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the oldest animal ever discovered:  Gizmodo posted:
Scientists believe that this is the animal from which everything else evolved. The first multicellular being that spawned every living being in this world through billions of mutations, from fish to amphibians to reptiles to birds to mammals to you. It's an amazing discovery. Its name is Otavia antiqua, and it is the oldest animal ever discovered: 760 million years old. Scientists claim that it used to chill out in calm, nice, shallow waters, chewing on algae and bacteria through its pores and into its little tube body. Otavia was a sponge. A tiny one, no larger than a grain of sand. Paleontologist Dr. Bob Brain—famous for his work in hominids before his retirement—and geologist Anthony Prave—from the University of St. Andrews in Scotland—found the fossils of many hundreds of Otavia specimens in a rock at Etosha National Park, in Namibia. According to Prave, "certain samples would likely yield thousands of specimens. Thus, it is possible that the organisms were very abundant." Apparently, it was also very resilient. The research data—published in the South African Journal of Science—shows that it survived at least two Snowball Earths, events that researchers think happened more than 650 million years ago. During a Snowball Earth period, the entire planet was almost entirely covered with ice. The little critter persevered almost unchanged through those times, resisting along with algae and bacteria for roughly 200 million years, just before the Cambrian explosion, when Earth started to fill up with many different animals. Dr Brain—who is an expert in predation—believes that Otavia was also the Earth's first predator. During those very early days, it sat on top of the food chain, uncontested, eating his food even while it had no means to hunt. According to him, it was the first in the evolutionary arms race. Otavia, he says, "led to man dominating the planet." It doesn't look too menacing to me, but considering the its track record through those hundreds of millions of years, maybe Otavia was a BMF in disguise, after all.
http://gizmodo.com/5883539/you-come-from-this-thing-the-oldest-animal-ever-discovered
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way cool! Earlier today I read about a form of algae that can reach an age of 200 000 years.. that's freaking old!
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The Outpost is only a few steps descended therewith.
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dae_trist posted: WHARRGARBL
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BubbleDude posted:
dae_trist posted: WHARRGARBL
Behold exhibit A
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SirGarth posted: meet Otavia antiqua, your oldest ancestor
I'd do her.
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A liberal Muslim homosexual ACLU lawyer professor and abortion doctor was teaching a class on Karl Marx. "Before the class begins you must get on your knees and worship Marx and accept that he was the most highly-evolved being the world has ever known, even greater than Jesus Christ!" At this moment, a brave, patriotic, pro-life Navy SEAL champion who has served 1500 tours of duty and understood the necessity of war and fully supported all military decisions made by the United States stood up and held up a rock. "How old is this rock?" The arrogant professor smirked and smugly replied, "4.6 billion years, you stupid Christian" "Wrong. It's been 5,000 years since God created it. If it was 4.6 billion years old and evolution, as you say, is real... then it should be an animal now" The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and copy of Origin of the Species. He stormed out of the room crying those liberal crocodile tears. Semper Fi.
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so wait... 650 million years ago the planet used to completely cover itself in snow for an iceage? do you mean to say that we have stopped completely covering the earth in snow and have been on a massive warming trend since then? i guess those little spnge fuckers really screwed over future generations climates by pooping in the ocean
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2.5 billion years ago, cyanobacteria nearly wiped all life off the Earth by being the first critters to release oxygen as a metabolic waste process which was poisonous to everything else alive at the time and created an ice age that they themselves were ill suited to survive.
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I wonder why humans didnt keep the ability to photosynthesize and the ability to breathe underwater? Those seems like really handy bilities to have for survival. And its unfortunate that we lost our ability to eat bacteria ridden decayd flesh.
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Scarne posted: 2.5 billion years ago, cyanobacteria nearly wiped all life off the Earth by being the first critters to release oxygen as a metabolic waste process which was poisonous to everything else alive at the time and created an ice age that they themselves were ill suited to survive.
was it a "snowball earth" ice age? planet completely covered in ice from poles to equator?
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sweeny_comodore posted:
Scarne posted: 2.5 billion years ago, cyanobacteria nearly wiped all life off the Earth by being the first critters to release oxygen as a metabolic waste process which was poisonous to everything else alive at the time and created an ice age that they themselves were ill suited to survive.
was it a "snowball earth" ice age? planet completely covered in ice from poles to equator?
Yes.
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so its been slowly getting warmer since then as is obvious by the lack of snowball earth occurances...
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Yossarian_42 posted: A liberal Muslim homosexual ACLU lawyer professor and abortion doctor was teaching a class on Karl Marx. "Before the class begins you must get on your knees and worship Marx and accept that he was the most highly-evolved being the world has ever known, even greater than Jesus Christ!" At this moment, a brave, patriotic, pro-life Navy SEAL champion who has served 1500 tours of duty and understood the necessity of war and fully supported all military decisions made by the United States stood up and held up a rock. "How old is this rock?" The arrogant professor smirked and smugly replied, "4.6 billion years, you stupid Christian" "Wrong. It's been 5,000 years since God created it. If it was 4.6 billion years old and evolution, as you say, is real... then it should be an animal now" The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and copy of Origin of the Species. He stormed out of the room crying those liberal crocodile tears. Semper Fi.
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Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:
SirGarth posted: meet Otavia antiqua, your oldest ancestor
I'd do her.
I don't know what it is about this morning, but I just found that to be very funny!
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This must be an exhilarating moment for many here. 
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I suspect many of our resident "flying spaghetti monster" believers are having issues with this thread.
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eodoll posted: I wonder why humans didnt keep the ability to photosynthesize
That's kind of sorta how our eyes work.
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Sirs, perhaps there are those among you who believe you are descended from a ape. I suppose there may even be those among you who believe that I am descended from a ape. But I challenge the man to step forward who believes that General Robert E. Lee is descended from a ape.
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B_Shinkicker posted: Sirs, perhaps there are those among you who believe you are descended from a ape. I suppose there may even be those among you who believe that I am descended from a ape. But I challenge the man to step forward who believes that General Robert E. Lee is descended from a ape.
General Robert E. Lee was descended from an ape.
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eodoll posted: I wonder why humans didnt keep the ability to photosynthesize and the ability to breathe underwater? Those seems like really handy bilities to have for survival. And its unfortunate that we lost our ability to eat bacteria ridden decayd flesh.
During the ontogeny of the human embryo, it does have gill slits, and flippers. Organisms tend to lose their vestigial organs after several generations. As far as endosymbiotic organelles go, we did end up with mitochondria. I don't know when the divergence began, but it's possible that we didn't evolve from photosynthetic organisms. As far as eating decayed flesh goes, you can again think the lack of necessity for it. Although, it might be quite a while back since we shared a common ancestor of anything that eats carrion. I'm fairly certain that primates don't.
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So if evolution is real why can't I shoot lasers from my eyes, huh smartypants?
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My daddy weren't no sponge!!11
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so this thing was the pinnacle of life on earth from 650 million years ago, till about 200 millions years ago when life suddenly exploded around the cambrian period...
Correct me if im wrong, but there seems to be a gap in the evolutionary timeline there. How do we get from a sponge to a T-Rex that quickly?
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no I didnt
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Yup, you did.
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Mag-Galahad posted: so this thing was the pinnacle of life on earth from 650 million years ago, till about 200 millions years ago when life suddenly exploded around the cambrian period... Correct me if im wrong, but there seems to be a gap in the evolutionary timeline there. How do we get from a sponge to a T-Rex that quickly?
It wasn't the only animal for that long. That is just how long it survived.
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ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny
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Yukishiro1 posted: My daddy weren't no sponge!!11
But it seems your Mommy forgot hers!
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vn_nnanji posted:
Yukishiro1 posted: My daddy weren't no sponge!!11
But it seems your Mommy forgot hers!
I was starting to think no one would latch onto that...
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Scientists believe....... Scientists believe a lot of things depending on which one you talk with. Im just saying....
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Who else do you go to on this? Your mechanic?
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Might as well if they are going to throw shit out there that they say they believe. When they come back and say they are 100% certain or hell even 90% then make a story out of it. Might as well say we all came from cabby's mom and its just as believable.
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Scarne posted:
B_Shinkicker posted: Sirs, perhaps there are those among you who believe you are descended from a ape. I suppose there may even be those among you who believe that I am descended from a ape. But I challenge the man to step forward who believes that General Robert E. Lee is descended from a ape.
General Robert E. Lee was descended from an ape.
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B_Shinkicker posted:
Scarne posted: General Robert E. Lee was descended from an ape.
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Oh look Scarne - Shin shot himself in despair over your effrontery
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