steelsixsix posted:

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Stupid thing to say or you are being dishonest.

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Take a minute to let that sink in. The presumptive nominee for the Republican presidential nomination, in a class warfare/economy/jobs election, said on national television that he doesn’t care about the very poor in our country, but that the opposition party does. As @Slublog noted on Twitter, “The only thing that could have made that Romney quote worse is if he ended it by laughing manically and lighting a cigar with a $100 bill.”

Z-Elder posted:

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"The foundation has been the Romneys' main vehicle for giving, whether to keep the lights on with a $10,000 check to a homeless shelter for veterans that couldn't pay its electric bill or to send relief to victims of Hurricane Katrina ($10,000) and the South Asia earthquake and tsunami ($25,000).

The GOP presidential hopeful has donated $127,000 in proceeds from his 2010 campaign book, “No Apology: The Case for American Greatness." Seven charities serving children, cancer and MS patients and severely wounded veterans got donations ranging from $10,000 to nearly $33,000.

The businessman-turned-politician has also foregone payment for work he did as governor and as head of the Olympics.

As head of the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, Romney took no salary for three years while donating $1 million to the games. Later, while he was entitled to $135,000 annually as governor of Massachusetts, he drew a salary of $1 a year for serving as the state's chief executive. And while he hasn't explicitly said so this time around, Romney vowed during his last campaign for the White House that, if elected, he would donate his $400,000 salary as president to charity.

While her husband was forgoing a paycheck, Ann Romney donated her time to a variety of causes. She has worked as a board member of New England Chapter of the MS Society to raise awareness of multiple sclerosis, the disease with which she was diagnosed in 1998, and has been a long-time supporter of the United Way of Massachusetts. She also has served as director of the Best Friends Foundation, a controversial program that promotes abstinence-only sex education for inner-city girls.

Excluding gifts to the Mormon Church and BYU, the Romney foundation typically donated a bit more than $200,000 annually to charities over the last decade"


Evil!


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/11/mitt-romney-gives-million_n_924414.html

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Taliesihne posted:

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No, this is what happens when a professional campaigner doesn't get that he will be taken out of context.

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Tych2 posted:

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It wasn't a Freudian slip. Go watch the video and get the context and see what he actually said.

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Tych2 posted:

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Ok

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Tych2 posted:

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Manegarm posted:

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Z-Elder posted:

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"The foundation has been the Romneys' main vehicle for giving, whether to keep the lights on with a $10,000 check to a homeless shelter for veterans that couldn't pay its electric bill or to send relief to victims of Hurricane Katrina ($10,000) and the South Asia earthquake and tsunami ($25,000).

The GOP presidential hopeful has donated $127,000 in proceeds from his 2010 campaign book, “No Apology: The Case for American Greatness." Seven charities serving children, cancer and MS patients and severely wounded veterans got donations ranging from $10,000 to nearly $33,000.

The businessman-turned-politician has also foregone payment for work he did as governor and as head of the Olympics.

As head of the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, Romney took no salary for three years while donating $1 million to the games. Later, while he was entitled to $135,000 annually as governor of Massachusetts, he drew a salary of $1 a year for serving as the state's chief executive. And while he hasn't explicitly said so this time around, Romney vowed during his last campaign for the White House that, if elected, he would donate his $400,000 salary as president to charity.

While her husband was forgoing a paycheck, Ann Romney donated her time to a variety of causes. She has worked as a board member of New England Chapter of the MS Society to raise awareness of multiple sclerosis, the disease with which she was diagnosed in 1998, and has been a long-time supporter of the United Way of Massachusetts. She also has served as director of the Best Friends Foundation, a controversial program that promotes abstinence-only sex education for inner-city girls.

Excluding gifts to the Mormon Church and BYU, the Romney foundation typically donated a bit more than $200,000 annually to charities over the last decade"


Evil!


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/11/mitt-romney-gives-million_n_924414.html

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I also hear his company Bain Capital also made a shitload of people jobless, for efficiency sake.. I mean he and his made an investment they should make exuberant amounts of money on that, which they pay almost no taxes on and then the company they front goes bankrupt because of the loans they took in it's name, but they the investment firm still makes 300 mil, which they pay almost no taxes on. -is this the gist of the matter? I could be wrong, I so need to study economics when I get back to college.

The American way is really ingenious a system that lets the rich first of all exploit the weak and the laboring masses, then the rich people pay lobbyists who sees to it that that restrictions are never put in place to give the working class some leverage.. After that the rich more or less controls the propaganda which sees to it that the laboring masses actually fights for the rights of the poor rich guys.

It's quite brilliant and will probably end in extreme bloodshed the day the fat masses of uneducated Americans actually realize that that they're being used.

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sweeny_comodore posted:

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Manegarm posted:

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Z-Elder posted:

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"The foundation has been the Romneys' main vehicle for giving, whether to keep the lights on with a $10,000 check to a homeless shelter for veterans that couldn't pay its electric bill or to send relief to victims of Hurricane Katrina ($10,000) and the South Asia earthquake and tsunami ($25,000).

The GOP presidential hopeful has donated $127,000 in proceeds from his 2010 campaign book, “No Apology: The Case for American Greatness." Seven charities serving children, cancer and MS patients and severely wounded veterans got donations ranging from $10,000 to nearly $33,000.

The businessman-turned-politician has also foregone payment for work he did as governor and as head of the Olympics.

As head of the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, Romney took no salary for three years while donating $1 million to the games. Later, while he was entitled to $135,000 annually as governor of Massachusetts, he drew a salary of $1 a year for serving as the state's chief executive. And while he hasn't explicitly said so this time around, Romney vowed during his last campaign for the White House that, if elected, he would donate his $400,000 salary as president to charity.

While her husband was forgoing a paycheck, Ann Romney donated her time to a variety of causes. She has worked as a board member of New England Chapter of the MS Society to raise awareness of multiple sclerosis, the disease with which she was diagnosed in 1998, and has been a long-time supporter of the United Way of Massachusetts. She also has served as director of the Best Friends Foundation, a controversial program that promotes abstinence-only sex education for inner-city girls.

Excluding gifts to the Mormon Church and BYU, the Romney foundation typically donated a bit more than $200,000 annually to charities over the last decade"


Evil!


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/11/mitt-romney-gives-million_n_924414.html

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I also hear his company Bain Capital also made a shitload of people jobless, for efficiency sake.. I mean he and his made an investment they should make exuberant amounts of money on that, which they pay almost no taxes on and then the company they front goes bankrupt because of the loans they took in it's name, but they the investment firm still makes 300 mil, which they pay almost no taxes on. -is this the gist of the matter? I could be wrong, I so need to study economics when I get back to college.

The American way is really ingenious a system that lets the rich first of all exploit the weak and the laboring masses, then the rich people pay lobbyists who sees to it that that restrictions are never put in place to give the working class some leverage.. After that the rich more or less controls the propaganda which sees to it that the laboring masses actually fights for the rights of the poor rich guys.

It's quite brilliant and will probably end in extreme bloodshed the day the fat masses of uneducated Americans actually realize that that they're being used.

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im patiently waiting for that day.
sadly, it will never come.

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Tych2 posted:

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I learned how to do that from my nonnie. I still have her old colander and its got a wooden pestle. It looks just like this.




Everyone wanted it but since I am the oldest grandchild it was mine.


I don't do it often, but occasionally I will do it the old way.

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eodoll posted:

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I cant see how a guy like him could be elected. Dont the republucans have any polished candidates that are just a little more relatable?

This guy is making 20mil a year..he has no idea what 99% of americans or the world think about or deal with. He might as well be an alien.

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eodoll posted:

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I cant see how a guy like him could be elected. Dont the republucans have any polished candidates that are just a little more relatable?

This guy is making 20mil a year..he has no idea what 99% of americans or the world think about or deal with. He might as well be an alien.

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steelsixsix posted:

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Lol you guys and your double standards and silliness.

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Mitt Romney ad charges Obama said, 'If we keep talking about the economy, we’re going to lose'

On the eve of a presidential trip to New Hampshire on Nov. 22, 2011, Mitt Romney’s campaign released an ad targeting President Barack Obama. In the ad, the Romney campaign used a quote that prompted an immediate counterattack from the Obama camp, which argued that it had been taken out of context.

The 60-second ad, called "Believe in America," is designed to contrast "candidate Obama from 2008 with President Obama of today," highlighting "his failures in between," according to the Romney campaign.

The ad contrasts a 2008 campaign speech by Obama with text on the screen that criticizes Obama’s economic record, including, "Greatest Jobs Crisis Since Great Depression," "Record Home Foreclosures" and "Record National Debt."

The ad then has a clip of Obama saying,"If we keep talking about the economy, we’re going to lose."

The clear implication is that Obama believes that his economic record is so bad that he will lose in 2012 unless he can steer the conversation away from the economy.

But the Obama camp, among others, immediately charged that the clip was taken out of context. Was it?

Here’s what Obama said in the October 2008 speech, which came about two weeks before he defeated Sen. John McCain:

"Even as we face the most serious economic crisis of our time, even as you are worried about keeping your jobs or paying your bills or staying in your homes, my opponent's campaign announced earlier this month that they want to ‘turn the page’ on the discussion about our economy so they can spend the final weeks of this election attacking me instead," Obama said in the speech. "Sen. McCain's campaign actually said, and I quote, ‘If we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose.’"

So the comment is drastically different than the way it's portrayed in the Romney ad. Obama was actually saying that his opponent’s campaign three years earlier had said, "If we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose." That context is not included in the Romney ad -- and leaving it out sends a profoundly different message.

The Romney camp seems to have anticipated this complaint. In a blog post published around the time the ad was released, Romney spokeswoman Gail Gitcho acknowledged that, "Three years ago, candidate Barack Obama mocked his opponent’s campaign for saying, ‘If we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose.’" She went on to say Obama is trying to distract voters from his economic record.

Our ruling

We certainly think it’s fair for Romney to attack Obama for his response to the economy. And the Romney camp can argue that Obama’s situation in 2011 is ironic considering the comments he made in 2008. But those points could have been made without distorting Obama’s words, which have been taken out of context in a ridiculously misleading way. We rate the Romney ad’s portrayal of Obama’s 2008 comments Pants on Fire.

Bobvillas posted:

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I think you missed the good part to highlight from the article.

"We certainly think it’s fair for Romney to attack Obama for his response to the economy. And the Romney camp can argue that Obama’s situation in 2011 is ironic considering the comments he made in 2008."

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Fist_de_Yuma posted:

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Out of context lie. Very low.

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Ashmaele posted:

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Bobvillas posted:

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I think you missed the good part to highlight from the article.

"We certainly think it’s fair for Romney to attack Obama for his response to the economy. And the Romney camp can argue that Obama’s situation in 2011 is ironic considering the comments he made in 2008."

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No I saw it. It just has nothing to do with the fact that the Romney campaign basically lied about something Obama said and then defended it. hth

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