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Big topic on the news right now involving laws versus rights.
I don't find it offensive at all.
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Non issue. People getting butthurt over this need to stfu.
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I tried doing it, but some women are really hung up about it.
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The way I see it I do have small ones but they don't produce any milk so I can't see doing it in the near future, public or private.
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This is an issue raised entirely by small breasted women. No man is against bare breasts in public.
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Non issue. People getting butthurt over this need to stfu.
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Its fine.
I get people being bothered by it but they just have to grow up and deal with it.
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This is an issue raised entirely by small breasted women. No man is against bare breasts in public.
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I think it's totally fine. I realize that humans have lost touch with themselves and nature but banning that in public is disgraceful. I mean as long as your tits aren't flapping about openly it's all good. Discretion is key.
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Non issue for me. Babies need to be fed and mothers are the source. Leave them alone.
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No big deal. Just be discreet with a blanket and be done with it. However, if you are showcasing your floppy stuff for all to see as some form of personal triumph, then you get what you ask for.
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I didn't catch the whole story..but from what i understand, a lady got fired from her job for pumping milk (in the ladies bathroom) ..and now the lawsuit is on.
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tenkly posted:
Non issue. People getting butthurt over this need to stfu.
True.
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The fact that it is even notable shows how much we stil need to progress.
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I don't think mother and child should leave the home until the child is potty trained and their first set.of teeth.are.in.
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whats a woman doing out of the kitchen in the first place?
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This is an issue raised entirely by small breasted women. No man is against bare breasts in public.
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I am fine with it as long as mothers don't go overboard, I admit to being uncomfortable when I saw a woman breastfeeding a seven year old.
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Corky_Aloof posted:
No big deal. Just be discreet with a blanket and be done with it. However, if you are showcasing your floppy stuff for all to see as some form of personal triumph, then you get what you ask for.
What are they asking for exactly?
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Depends upon what the mom looks like.
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IMO boobs shouldn't have to be covered up in the first place. Ridiculous double-standard that evolved over the centuries. So, obviously using them for what they're designed to do anytime anywhere isn't even objectionable, and in fact, should be a protected right.
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No big deal. Just be discreet with a blanket and be done with it. However, if you are showcasing your floppy stuff for all to see as some form of personal triumph, then you get what you ask for.
What are they asking for exactly?
Drama, stares, immature comments. The usual stupid human behavior.
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I don't mind public breastfeeding but I do mind when it's done right within my field of view. Some effort should be taken by women to not invite an audience because you feel uncomfortable when your eyes pass by it.
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I didn't catch the whole story..but from what i understand, a lady got fired from her job for pumping milk (in the ladies bathroom) ..and now the lawsuit is on.
What is absurd is that there wasn't any other place she could go to pump. Would you really want to prepare food in the room designated for taking dumps?
Breastfeeding in public is fine. I did it with all my kids. But I also didn't just let the girls hang out for the world to oggle, I always covered up.
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This is one of those where the true extent of my 'truly classic liberal and civil libertarian' streak shows... where I hold true to my promise that I am truly about as far 'left' on some issues as you can get without getting a divide-by-zero error.
I honestly believe it is unlawful, unconscionable oppression to pass laws that stop one from using one's body from doing what it is DESIGNED to do. Womens' breasts are DESIGNED to healthily feed our young. Anti-breastfeeding and public nudity laws involving breasts are among the most clearly oppressive, clearly wrong laws we have on the books. They're a pinnacle of a double standard, and a crystal clear case of misogyny.
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What is absurd is that there wasn't any other place she could go to pump. Would you really want to prepare food in the room designated for taking dumps?
Breastfeeding in public is fine. I did it with all my kids. But I also didn't just let the girls hang out for the world to oggle, I always covered up.
In Washington state and others, employers are required to provide dedicated space with a secure door that is NOT a bathroom for nursing mothers.
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What is absurd is that there wasn't any other place she could go to pump. Would you really want to prepare food in the room designated for taking dumps?
Breastfeeding in public is fine. I did it with all my kids. But I also didn't just let the girls hang out for the world to oggle, I always covered up.
In Washington state and others, employers are required to provide dedicated space with a secure door that is NOT a bathroom for nursing mothers.
Case in point. Making more regulations to counter bad laws. Just more stupidity and overtaking of the plumbing to 'circumvent' restrictions which shouldn't exist in the first place.
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Non issue. People getting butthurt over this need to stfu.
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I have absolutely no problem with breastfeeding in public. The problem is every time I try it the kid, and sometimes the kid's mother, get very upset with me. 
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Women who breastfeed their kids are great moms. I have to not stare when the women do it though! Boobs are fascinating!
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i dont understand why women with young children are even going out in public
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Eithne_Boadicea posted:
Halloweve posted:
I didn't catch the whole story..but from what i understand, a lady got fired from her job for pumping milk (in the ladies bathroom) ..and now the lawsuit is on.
What is absurd is that there wasn't any other place she could go to pump. Would you really want to prepare food in the room designated for taking dumps?
Where the hell else is she supposed to go when she's at work? Do it right at her cubicle? At least she was trying to find a more private area.
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Hmmm, let's see. Screaming hungry baby or a chance to catch a glimpse of skin or nipple? No brainer.
Folks that are offended by one of the most natural activities in the world need to grow up and simply STFU.
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This is one of those where the true extent of my 'truly classic liberal and civil libertarian' streak shows... where I hold true to my promise that I am truly about as far 'left' on some issues as you can get without getting a divide-by-zero error.
I honestly believe it is unlawful, unconscionable oppression to pass laws that stop one from using one's body from doing what it is DESIGNED to do. Womens' breasts are DESIGNED to healthily feed our young. Anti-breastfeeding and public nudity laws involving breasts are among the most clearly oppressive, clearly wrong laws we have on the books. They're a pinnacle of a double standard, and a crystal clear case of misogyny.
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i dont understand why women with young children are even going out in public
You're right, you should strive and hope for a society where people are afraid to feed their children in their own community.
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This is one of those where the true extent of my 'truly classic liberal and civil libertarian' streak shows... where I hold true to my promise that I am truly about as far 'left' on some issues as you can get without getting a divide-by-zero error.
I honestly believe it is unlawful, unconscionable oppression to pass laws that stop one from using one's body from doing what it is DESIGNED to do. Womens' breasts are DESIGNED to healthily feed our young. Anti-breastfeeding and public nudity laws involving breasts are among the most clearly oppressive, clearly wrong laws we have on the books. They're a pinnacle of a double standard, and a crystal clear case of misogyny.
No joke.
While I agree with your sentiments, you have your political left/right spectrum mixed up. Left is authoritarian, not classical liberal.
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This shouldnt be illegal. They should just say how it should be done. I still dont see how a breast feeding a child is offensive to anyone. Its not sexual in that context
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Aerlinthian posted:
While I agree with your sentiments, you have your political left/right spectrum mixed up. Left is authoritarian, not classical liberal.
Left or Right can be authoritarian.
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I'm always more concerned that the mother is concerned about having to do it in public not that it can't/shouldn't be done but it's a pretty vulnerable feeling I'm sure to be in that situation especially with a hungry baby that's also taking your attention.
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Moe_Nox posted:
This is an issue raised entirely by small breasted women. No man is against bare breasts in public.
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I don't care, but it's a great excuse to post this pic.
I get a kick out if it every time I see it.
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While I agree with your sentiments, you have your political left/right spectrum mixed up. Left is authoritarian, not classical liberal.
Left or Right can be authoritarian.
This.
And you'll note that I initially said 'left' with quotes. If you hang around this board, you should know that means the pseudo-definition of left which I disavow as having any real meaning... but use as convention because that is what others use.
I constantly... CONSTANTLY... criticize the use of left-and-right in any real sense as meaningless. However, 'liberal' is also problematic.
The US politicos have done an excellent job of mangling and maligning these basic terms with emotional baggage to the point of being meaningless.
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Left or Right can be authoritarian.
I don't accept that chart system and I recommend to anyone on the real right not to accept it either. I've observed that, that system skews results and deceptively confuses the political spectrum. The political spectrum is far better understood as a simple flat line that people can't wiggle out of to make themselves feel better about their views.
Full tilt left is any kind of totalitarian state. Full tilt right is anarchy. In the American system of government the middle would be your constitutional moderate.
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Aerlinthian posted:
reesescups posted:
Left or Right can be authoritarian.
I don't accept that chart system and I recommend to anyone on the real right not to accept it either. I've observed that, that system skews results and deceptively confuses the political spectrum. The political spectrum is far better understood as a simple flat line that people can't wiggle out of to make themselves feel better about their views.
The world isn't black and white... Don't let all those colors confuse you too much, you might start getting all wiggly and stuffs.
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There's a chart I cannot find that's really better than the one reese posted, but I cannot find it right now.
It shows the same end result though... either 'left' or 'right' leads to authoritarianism and despotism. One is authoritarianism, despotic and enslaving in the macro, the other in the micro. But in the end it is the exact same impact to the individual's ability to live a free existence.
And again... I view them all as flawed because two-dimensions (or even four) doesn't really handle the matrix needed.
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Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:
And again... I view them all as flawed because two-dimensions (or even four) doesn't really handle the matrix needed.
This is why I consider a simple flat line to be less confusing, more educational and ultimately more honest. Make it simple and in turn make people appreciate where they really are.
Think about it this way, you have contemporary Liberals who you realize are really no such thing. They are more than willing to tell you how to run your life at every turn (the micro mangers you mentioned) but naturally they claim otherwise. And you so called conservatives who bleat about government but do nothing but make it bigger and worse when given the opportunity.
On a simple line system, all of those people can't wriggle their positions to shuck & jive others with. They are are clearly denoted on the line and can be judged accordingly. This is why I think many people don't like such a system because it won't give them a confirmation bias woody and it exposes them, maybe to even their own uncomfortable surprise.
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Trust aerhead to turn a thread about boobs into a discussion about how butthurt he is that him and his Nazi friends are called authoritarian. 
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Appreciate the humor, dammit! 
Shit, that should have been a /page!
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This thread turned out a lot more reasonable than I thought.
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I don't care, but it's a great excuse to post this pic.
I get a kick out if it every time I see it.
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Breasts are only offensive to men who cant get laid, flamboyant gays and women who dont have any
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BREAST FEEDING IS EXACTLY LIKE PEEING IN PUBLIC
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BREAST FEEDING IS EXACTLY LIKE PEEING IN PUBLIC
No its not. I believe it can be done discretely and its necessary for children
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Um, peeing in public can be done discreetly, just duck behind a car, pull out your cell phone and pretend to have a conversation as you let loose. It's also necessary too... You gotta go when you gotta go.
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Aerlinthian posted:
I don't accept that chart system because it conflicts with my world view and I recommend to anyone living outside reality not to accept it either. I've observed that, any system that doesn't agree with me deceptively confuses me. My political spectrum is far better understood as a simple flat line that is either 'agrees with my delusion' or left.
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Opposition to breast feeding in public is an intolerably archaic perspective. I really want to know who actually opposes it and their reasons for it.
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Its not sexual at all. I dont understand why people are opposed to it. If a kid sees it the mom of the kid could just explain that she is feeding the baby and it would be educational
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I don't mind a women breast feeding in public if she doesn't mind me staring. 
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I think it should be just like school. Don't bring anything out that you didn't bring enough to share.
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I am not a fan.
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