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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/07/us/we-the-people-loses-appeal-with-people-around-the-world.html
The constitution of South Africa and the Canadian Charter of Human Rights have replaced the U.S. Constitution as a model in most of the world because it is too difficult to amend and does not guarantee the right to things such as food, education, and medical care.
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AzureTyger posted:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/07/us/we-the-people-loses-appeal-with-people-around-the-world.html
The constitution of South Africa and the Canadian Charter of Human Rights have replaced the U.S. Constitution as a model in most of the world because it is too difficult to amend and does not guarantee the right to things such as food, education, and medical care.
Well, it's about damned time they stopped stealing our IP!!!
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To be fair, the United States doesn't even look to the U.S. Constitution as a model
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MayorShade posted:
To be fair, the United States doesn't even look to the U.S. Constitution as a model
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MayorShade posted:
To be fair, the United States doesn't even look to the U.S. Constitution as a model
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most countries incorrectly define what a right is and are firm believers of big governments despite the horrible history of big governments and the shabby treatment of their people, especially those not in political favor
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MayorShade posted:
To be fair, the United States doesn't even look to the U.S. Constitution as a model
Hence why we are increasingly disintegrating into a fetid mess of corporatism, fascism, socialism and waring.
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The constitution of South Africa and the Canadian Charter of Human Rights have replaced the U.S. Constitution as a model in most of the world because it is too difficult to amend and does not guarantee the right to things such as food, education, and medical care.
When any government is strong enough to take from some and give to others it is strong enough to take away from all. Such governments typically drive the more energetic and industrious people away from them as well.
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I've been in the basement reading Ayn Rand again. Still have a crush on her!
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It's amazing how the framers froze in time the exact sum of all future human values!
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Rights are a human invention, as such they cannot be incorrect.
They are make believe, and subject to whims of the population and govs
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they are also subjective.
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AzureTyger posted:
It's amazing how the framers froze in time the exact sum of all future human values!
liberty never goes out of date
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Fat_wong posted:
Rights are a human invention, as such they cannot be incorrect
rights <> a good
rights <> a service
rights exist and are inherent to the individual. Place an individual alone on a deserted island and he can demonstrate his rights with ease
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so as such, you're saying you agree with me.
rights are subjective, and invented and as such can;t be incorrect
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The government now can force people to become doctors to treat you as is your right?
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Your government can press a button and wipe out civilization and you worry that it might give people health care? 
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Your government can press a button and wipe out civilization and you worry that it might give people health care?
I wish we'd use that button more. Things would be a lot easier for us!
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Heh..read about the notwithstanding clause, then you'll know why they like the canadian charter so much.
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Ruth Bader Ginsburg made similar comments the other day about how awful the U.S. constitution was and how new governments should look towards constitutions written since the end of WWII.
I had to laugh that someone that far whack-a-doodle left-wing pretends to care what is written in founding documents.
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They really shouldnt look to what it is now. But what it was when it was first written. The way things are now they shouldn't look to much to the US for much of anything really.
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I had to laugh that someone that far whack-a-doodle left-wing pretends to care what is written in founding documents.
If it was far whack-a-doodle right-wing you'd be sucking them off.
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Obama loves the Constitution I'm sure.
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i often wonder what the writers of the Australian constitution were thinking, well other than how much they hated aborigines and other asorted brown people.
ours is pretty much a big /fap fest to Queen Victoria
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AzureTyger posted:
It's amazing how the framers froze in time the exact sum of all future human values!
The constitution is only "frozen" because we as a people can agree on nothing anymore. I bet the framers would never have thought that our society would become so fractious.
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I've been in the basement reading Ayn Rand again. Still have a crush on her!
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Mag-Galahad posted:
AzureTyger posted:
It's amazing how the framers froze in time the exact sum of all future human values!
The constitution is only "frozen" because we as a people can agree on nothing anymore. I bet the framers would never have thought that our society would become so fractious.
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