrict diets (especially of children) by eliminating whole categories that we think are obesity makers then we will one day find that they are immunodeficient or have other problems because they had a more narrow food focus. It isnt a problem that people eat things -- it is a problem that people are eating too much of the same things... IE chocolate is good for you. A whole chocolate cake is not good for you. A 3 ounce cup of peanuts is good for you. A can of peanuts is not good for you. We will probably find out that raw milk like they are trying to outlaw entirely is good for you in small quantities especially as a child. -----signature----- Lost postcount 17k; Lost years 9.6; Lost Title: Priceless The most expensive things in life are free Asheron's Call 3 // Horizons 2 -- Dragons of Dereth (one can always hope) 1920x1200 is a Monitor. 1920x1080 is a TV without a tuner.
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deadcactus Posts: 38,266 Registered: Dec 27, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 37,437 User ID: 577,555	Subject: The NEEDNT, or non-essential, energy dense, nutritionally deficient, list.
	Alcohol is number 1 while soda is 41? BS. -----signature----- 'member dat? True dat.
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Wulfgarr Posts: 22,411 Registered: Mar 24, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 22,040 User ID: 661,117	Subject: The NEEDNT, or non-essential, energy dense, nutritionally deficient, list.
	Bagel isn't on that? -----signature----- Every time I read Jane Austen, I want to dig her up and beat her over the head with her shin bone. -Mark Twain
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Lothland Posts: 4,405 Registered: Mar 8, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 4,131 User ID: 902,109	Subject: The NEEDNT, or non-essential, energy dense, nutritionally deficient, list.
	deadcactus posted: Alcohol is number 1 while soda is 41? BS. -----signature----- Everyone who has put me in their sig has had it forceably removed. -Xalaten
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myxomatosis8 Title: amateur zookeeper Posts: 18,778 Registered: Jul 14, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 18,441 User ID: 251,097	Subject: The NEEDNT, or non-essential, energy dense, nutritionally deficient, list.
	deadcactus posted: Alcohol is number 1 while soda is 41? BS. I take it you entirely missed the fact that the list is alphabetically ordered? -----signature----- If you're flammable and have legs, you're never blocking a fire exit.
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winga Title: Canadian Posts: 29,014 Registered: Apr 27, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 28,668 User ID: 91,955	Subject: The NEEDNT, or non-essential, energy dense, nutritionally deficient, list.
	myxomatosis8 posted: deadcactus posted: Alcohol is number 1 while soda is 41? BS. I take it you entirely missed the fact that the list is alphabetically ordered? Heh -----signature-----
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Gaevren Title: Wat do? Posts: 18,183 Registered: Sep 15, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 17,906 User ID: 967,012	Subject: The NEEDNT, or non-essential, energy dense, nutritionally deficient, list.
	silvadel2 posted: Gaevren posted: Sure, honey. Let's see: Non-essential: check. You don't NEED honey to function properly. You can get what honey provides from other sources- like fruit. Energy dense: check Nutritionally deficient: check. It's pretty much just sugar. The whole point of the list/article is to educate people who are fooled into thinking these foods are healthier than the 'bad' foods they've been eating. I swear I know people who think they are eating better and being "healthier" and will lose weight by substituting honey for table sugar- and the amount of honey they eat is appalling. WTF really? I think honey is better than sugar just because it's been less processed and because there are some possible benefits to local honey (may be able to help reduce allergies, things like that) but when it comes to providing essential nutritional benefits like vitamins/minerals/proteins/etc, yeah it's totally nutritionally deficient. Your body can turn a LOT of things into glucose for energy, it doesn't need honey. Actually there are quite a lot of trace things in foods such that it is very good to have a wide variety of things -- including things like honey. If we restrict diets (especially of children) by eliminating whole categories that we think are obesity makers then we will one day find that they are immunodeficient or have other problems because they had a more narrow food focus. It isnt a problem that people eat things -- it is a problem that people are eating too much of the same things... IE chocolate is good for you. A whole chocolate cake is not good for you. A 3 ounce cup of peanuts is good for you. A can of peanuts is not good for you. We will probably find out that raw milk like they are trying to outlaw entirely is good for you in small quantities especially as a child. I agree with you- I don't think that cutting honey, chocolate, or whole milk (for instance) entirely from one's diet is the way to go...but people freaking need to learn how to moderate. It should be noted though, that all cultures have traditionally eaten different foods in order to supply them with both the macro and micro nutrients needed to survive. Viewed in that light, one could argue that milk and honey aren't essential parts of anyone's diet. -----signature----- There are no automatic doors, just very polite ninjas
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Lanacan Title: Random, Crazy, Mental.... Posts: 23,360 Registered: Feb 19, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 23,026 User ID: 647,740	Subject: The NEEDNT, or non-essential, energy dense, nutritionally deficient, list.
	winga posted: myxomatosis8 posted: deadcactus posted: Alcohol is number 1 while soda is 41? BS. I take it you entirely missed the fact that the list is alphabetically ordered? Heh LOL -----signature----- (none)
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Terminius_Est Title: Moon River Posts: 40,732 Registered: Feb 27, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 40,160 User ID: 651,096	Subject: The NEEDNT, or non-essential, energy dense, nutritionally deficient, list.
	I thought of this while I ate some chocolate covered peanuts. -----signature----- There is no emotion, there is peace. There is no ignorance, there is knowledge. There is no passion, there is serenity. There is no chaos, there is harmony. There is no death, there is the FORCE. Sci/Fi Bookshelf http://tinyurl.com/2z8u9h
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.-Vega-. Posts: 12,423 Registered: Jun 20, '05 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 12,213 User ID: 1,059,842	Subject: The NEEDNT, or non-essential, energy dense, nutritionally deficient, list.
	That list was about 75% right. C+ -----signature----- Ron Paul 2012
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