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Was it too hard to use your purge at the right time, scrubs? Or maybe even IP if they were lucky enough to pull a second 5 sec stun
I played a slash infil and 90% of my duels vs piece infils I owned them. Which leads me to believe that the cry babies in both mid and hib were just bad players.
My slash infil at rr5/6 was taking down rr8/9 sb/ns. It's called knowing how to use your skills and when to pop your RA's.
The best was when tanks and hybrids cried over dying to infils. Pierce infils were shit. Slash infils> all.
Actually, the best was the cry baby shadowblades who used to have massive meltdowns over a stun, but had LA and buffs and pretty much could 3 shot everything if they didn't blow hard ( which most of them did)
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Wasn't pierce meant to be a counter to the tank armors while slash was good against the stealth classes?
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Alb slash was good against hib scale, but bad against mid chain.
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Can't remember but wasn't leather armor vulnerable to slash? I had a RR6 SB and it wasn't fun going against slash infiltrators with extra relics. And purge wasn't always up 
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Alb slash could have had a bonus vs mid leather, but I don't think it has an effect on hib leather...
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...and pierce infils didn't exist...
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A lot of bad players used Dragonfang, Slam and Left Axe to hide their lack of skills.
I rolled a slash inf specifically to target the SBs on our server and I completely destroyed the majority of them. Going up against Hib archers sucked, though, due to the penalty against studded.
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Weapon and armor penalties and bonuses were one of the stupidest things about daoc. Let's make you hit for 85-115% of normal amounts based on who you're fighting! That will be fun and balanced!
It was one of those things that didn't matter for the core RvR but made DAOC one of the worst 1v1 games ever.
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Oddly, if we speak only about melee classes, I find
DAOC best 1vs1 MMO I played
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I never saw anything OP about slam.
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daoc stealth, or invisibility as I called it, was lame and most stealthers were bad players who liked sitting on bridges en masse touching each others special place.
Most archers were leechers who couldn't hack it in an 8man but wanted to feel good. Hopefully GW2 does stealth better.
*and also, the most terrible players of them all were the ones who would QQ about CC and demanded it be removed 
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Corky_Aloof posted:
I never saw anything OP about slam.
2 weapons and lurikeen race was better in my book
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tenkly posted:
Was it too hard to use your purge at the right time, scrubs? Or maybe even IP if they were lucky enough to pull a second 5 sec stun
I played a slash infil and 90% of my duels vs piece infils I owned them. Which leads me to believe that the cry babies in both mid and hib were just bad players.
My slash infil at rr5/6 was taking down rr8/9 sb/ns. It's called knowing how to use your skills and when to pop your RA's.
The best was when tanks and hybrids cried over dying to infils. Pierce infils were shit. Slash infils> all.
Actually, the best was the cry baby shadowblades who used to have massive meltdowns over a stun, but had LA and buffs and pretty much could 3 shot everything if they didn't blow hard ( which most of them did)
A lot of my response is tempered by exactly when in the game I was playing because most of my infiltrator experience pre-dates ToA, the New Frontiers expansion and RA changes. Having said that, Dragonfang was seriously overpowered imho as a thrust inf. RAs on (30 minutes timers) were only useful when active, so unless you were hiding out and waiting for your timer to reset, you were cruising the frontier without Purge or AP or whatever bandaid patch was available for your class. DF was always available, barring immunity timer of re-using it in the same fight. And as a fully templated, red spec-buffed infiltrator, I could run the hammy chain a lot during that nine second stun. I totally understand people's comlaints about all the stun stuff in the game and the nine second stuns were over the top, but at least slam used a ton of endo and could be evaded, blocked parried or etc. pretty well.
Once you add in TOA and the NF changes, all bets are basically off with the varieties of Iwin spread across the game.
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DF and infiltrators in general were OP-ed at start of game...
one of first guys on Tristan to get buffbot was infil
and he used to attack and kill full groups (that uncapped
evade helped a lot, of course)
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I liked the 1v1 game a lot 
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I liked the 1v1 game a lot
You're also #2 in my kill list listed in sig
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As if you did that 1v1 hah.
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As if you did that 1v1 hah.
Of course I did, my melee cleric was awesome!
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of course!
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Stealth is the lamer's game in every MMO.
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ZOMG stungard!
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The new frontiers lay out really highlighted the imbalances.
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tenkly posted:
Slash infils> all.
For reals - on Iseult Boothe > *
However as a melee scout I didn't even spec for slam... 50 Thrust and I would tear peopel up with the stun that triggered off of block... Speccing for slam was a waste of points. You were passed the sweet spot for blocking and needed the points for other crap unless you were FOTM and auto specced bow...
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Slam scouts were tough on Hunters except during the short time when hunters dogs were tough.
I loved my hunter and I hated the bridges and 8 mans only got leeched on if they fought right in front of me,which meant more than likely they were at a siege,because at least 75% of what I did was in sieges.
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Scout's SOLO or any alb only time 8 man stealth pops on you is when you aggro the pictish camp, other then that 100% just use ( 1 )longshot and RUN !! leaching albs never leave home with timers down
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this is probably the worst thread i have seen in a long time
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Wait a minute, did blue error used to be sitting bull or wild bill or whatever that guys name was? Type the same way anyway
Albs were easy mode, only terrible players were Albs
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