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We must take Fox News head-on in a well funded, presidential-style campaign to discredit and embarrass the network, making it illegitimate in the eyes of news consumers
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Media Matters Collaborated With Obama White House
An internal Media Matters For America memo obtained by The Daily Caller reveals that the left-wing media watchdog group employs an “opposition research team†to target its political enemies. Included in the list of targets are right-leaning websites, conservative think tanks, prominent financiers and donors, and more than a dozen specific Fox News Channel and News Corporation employees.
“We will conduct extensive public records searches and compile opposition books on individuals,â€
Liberal media watchdog group Media Matters once contemplated harassing Fox News employees with yard signs in their neighborhoods, hiring private investigators to dig into their personal lives and retaining a “major law firm†to study legal action against the network,
Still, this dangerous level of controlled media messaging wasn’t enough for Obama. In 2009 he attempted to block Fox News from the press pool because of their unfavorable reporting. He has routinely intimidated and bullied reporters, often restricting their access to the White House if they dared to step out of line. He had the Department of Homeland Security monitor journalists online. He’s collaborated directly with journalists, hosting them at White House gatherings where they were given talking points to coordinate the message for the 2012 election. Even veteran liberal reporter Helen Thomas complained that ‘not even Nixon’ tried to control the media like Obama does.
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Maxine Waters Calls GOP Demons, Don't Let Them in 'Our Halls'
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yuppers.........
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If it's true then CNN and MSNBC will come to the defense of Fox News. If they don't it's suicide.
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Media matters is a reliable, dependable fact check site, who devote their time almost entirely to the failures of cable television. They do good work.
If Fox News is tired of being critiqued maybe they should stop broadcasting so much false information.
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Still, this dangerous level of controlled media messaging wasn’t enough for Obama. In 2009 he attempted to block Fox News from the press pool because of their unfavorable reporting.
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Media matters is a reliable, dependable fact check site, who devote their time almost entirely to the failures of cable television. They do good work.
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Media matters is a reliable, dependable fact check site, who devote their time almost entirely to the failures of cable television. They do good work.
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Media matters is a reliable, dependable fact check site, who devote their time almost entirely to the failures of cable television. They do good work.
If Fox News is tired of being critiqued maybe they should stop broadcasting so much false information.
This.
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dang. you didn't just DRINK the koolaid, you poured straight in your mouth from the packet.
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Media matters is a reliable, dependable fact check site, who devote their time almost entirely to the failures of cable television. They do good work.
If Fox News is tired of being critiqued maybe they should stop broadcasting so much false information.
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All I know is Fox tells the truth in a totally unbiased manner...
Study after study has proven it...
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Media matters is a George Soros funded 501(3)(c) DNC shill, who devote their time entirely to melting down over Fox News. They do good work.
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Its rather disturbing to see how the various media outfits are really becoming extensions of the political parties. We see this in Canada, where the CBC shills for the Liberals, and the so-called "Sun-TV" now shills for the Tories. The only major network here that seems decent is CTV
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Propoganda is more interesting when it is combined with a healthy dose of agitation and Fox News knows this and other networks are trying to catch on. Fox News is still better at agitprop than the other networks.
This place wouldn't be as fun without any mud slinging and cable news is no different. The impact this has on political discourse is not great but in a demand based economy people get what they want.
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Propoganda is more interesting when it is combined with a healthy dose of agitation and Fox News knows this and other networks are trying to catch on. Fox News is still better at agitprop than the other networks.
Not really. Fox news is just more blatant and less subtle about it.
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Other networks have become far more blatant and purposeful lately and are trying to use the Fox formula but for liberals.
They are still not very good at it IMO. You may not like Fox News for popularizing agitprop but they are good at it.
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The other networks do not put the other side on as often as Fox. Fox News is successful for two reasons, it's the closest thing to a conservative network and two there is always conflict on their talk shows. MSNBC and CNN is mostly circle jerks between the anchor and the interviewee.
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The traditional media are used to their own brand of agit prop, aimed at urban liberal types. It was genteel, sophisticated but it was still agitprop and those who stood outside that belief system could see it for what it was. Shit in a silk stocking is still shit. However, they left a large void and plugged their ears and pretended this void did not exist.
Fox news is successful because they filled this void. They filled it with garbage, but garbage fills a void just as well as gold does. The only difference between Fox and CNN is that fox is less subtle and more blatant about their bias.
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The traditional media are used to their own brand of agit prop, aimed at urban liberal types. It was genteel, sophisticated but it was still agitprop and those who stood outside that belief system could see it for what it was. Shit in a silk stocking is still shit. However, they left a large void and plugged their ears and pretended this void did not exist.
Fox news is successful because they filled this void. They filled it with garbage, but garbage fills a void just as well as gold does. The only difference between Fox and CNN is that fox is less subtle and more blatant about their bias.
No not really.
There is a large difference between systematically manipulating people and being biased in the news. If anything CNN ignores a lot of the same BS that Fox ignores and is biased in favor of conservative ideals.
A lot of media that the right consideres leftist is actually a mix of left and right bias. Left wing bias at the individual level but right wing bias at the corporate level.
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Media matters is a George Soros funded 501(3)(c) DNC shill, who devote their time entirely to melting down over Fox News. They do good work.
/nod /nod
MediaMatters goes after all the cable networks...
But don't let that trip you up...
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MediaMatters goes after all the cable networks...
But don't let that trip you up...
http://mediamatters.org/
On their scrolling stories 3/4 are Fox.
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reesescups posted:
MediaMatters goes after all the cable networks...
But don't let that trip you up...
http://mediamatters.org/
On their scrolling stories 3/4 are Fox.
and 1/4 aren't Fox
As is already noted many times in this thread - Fox is simply better at their propaganda...
Lets not forget Foxnews/Rupert Murdoch has had to shut down British operations because of their methods, they aren't allowed into Canada for blatant lying. Their methods are well known and documented...
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I'm all for these groups that monitor media messages. So what if they target Fox, it just keeps fox in line. Would you rather have Fox just say whatever they wanted? And if you're Fox what could you be complaining about, that you can't lie? We all win when people wacth the media. If you think someone should be fact checking the other networks (and they do), I'm all for it.
Seriously, do you want the media lying to you? 
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Media matters is a reliable, dependable fact check site, who devote their time almost entirely to the failures of cable television. They do good work.
If Fox News is tired of being critiqued maybe they should stop broadcasting so much false information.
ahaha you had to be laughing when you typed this, or drooling... I guess you could be drooling instead of laughing, because it definitely is one of the two 
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Seriously, do you want the media lying to you?
Yes, a lot of people want exactly that. Not only that, they don't want to be told that they are being lied to.
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I don't think it's right they go after anyone's personal lives. If they want to go after the network themselves then they should as long as it's legal.
I never knew about Media Matter's bias until a few months ago. I always thought they were non partisan. Truth is they aren't.
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Media matters is a reliable, dependable fact check site, who devote their time almost entirely to the failures of cable television. They do good work.
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reesescups posted:
Koneg posted:
Remnant_OBrien posted:
Media matters is a George Soros funded 501(3)(c) DNC shill, who devote their time entirely to melting down over Fox News. They do good work.
/nod /nod
MediaMatters goes after all the cable networks...
But don't let that trip you up...
/nod /nod
Current RSS Feed lists 48 stories.
Current RSS Feed that mention Fox network, show or personality by name in their headline: 41
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This is bad because SOROS! and not KOCH!
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This is bad because SOROS! and not KOCH!
Seriously? That's all you can respond with?
Didn't know you were so low on ammo.
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I think we all can agree that a lot of truth and clarity is certainly not in Faux News best interest, regardless of the source.
What happened to fair, balanced and unafraid?
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Ashmaele posted:
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This is bad because SOROS! and not KOCH!
Seriously? That's all you can respond with?
Didn't know you were so low on ammo.
Trust me, that's much more of a response than this stupid topic actually deserves.
I still have no idea if it's even true. Blew_tardo is wrong more than Paul and Fred combined so there's probably a 70% chance it's complete bullshit.
That said, the fact that conservatards  about billionaires like Soros sticking their noses in politics while completely ignoring the Kochs doing the exact same thing is pretty loltastic. I am not the least bit surprised that the obvious eludes you, though.
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Media Matters unfairly singles out Fox because they're liberal! Not because our beloved Fox "News" acts as the propaganda wing for the GOP, misrepresents facts, and sometimes just straight makes stuff up.
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Ashmaele posted:
[quote=RWNs]This is bad because SOROS! and not KOCH!
Seriously? That's all you can respond with?
Didn't know you were so low on ammo.
Trust me, that's much more of a response than this stupid topic actually deserves.
I still have no idea if it's even true. Blew_tardo is wrong more than Paul and Fred combined so there's probably a 70% chance it's complete bullshit.
That said, the fact that conservatards about billionaires like Soros sticking their noses in politics while completely ignoring the Kochs doing the exact same thing is pretty loltastic. I am not the least bit surprised that the obvious eludes you, though. [/quote]
Why do LWNs typically mention the Koch brothers when mentioning Soros in the same phrase?
Ashmaele, What is the difference between Sheldon Adelson and George Soros, except that Soros worked for the Nazis?
LWN thinking: Jews are only good when voting/working for the Authoritarian/Socialist Left.
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I don't think it's right they go after anyone's personal lives. If they want to go after the network themselves then they should as long as it's legal.
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Why do LWNs typically mention the Koch brothers when mentioning Soros in the same phrase?
Link? Or does once = "typically?"
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Ashmaele, What is the difference between Sheldon Adelson and George Soros, except that Soros worked for the Nazis?
The difference between Sheldon Adelson and George Soros is that I have never heard of Sheldon Adelson.
The main thing (to me) that Sheldon Adelson and George Soros have in common is that I would not have heard of either of them if not for some whiny conservatard mentioning their names.
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LWN thinking: Jews are only good when voting/working for the Authoritarian/Socialist Left.
I'm sure that Jews have something to do with this topic, I just haven't figured out exactly what yet.
Anyway, how was prison?
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Just saw u mentioning Soros.
I counter with Sheldon Adelson as being a more respectable Jew.
BTW, I've never been to prison and I don't have a criminal/police record.
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Just saw u mentioning Soros.
So you started reading the thread at my post? Ok.
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I counter with Sheldon Adelson as being a more respectable Jew.
Solid
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BTW, I've never been to prison and I don't have a criminal/police record.
What's the food like in there anyway? Do you trade your cobbler for cigarettes like in the movies? Are guys like you considered currency?
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The difference between Sheldon Adelson and George Soros is that I have never heard of Sheldon Adelson.
Adelson is the primary funder of Gingrich's campaign. Not sure how much political involvement he has outside of the Gingrich connection.
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Ashmaele posted:
The difference between Sheldon Adelson and George Soros is that I have never heard of Sheldon Adelson.
Adelson is the primary funder of Gingrich's campaign. Not sure how much political involvement he has outside of the Gingrich connection.
i googled him and apparently he was a big donor to Dubya and started some kind of right-wing version of moveon.org which failed. I still have no idea who he is other than that.
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Ashmaele posted:
_Gronk_ posted:
Just saw u mentioning Soros.
So you started reading the thread at my post? Ok.
_Gronk_ posted:
I counter with Sheldon Adelson as being a more respectable Jew.
Solid
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BTW, I've never been to prison and I don't have a criminal/police record.
What's the food like in there anyway? Do you trade your cobbler for cigarettes like in the movies? Are guys like you considered currency?
What makes you think I have ever been to prison?
I have no criminal/police record and a law-abiding and legal gun owner.
They don't let criminals legally own guns.
You should know that.
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I still have no idea who he is other than that.
You have never been to Las Vegas then.
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He is also involved with a potential Casino in his home city of Boston.
Taliesihne can update you on that.
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Yeah I saw where he owns a bunch of casinos or something. But that doesn't automatically give him name recognition. I shop at Home Depot regularly and love the store but I couldn't tell you off the top of my head who their CEO is.
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/spoiler
He's the only reason Newt Gingrich is in the race. You should've heard his name from a liberal.
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Yeah I saw where he owns a bunch of casinos or something. But that doesn't automatically give him name recognition. I shop at Home Depot regularly and love the store but I couldn't tell you off the top of my head who their CEO is.
That's your fault, not mine.
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[quote=Remnant_OBrien]Media matters is a George Soros funded 501(3)(c) DNC shill, who devote their time entirely to melting down over Fox News. They do good work.
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MediaMatters goes after all the cable networks...
But don't let that trip you up...
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Current RSS Feed lists 48 stories.
Current RSS Feed that mention Fox network, show or personality by name in their headline: 41
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So either Fox is so intellectually dishonest that they merit more mention, or Media Matters is biased and intentionally seeks to discredit Fox. Or both.
What you posted doesn't eliminate any of the three.
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They are both guilty: Fox and Media Matters.
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MediaMatters goes after all the cable networks...
But don't let that trip you up...
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Current RSS Feed lists 48 stories.
Current RSS Feed that mention Fox network, show or personality by name in their headline: 41
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Thanks for proving my point
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I see that moron with the massive inferiority complex is back. Still obsessing over his failure to be born Jewish and intent on dictating who are Good Jews and Bad Jews. Him and Aerlinthian should just get married.
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Media Matters tax-exempt useing tax payers money to go after a private company and any and all of Fox employees
look at all Media Matters buddys
http://tinyurl.com/83lb6xb
The list of Media Matters’ foundation funders, 120 in all, reads like a Who’s Who of the American progressive movement, including the far-left Tides Foundation ($4,384,702), George Soros’ Open Society Institutes ($1,075,000), the Ford Foundation ($966,466), the Sandler Foundation ($400,000) — endowed by subprime mortgage lenders Herb and Marion Sandler, who once bankrolled the embattled ACORN organization — and the Schumann Fund for Media and Democracy ($600,000), managed by longtime PBS host Bill Moyers and his son.
They also include the anti-George W. Bush organization MoveOn.org ($50,000), the Barbra Streisand Foundation ($85,000), the kids’ shoes-powered Stride Rite Charitable Foundation ($25,000), the Lear Family Foundation ($55,000) – endowed by the TV producer and People for the American Way founder Norman Lear – and the Joyce Foundation ($400,000), whose board of directors included Barack Obama from 1994 to 2002.
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I see that moron with the massive inferiority complex is back. Still obsessing over his failure to be born Jewish and intent on dictating who are Good Jews and Bad Jews. Him and Aerlinthian should just get married.
Aerlin-hitler isnt my type.
I'm not worried about a massive Zoinist conspiracy. I married into it.
Besides, you're just jealous that I live a good life outside of the Outpost.
Hate is all you have.
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Media matters does good work and attracts the interest and donations of patriotic Americans interested in truth and accuracy in the media! If you don't lie media matters won't bother you.
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