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Better get in on it, it's only for 48 hours.
https://beta.guildwars2.com/
Link wont work ><
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Dont tell the wow people! we dont want them GW2 
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Dont tell the wow people! we dont want them GW2
there are a lot of VN WoW players i would like to play with, but you are correct when it comes to the gen. pop of WoW culture.
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Thanks for the info. I don't personally participate in Beta tests but it's good to know they are nearing the end of development.
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Thanks for the info. I don't personally participate in Beta tests but it's good to know they are nearing the end of development.
since the beta invites are going out somewhat in mass...i am curious on when we will see a release date?
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Liquid741 posted:
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Thanks for the info. I don't personally participate in Beta tests but it's good to know they are nearing the end of development.
since the beta invites are going out somewhat in mass...i am curious on when we will see a release date?
The sooner the better as far as I'm concerned, though I'm content to wait till they have enough of the bugs ironed out for a smooth release. 
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Very interested to see when this will launch. on a pure value for money perspective, GW2 sounds too good to be true.
If they can deliver on half of what they are saying, it will be a good game. Even more and the majority of us gamers will be delighted !
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I'm looking forward to trying GW2. SWTOR has been fun but I'm honestly more a medieval fantasy girl. No matter how cool lightsabers are I just can't stay entertained in a sci-fi environment for very long.
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Very interested to see when this will launch. on a pure value for money perspective, GW2 sounds too good to be true.
If they can deliver on half of what they are saying, it will be a good game. Even more and the majority of us gamers will be delighted !
Be prepared to be delighted then. If GW2 is even remotely like the GW release, then it's going to be a blockbuster. WoW Killer? That remains to be seen. But it will be a major event in MMO history.
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I'm looking forward to trying GW2. SWTOR has been fun but I'm honestly more a medieval fantasy girl. No matter how cool lightsabers are I just can't stay entertained in a sci-fi environment for very long.
SWTOR is still a fun game for me, even after launch and several months of beta. I've been waiting years for a good sci-fi MMO, since the only ones really available are (were) Anarchy Online (which has such a huge learning curve as to be laughable), Star Wars Galaxies (now dead), and Tabula Rasa (dead even longer than SWG). I don't include Eve because that isn't really an MMO, it's more of a gold-farmer riddled space shooter, and that doesn't count.
I just don't understand why people look forward to a fantasy MMO so much just because of the genre. I mean come on. Fantasy is so overdone in MMOs that I don't think there will really be a ground breaking fantasy MMO short of GW2. I know that GW2 will be my LAST fantasy MMO EVER. I am so tired of the genre that I feel like Gandalf the Dead Horse.
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Why fantasy?
Becasue ALL MMO's have roots in yes, Dungeons and Dragons.
Space/Sci-Fi is still fantasy, btw.
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I like magic, swords, brute force burly warriors and good old fashioned lords and ladies. I like giant elven forests and fire breathing dragons. Evil sorcerers and righteous paladins. /shrug I couldn't explain it better than that. Even in my reading materials I prefer fantasy and high fantasy over sci fi. That doesn't mean I didn't thoroughly enjoy things like Ender's Game. I just find that things like Dragonlance captures my imagination better.
Don't get me wrong either. I really enjoy SWTOR and will continue to play it for a while. I just don't picture myself playing it for years like I did with WoW and AC.
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Sci-Fi is not fantasy, it is sci-fi. They're two different sections in a book store for a reason.
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Sci-Fi is not fantasy, it is sci-fi. They're two different sections in a book store for a reason.
You reminded me of someone who said The only difference between sci-fi and fantasy is one has rivets and one has trees. XD
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Rill_of_WE posted:
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Sci-Fi is not fantasy, it is sci-fi. They're two different sections in a book store for a reason.
You reminded me of someone who said The only difference between sci-fi and fantasy is one has rivets and one has trees. XD
lol that isn't half bad
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My theory is that the fantasy setting makes us feel it's from the past where as with sci-fi we tend to think of the future. Humans as a rule tend to look upon the past with fondness while the future very often frightens us. I think that might effect us on a base level so that a majority of people would tend to prefer a fantasy mmo over a sci-fi mmo.
Then again it's just a theory.
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I think the problem with Sci-Fi is that shooting each other at point blank range seems more ridiculous than swords against armor, etc.
There doesn't seem to be much defense in SWTOR, it's all shields and armor, damage reduction. I remember in AC1 defense was huge, putting points into Melee and Magic defense really worked (magic defense worked much later).
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I think the problem with Sci-Fi is that shooting each other at point blank range seems more ridiculous than swords against armor, etc.
There doesn't seem to be much defense in SWTOR, it's all shields and armor, damage reduction. I remember in AC1 defense was huge, putting points into Melee and Magic defense really worked (magic defense worked much later).
This is another thing "new generation" games are missing as well. DAoC had different damage types, blunt, slash, piercing, and they were strong against certain types of armors. You could also build resists into your template as you built your character to suit how played. There were also multiple magic damage types as well.
Almost all games these days use simple physical and magical damage alone. Removes a lot of the variety.
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Sci-Fi is not fantasy, it is sci-fi. They're two different sections in a book store for a reason.
Hmm, I don't know almost every book store I have ever entered has Sci Fi and Fantasy intermixed.
I had a discussion about this on another board, there is Sci Fi as in the Jules Vern type were it actually based off of Science, like Jurassic Park. Then you have Space Opera or Sci/Fi that is pretty much fantasy only with energy weapons and out of space races instead of dwarves and elves. For the most part Sci Fi that follows Star Wars and the like is fantasy in the reverse. True Sci Fi in the lineage of Jules Vern and Isaac Isamov can never be mistaken or compared to Fantasy.
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JaconKin posted:
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Sci-Fi is not fantasy, it is sci-fi. They're two different sections in a book store for a reason.
Hmm, I don't know almost every book store I have ever entered has Sci Fi and Fantasy intermixed.
I had a discussion about this on another board, there is Sci Fi as in the Jules Vern type were it actually based off of Science, like Jurassic Park. Then you have Space Opera or Sci/Fi that is pretty much fantasy only with energy weapons and out of space races instead of dwarves and elves. For the most part Sci Fi that follows Star Wars and the like is fantasy in the reverse. True Sci Fi in the lineage of Jules Vern and Isaac Isamov can never be mistaken or compared to Fantasy.
Yeah I barely consider Star Wars sci-fi hehe, definitely closer to fantasy!
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I think the whole sci-fi vs fantasy debate really hit a head in the Shadowrun universe. IMO it was probably the ultimate collaboration between the two. I mean come on, it was set in the future, with cybernetics, bio-organic implants, radical military technology, "virtual reality" hacking, etc. along with orcs, trolls, elves, dwarves, swords and sorcery. It's just a shame that FASA failed to market the setting as it should have been.
I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE to play an MMO set in the Shadowrun universe, but that will probably never happen. Not unless Microsoft (the current holders of the IP for electronic purposes afaik) decides to delve into the MMO market.
On the other hand, I'm reminded of an old joke from the 90s about Microsoft and AOL. Would you rather have your toaster crash, or have it say "You have toast!".
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I think the whole sci-fi vs fantasy debate really hit a head in the Shadowrun universe. IMO it was probably the ultimate collaboration between the two. I mean come on, it was set in the future, with cybernetics, bio-organic implants, radical military technology, "virtual reality" hacking, etc. along with orcs, trolls, elves, dwarves, swords and sorcery. It's just a shame that FASA failed to market the setting as it should have been.
I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE to play an MMO set in the Shadowrun universe, but that will probably never happen. Not unless Microsoft (the current holders of the IP for electronic purposes afaik) decides to delve into the MMO market.
On the other hand, I'm reminded of an old joke from the 90s about Microsoft and AOL. Would you rather have your toaster crash, or have it say "You have toast!".
lol @ the joke...LOOOOOOOOOVE the Shadowrun universe, not just for the mix of sci-fi/fantasy but the freedom that that blend provided in combat and general game play.
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