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Remember this the next time Ubama says everyone must “pay their fair share,â€
This year’s Index of Dependence on Government presented startling findings about the sharp increase of Americans who rely on the federal government for housing, food, income, student aid or other assistance. (See last week’s chart.)
Another eye-popping number was the percentage of Americans who don’t pay income taxes, which now accounts for nearly half of the U.S. population. Meanwhile, most of that population receives generous federal benefits.
“One of the most worrying trends in the Index is the coinciding growth in the non-taxpaying public,†wrote Heritage authors Bill Beach and Patrick Tyrrell. “The percentage of people who do not pay federal income taxes, and who are not claimed as dependents by someone who does pay them, jumped from 14.8 percent in 1984 to 49.5 percent in 2009.â€
That means 151.7 million Americans paid nothing in 2009. By comparison, 34.8 million tax filers paid no taxes in 1984.
The rapid growth of Americans who don’t pay income taxes is particularly alarming for the fate of the American form of government, Beach and Tyrrell warned. Coupled with higher spending on government programs, it is already proving to be a major fiscal challenge.
http://blog.heritage.org/2012/02/19/chart-of-the-week-nearly-half-of-all-americans-dont-pay-income-taxes/
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I paid my 3 grand this year! Yaaay middle class!
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Of those 49.5%, how many were able to to work?
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I payed about $25000 last year. Screw the government.
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I know when i am looking for objective facts i always turn to a right wing blog.
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And how many corporations don't pay however much they should pay in taxes? A lot...
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Those bastards! Let's stop outsourcing jobs, and create a skilled labor force here, bringing up the median income. We can then employ those f****rs and make them pay!
Now do the part about payroll and sales tax as a percentage of income.
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We need to stop kidding ourselves that Social Security is a retirement fund and is really social welfare for the elderly and combine it into the income tax.
That way, we take the cap off of contributions, the SS portion of the income tax can be lower, and the 49% who don't pay what is now "income tax" will show in the statistics as paying *something*.
It will allow everyone up and down the income scale to notice that they are paying income taxes and will give them incentive to hold the government more accountable for how it spends their money.
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after our deductions we paid $400. 
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I see no response to my question. I can't help but think that many are probably too old, too young, in school, with disabilities to work. I rarely trust statistics because you can usually coax out the numbers you want to see.
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Reapist posted:
I see no response to my question. I can't help but think that many are probably too old, too young, in school, with disabilities to work. I rarely trust statistics because you can usually coax out the numbers you want to see.
I read somewhere that 21-ish% are retirees on social security. The "official" unemployment rate is currently 8.3% so those two added together are nearly 30% of "All Americans" (that number is really higher than 8.3%, incidentally).
But pointing out facts to people who buy into the argument linked in the OP is a huge waste of time and I would advise against it.
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Conservatives love to hone in on the income tax number because it distorts the overall tax burden picture into the false theme that people on the bottom are freeloaders. The bottom 50% pay a higher percentage of their income into payroll, sales, and other taxes. When you look at total tax burden for all taxes (local, state, federal), as a percentage of income, things skew the other direction.
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_Gimpzilla_ posted:
Conservatives love to hone in on the income tax number because it distorts the overall tax burden picture into the false theme that people on the bottom are freeloaders. The bottom 50% pay a higher percentage of their income into payroll, sales, and other taxes. When you look at total tax burden for all taxes (local, state, federal), as a percentage of income, things skew the other direction.
Too bad money isn't of linear value. Of course, who needs math when we can spout emotionally charged rhetoric and get our way! 
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!@#$ property taxes are too high!!
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LOL @ the percentage argument.
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Nickle and dime the unemployed and elderly. Sure.
AND....... close the loopholes that allow companies to hide unchecked BILLIONS of dollars.
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If their were more jobs then people could afford to pay more taxes.
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Fallen_daemon posted:
!@#$ property taxes are too high!!
You may not know it, but I and the rest of the world know you property taxes are passed on to your renters. If you occupy a space you will pay. It doesn't matter if you own it or not.
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Rhodoman posted:
We need to stop kidding ourselves that Social Security is a retirement fund and is really social welfare for the elderly and combine it into the income tax.
That way, we take the cap off of contributions, the SS portion of the income tax can be lower, and the 49% who don't pay what is now "income tax" will show in the statistics as paying *something*.
It will allow everyone up and down the income scale to notice that they are paying income taxes and will give them incentive to hold the government more accountable for how it spends their money.
Rho
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What Rho said.
Also, we shouldn't snicker whenever a politician says he/she wants to save the Social Security Trust fund. 
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Terminius_Est posted:
What Rho said.
Also, we shouldn't snicker whenever a politician says he/she wants to save the Social Security Trust fund.
most of us paid into it our entire lives. You are going to take it away or change it drastically ? It's mine I bought and paid for it and it isn't someone else to decide what to do with it.
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Caledric posted:
I paid my 3 grand this year! Yaaay middle class!
About $15k in just federal taxes, according to my W2
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People are still too dumb to realize that federal income taxes are only one of many taxes US citizens are charged with.
This is the 4th or 5th time this thread has been on these boards..
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