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I like the idea of renewable energy sources, but solar is the one that bugs me. Can you generate enough energy from a solar panel to build another solar panel before the components burn out?
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dunno, but here's a squirrel with spider legs (might be photoshopped, not sure)
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The sad thing is that no one may have even thought to make this calculation before.
Rho
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Yes. You'll probably find a lot of misinformation on the subject though. Also, solar energy doesn't have to mean solar panels just fyi.
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Rhodoman posted:
The sad thing is that no one may have even thought to make this calculation before.
Rho
You're probably right. All those people who spent all that time developing solar energy forgot to figure out cost of production and expected life of solar panels. JD_HOGG should patent the idea. He'll be as rich as Al Gore!
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We have a set of four powering...our cell phones.
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Rhodoman posted:
The sad thing is that no one may have even thought to make this calculation before.
Rho
I'm guessing the Republican party pamphlet is against solar energy.
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maybe it's a chipmonk with spider legs, now i am confused
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Casuist posted:
Rhodoman posted:
The sad thing is that no one may have even thought to make this calculation before.
Rho
You're probably right. All those people who spent all that time developing solar energy forgot to figure out cost of production and expected life of solar panels. JD_HOGG should patent the idea. He'll be as rich as Al Gore!
Awesome! How to patent? ??
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aon_mixed posted:
maybe it's a chipmonk with spider legs, now i am confused
It's a bee.
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http://www.csudh.edu/oliver/smt310-handouts/solarpan/pvpayback.htm
So yes, 30 year old solar technology can replenish itself too say nothing of more efficient modern cells...
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every square foot of solar panel produces about 10kw, for around 5 hrs a day, and they usually last for 20 years. they take about 10 years to pay for themselves
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JD_HOGG posted:
Casuist posted:
Rhodoman posted:
The sad thing is that no one may have even thought to make this calculation before.
Rho
You're probably right. All those people who spent all that time developing solar energy forgot to figure out cost of production and expected life of solar panels. JD_HOGG should patent the idea. He'll be as rich as Al Gore!
Awesome! How to patent? ??
For this, it's about $600: http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/ac/qs/ope/fee092611.htm
After seeing the patent for playing with cats with a laser pointer, I'm tempted to test the waters with this. It could be used to sue solar companies, or sold to oil companies for much more. Of course talking about it in a public forum probably makes it unpatentable...
Next time, just PM me your ideas.
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it could be a newt, i was turned into a newt once...
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Casuist posted:
JD_HOGG posted:
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[quote=Rhodoman]The sad thing is that no one may have even thought to make this calculation before.
Rho
You're probably right. All those people who spent all that time developing solar energy forgot to figure out cost of production and expected life of solar panels. JD_HOGG should patent the idea. He'll be as rich as Al Gore!
Awesome! How to patent? ??
For this, it's about $600: http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/ac/qs/ope/fee092611.htm
After seeing the patent for playing with cats with a laser pointer, I'm tempted to test the waters with this. It could be used to sue solar companies, or sold to oil companies for much more. Of course talking about it in a public forum probably makes it unpatentable...
Next time, just PM me your ideas.[/quote]
Another billion dollars out the window 
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deadcactus posted:
http://www.csudh.edu/oliver/smt310-handouts/solarpan/pvpayback.htm
So yes, 30 year old solar technology can replenish itself too say nothing of more efficient modern cells...
Awesome, that's the infos I was looking for.
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aon_mixed posted:
it could be a newt, i was turned into a newt once...
Did you get better?
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Is there such a thing as renudeable energy? If so, I want that.
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Wind is the most economical so far, for Hawaii anyway.
The stirling engine has me the most interested for solar. http://www.internationalrivers.org/the-way-forward/water-energy-solutions/here-comes-sun-taking-solar-power-grid-scale
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What about animals on treadmills.
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Solar panels are dropping in price at about the same rate as DVD players when they were new. We're expected to hit parity around 2014.
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What about animals on treadmills.
what about mutant photosynthesizing animals on treadmills?
edit: will patent as soon as i figure out how to engineer them some chloroplast genes.
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