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Had a chat with him for about an hour on it. We focused the discussion mainly on the little golden "airplanes" looking at them on an iPad. His reasoning was almost the same as the wild haired guy. What else could it be besides a plane or short range space ship? How could you possibly make something like this at random, not having seen a plane or space shuttle before?  What else could they be? Fish? Birds? Gliders made by the Mayans and Incas? Some random abstract art?
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What they are isn't what makes it alienish. It's how they are perfectly aerodynamic, and they blew up one of these exactly how it is. Then fitted it with an engine, and it flew. How could they have had any concept of physics or aerodynamics 3000-4000 years ago.
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I haven't heard a solid theory as to why they could be anything else that what those guys claim them to be.
Considering our sun is a 3rd generation star it is possible (unlikely perhaps) that we have been visited in the past.
Those designs are definitely atmosphere designs and not spaceships though.
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How about extinct insects?
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There have been many times throughout history where we had some really important potential invention that ended up as a toy for a LONG TIME and never actually made it to fruition or took decades or centuries. That said they could be toys -- OR they could have had some form of aircraft -- it didnt have to survive all those years. People always underestimate what ancient civilizations could do. --- It does NOT mean aliens.
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silvadel2 posted: There have been many times throughout history where we had some really important potential invention that ended up as a toy for a LONG TIME and never actually made it to fruition or took decades or centuries.
That said they could be toys -- OR they could have had some form of aircraft -- it didnt have to survive all those years. People always underestimate what ancient civilizations could do.
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silvadel2 posted: It does NOT mean aliens.
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silvadel2 posted: There have been many times throughout history where we had some really important potential invention that ended up as a toy for a LONG TIME and never actually made it to fruition or took decades or centuries.
For example?
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silvadel2 posted: There have been many times throughout history where we had some really important potential invention that ended up as a toy for a LONG TIME and never actually made it to fruition or took decades or centuries. That said they could be toys -- OR they could have had some form of aircraft -- it didnt have to survive all those years. People always underestimate what ancient civilizations could do. --- It does NOT mean aliens.
after your post i am liking the alien theory a lot more.
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silvadel2 posted: There have been many times throughout history where we had some really important potential invention that ended up as a toy for a LONG TIME and never actually made it to fruition or took decades or centuries.
For example?
Thing is I dont remember all of em -- there was once a TV show on such inventions -- they had dozens of them -- was on discovery if I remember right.
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What about the ancient air field? Why they build that, near where these little gold airplane toys were found?
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silvadel2 posted:
Kah_v2 posted:
silvadel2 posted: There have been many times throughout history where we had some really important potential invention that ended up as a toy for a LONG TIME and never actually made it to fruition or took decades or centuries.
For example?
Thing is I dont remember all of em -- there was once a TV show on such inventions -- they had dozens of them -- was on discovery if I remember right.
All? You can't even give one example to back up your BS.
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JD_HOGG posted: What about the ancient air field? Why they build that, near where these little gold airplane toys were found?

Those are in South America, and the airplanes were found in India.
Those lines in South America are cool too. They couldn't recreate those without use of satelites.
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The Nazca lines are quite cool.
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JD_HOGG posted: What about the ancient air field? Why they build that, near where these little gold airplane toys were found? 
Those are in South America, and the airplanes were found in India. Those lines in South America are cool too. They couldn't recreate those without use of satelites.
Not these golden ones, they are South American. You're talking about something else in India but yeah, there was something found in India too that gives ancient alien astronaut theorists some wood.
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Fine, rocketry and flying machines in ancient china. Steam Turbine in ancient egypt Helicopter toys The wheel by mayans... ---- Really can't you do your own google search?
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Why u getting mad in this here thread about science? Science is not for mad.
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JD_HOGG posted: Why u getting mad in this here thread about science? Science is not for mad.
In celebration of that I decided to play "Skullcrusher Mountain" which I may follow up with "The Future Soon" or "Re: Your Brains" --- And it was Ungabhunga's response that prompted my prior response.
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there's a difference between a steam powered toy and a machine that can do more work than an animal. like omg guys i made a paper airplane a hundred years before a real airplane i am genius.
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JD_HOGG posted: What about the ancient air field? Why they build that, near where these little gold airplane toys were found? 
Those are in South America, and the airplanes were found in India. Those lines in South America are cool too. They couldn't recreate those without use of satelites.
bull you can't. I could build that without satellites. and as to the golden airplanes or whatever, look like stylized birds and insects to me.
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JD_HOGG posted: What about the ancient air field? Why they build that, near where these little gold airplane toys were found? 
Those are in South America, and the airplanes were found in India. Those lines in South America are cool too. They couldn't recreate those without use of satelites.
bull you can't. I could build that without satellites. and as to the golden airplanes or whatever, look like stylized birds and insects to me.
Why would they build an airfield though? It makes no sense. They couldn't even see it from the ground.
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Why is it so hard to believe that other beings could have advanced faster than our stupid selves?
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those who claim aliens I think are selling the human race short. just like the people who think aliens built the pyramids and stone henge.
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Maybe the Mayan Calendar was like MS Outlook. We've got a meeting notice for this year...
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the earth has been wiped several times
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And the whole of humanity are dingle berries.
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Itab posted: [quote=JD_HOGG]What about the ancient air field? Why they build that, near where these little gold airplane toys were found? 
Those are in South America, and the airplanes were found in India. Those lines in South America are cool too. They couldn't recreate those without use of satelites.
bull you can't. I could build that without satellites. and as to the golden airplanes or whatever, look like stylized birds and insects to me.
Why would they build an airfield though? It makes no sense. They couldn't even see it from the ground. [/quote] why would they build an airfield... are you SURE it's an airfield? or is it just what you think it might be? It would be awesome if the golden airplanes and the ancient airfields where just that, and that it was proof of aliens coming to earth. But honestly it is more likely that our ancestors built them for reasons that was lost to time. To say aliens did it I think does a disservice to humanity, to our ingenuity and our ability to be given a task and figure out ways to do something.
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These people had very strong beliefs in gods. They also were not stupid. With enough time anybody could build an object large enough to be seen from the sky, in honor of those gods, without ever seeing it by using drawings and measuring. Do aliens exist? Maybe. Have they visited earth? Maybe. Does drawings and sculptures prove it either way? Nope.
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The Rosetta Stone was really just a posting meant for ACF.
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Tipztoe posted: the earth has been wiped several times
And the whole of humanity are dingle berries.
we're hangin on for dear life!
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They look like bugs. Most of our information regarding flight originated as emulation of what mother nature and evolution have developed.
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JD_HOGG posted: What about the ancient air field? Why they build that, near where these little gold airplane toys were found?

Those are in South America, and the airplanes were found in India.
Those lines in South America are cool too. They couldn't recreate those without use of satelites.
bull you can't. I could build that without satellites.
and as to the golden airplanes or whatever, look like stylized birds and insects to me.
ACtually you couldn't. Those are perfectly straight lines MILES long.
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My solid proof that there are aliens...is that they haven't visited. This planet isn't worth it.
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Hawkson posted: My solid proof that there are aliens...is that they haven't visited. This planet isn't worth it.
we've visited the moon. for zero reason. o_o we'll visit mars too. why? it's close.
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Chogram posted: These people had very strong beliefs in gods. They also were not stupid. With enough time anybody could build an object large enough to be seen from the sky, in honor of those gods, without ever seeing it by using drawings and measuring. Do aliens exist? Maybe. Have they visited earth? Maybe. Does drawings and sculptures prove it either way? Nope.
I could accept that if there were some mistakes left behind. How could they nail it on first go without an arial look?
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They were also really, really really bored too probably without the use of TV and the internet to rot their brains and lives
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aliens would be so advance they wouldn't need no stinking lines in the desert to land, aliens would not need pyramids or gold to fuel their ships LOL. aliens don't need stinking human females to mate with, they'll have advance bio tech.
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Fallen_daemon posted: aliens would be so advance they wouldn't need no stinking lines in the desert to land, aliens would not need pyramids or gold to fuel their ships LOL. aliens don't need stinking human females to mate with, they'll have advance bio tech.
i'm so glad an expert on extraterrestrial life has shown up to clue us all in about them.
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Fallen_daemon posted: aliens would be so advance they wouldn't need no stinking lines in the desert to land, aliens would not need pyramids or gold to fuel their ships LOL. aliens don't need stinking human females to mate with, they'll have advance bio tech.
i'm so glad an expert on extraterrestrial life has shown up to clue us all in about them.
just playing alone with the alien theory in order to get here from else where they must have high tech, right now our tech is pretty high tech and we can't even leave the solar system. if theirs is more advance surely they don't need no stinking drawings on a desert floor aka landing strip or gold for their fuels LOL.
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just playing alone? we don't need to know when you're masturbating. and who the fk said anything about gold for "fuels" before you did? no one. nor did anyone mention breeding with human females.
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Caoilin posted: just playing alone? we don't need to know when you're masturbating. and who the fk said anything about gold for "fuels" before you did? no one. nor did anyone mention breeding with human females.
the show ancient aliens mentions the gold for fuel, pyramids for landing their ships, the drawings in the desert is for landing of ships. minotaurs and others were breeding projects with human females and other human females breed with the gods etc..... and tons of other stupid theories.
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AkagiyamaMissile posted:
Brother_Tempus posted:
silvadel2 posted: It does NOT mean aliens.

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The show mentions gold, but who says they would have come here for a known element like gold for fuel? Scientists have discovered many elements since I last studied chemistry. I would say it is likely there are even more than we know about right now. They could have come here for that super secret unknown element that is essential for bending space and traveling beyond super-super-light speed.
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