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Topic: Most industry desirable IT certificates?

Itab Title: I <3 Cookies Posts: 10,896 Registered: Feb 20, '06 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 10,650 User ID: 1,119,910	Subject: Most industry desirable IT certificates?
	I want to boost my resume up and grab some certificates that are hardware/networking related. Any thoughts as to which would be most useful? I'm going to avoid Cisco ones for the time being since they involve lengthy course work. -----signature----- I'd suck a fart out of your ass and hold it likea bong hit. --- cumbat_mage_sc Kasta Magier says, "SLEEP IN HELL NINJA BASTARDS" http://i25.tinypic.com/24b6u5v.jpg
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Sprawl-zero1eye- Title: IGN Vault Staff Reziztance iz Futile Posts: 53,263 Registered: Jun 28, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 52,657 User ID: 692,733	Subject: Most industry desirable IT certificates?
	In my opinion, virtualization certs like the VCP or CCA are hot right now. Why? Cause everyone is buzzing about cloud crap, and no one knows what the hell they are talking about. This is troublesome for CxOs and being able to say you are certified for virtualization goes a long way to reassuring them that they aren't about to go out of business for making the leap "into the cloud". -----signature----- Mirkwood MUD, OneEye IvoryFang, Lord of the VampireZ (Retired) AC Frostfell, Clan Z - Lvl 239 Grief Dagger (Retired) WoW Lightbringer Alliance, Z Guild - Lvl 85 Combat Rogue (Retired) Making iOS Apps these days at http://zsprawl.com/iOS
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Itab Title: I <3 Cookies Posts: 10,896 Registered: Feb 20, '06 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 10,650 User ID: 1,119,910	Subject: Most industry desirable IT certificates?
	Good to know. I'm going to look into that and see if its something I can learn. -----signature----- I'd suck a fart out of your ass and hold it likea bong hit. --- cumbat_mage_sc Kasta Magier says, "SLEEP IN HELL NINJA BASTARDS" http://i25.tinypic.com/24b6u5v.jpg
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Sprawl-zero1eye- Title: IGN Vault Staff Reziztance iz Futile Posts: 53,263 Registered: Jun 28, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 52,657 User ID: 692,733	Subject: Most industry desirable IT certificates?
	You gotta be pretty good with hardware and windows servers for starts. A good background in networking and storage is really helpful too. Some linux would be good as well. I suppose it is part of the reason why it is desirable... -----signature----- Mirkwood MUD, OneEye IvoryFang, Lord of the VampireZ (Retired) AC Frostfell, Clan Z - Lvl 239 Grief Dagger (Retired) WoW Lightbringer Alliance, Z Guild - Lvl 85 Combat Rogue (Retired) Making iOS Apps these days at http://zsprawl.com/iOS
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heiromancerdrackus Title: Is, indeed, a fat ass. Posts: 17,283 Registered: Dec 24, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 17,007 User ID: 573,741	Subject: Most industry desirable IT certificates?
	For starters: A+, N+, Sec +. For the short-term future: MCITP: Enterprise Support Admin. with a focus on Exchange and Active Directory For the long term, virtualization, because you can't just learn VMWare or Hyper-V by using a book. VMWare certification isnt even possible without a class, and it is DAMNED expensive. I just wrapped up my CompTIA certifications recently and I'm studying for 70-640 (Server 2008) certification. -----signature----- (none)
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-Mithan- Title: VNBoard Admin Posts: 1,000,060,379 Registered: Mar 1, '00 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 56,880 User ID: 13,156	Subject: Most industry desirable IT certificates?
	The Cisco CCNA/ICND course is very valuable in many areas. Anyways, in my view, you should look at companies you are considering working at and find out what they view as important. I've seen many people over the years go work their ass off for some certification that when they are interviewed, gets a "huh? whats that?" from the interviewer. -----signature----- I survived to the end and got nothing out of it, but hey.
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Sprawl-zero1eye- Title: IGN Vault Staff Reziztance iz Futile Posts: 53,263 Registered: Jun 28, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 52,657 User ID: 692,733	Subject: Most industry desirable IT certificates?
	I'm holding off on updating my Microsoft stuff since Windows 8 server will bring a whole new set of certs. -----signature----- Mirkwood MUD, OneEye IvoryFang, Lord of the VampireZ (Retired) AC Frostfell, Clan Z - Lvl 239 Grief Dagger (Retired) WoW Lightbringer Alliance, Z Guild - Lvl 85 Combat Rogue (Retired) Making iOS Apps these days at http://zsprawl.com/iOS
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Ookane Title: Moderator Posts: 7,677 Registered: Oct 15, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,539 User ID: 727,456	Subject: Most industry desirable IT certificates?
	Honestly, certs will only get a foot in the door most times (with a company you WANT to work for, if someone is hiring based only on certs you don't want to be there). The A+ N+ and Sec+ are the very bare minimum entry level certs for sure. That said, VM stuff is going a long way and gaining momentum. From a standpoint that you can easily have VM's physically on different servers spread across the country (or world) allowing a pool of power to draw from on the same app or service, if you lose one server, or location you are still up, and only lost some processing power. The ability to patch VM's one by one and cause you no downtime, move VHD's from server to server fast to spin up new site all are becoming more commonplace and are important for the target of maximum uptime. The lines are further blurring between server and network with the likes of iSCSI, FCoE, Windows 8 server and how it uses virtual switching on the NIC, as well as the advent of blade servers further invading the arena with specialized configurations on how the parts of these servers all interact and have networking built into them (HP, Cisco, IBM). -----signature----- WoW - Lightbringer server For the HORDE!!!
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Tai-Daishar_MT Title: Moderator Troll Eradicator Posts: 18,124 Registered: Mar 9, '00 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 16,150 User ID: 14,326	Subject: Most industry desirable IT certificates?
	Just a tip in the event you are interested in DOD Civilian or Contractor jobs. Certifications are mandated by the DOD. The specifics depend on the specific job. Typically, you will need both a security and an OS cert but there are some jobs that only require one of those. The position description for DOD civilian listings will specify what is required. As for contractor positions, if the listing does not specify make sure you ask during the interview. A lot of smaller DOD contractors have not figured out the requirements of the instruction mandating certs yet. -----signature----- Fare thee well VN, Vini, Vidi, Vici!
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Itab Title: I <3 Cookies Posts: 10,896 Registered: Feb 20, '06 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 10,650 User ID: 1,119,910	Subject: Most industry desirable IT certificates?
	Tai-Daishar_MT posted: Just a tip in the event you are interested in DOD Civilian or Contractor jobs. Certifications are mandated by the DOD. The specifics depend on the specific job. Typically, you will need both a security and an OS cert but there are some jobs that only require one of those. The position description for DOD civilian listings will specify what is required. As for contractor positions, if the listing does not specify make sure you ask during the interview. A lot of smaller DOD contractors have not figured out the requirements of the instruction mandating certs yet. This is interesting. Where would one find a listing of dod jobs? And do they offer remote jobs or contracts? -----signature----- I'd suck a fart out of your ass and hold it likea bong hit. --- cumbat_mage_sc Kasta Magier says, "SLEEP IN HELL NINJA BASTARDS" http://i25.tinypic.com/24b6u5v.jpg
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Lumpus Title: Forbidden Eldritch Historian Posts: 9,297 Registered: Jun 1, '00 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 8,425 User ID: 27,264	Subject: Most industry desirable IT certificates?
	I'll take the contrarian view that NONE of the certs ever really end up paying for themselves - unless your employer pays for them for you! I did that treadmill for years, getting certs and then more certs to eventually find that the ones employers really seemed to want were the classes that cost 25-50k... and even then they weren't to pay the cost for you to go, or compensate your salary for having them in the first place. When I finally gave up trying to work in IT (after 30 years of experience), employers were wanting full Cisco, 5 different MS certs, plus all of the other usual suspects... and then only willing to pay $12-15 an hour (at most - no benefits). WAY TOO MUCH supply of kids willing to work for almost nothing now. -----signature----- Bearstorm - "I will sign up for therapy, promise to go out in the sun 2-5minutes a day, and I will take my 15dollars a month budgeted to MMOS and put it to good use.... additional subscriptions to porn sites."
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heiromancerdrackus Title: Is, indeed, a fat ass. Posts: 17,283 Registered: Dec 24, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 17,007 User ID: 573,741	Subject: Most industry desirable IT certificates?
	Lumpus posted: I'll take the contrarian view that NONE of the certs ever really end up paying for themselves - unless your employer pays for them for you! I did that treadmill for years, getting certs and then more certs to eventually find that the ones employers really seemed to want were the classes that cost 25-50k... and even then they weren't to pay the cost for you to go, or compensate your salary for having them in the first place. When I finally gave up trying to work in IT (after 30 years of experience), employers were wanting full Cisco, 5 different MS certs, plus all of the other usual suspects... and then only willing to pay $12-15 an hour (at most - no benefits). WAY TOO MUCH supply of kids willing to work for almost nothing now. I'll take the view that you were working for terrible people / applying for terrible positions. I'm doing better than that and I don't even have an IT degree from college. Consultants at my job, SMEs in Exchange / Citrix / make almost 6 figures. And that is low. My buddy never even graduated from university and is making $55k a year, full benefits and 40k w/ matching doing software support. My mind is truly blown that your prospects could be THAT terrible. I think you are either grossly exaggerating or you aren't giving the whole story. -----signature----- (none)
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Sprawl-zero1eye- Title: IGN Vault Staff Reziztance iz Futile Posts: 53,263 Registered: Jun 28, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 52,657 User ID: 692,733	Subject: Most industry desirable IT certificates?
	Certs aren't everything but the knowledge helps! How you prove it is up to you. Some people, especially the shy quieter types, tend to find certs easier to get their foot in the door to get a chance to prove themselves. That doesn't mean they are required. -----signature----- Mirkwood MUD, OneEye IvoryFang, Lord of the VampireZ (Retired) AC Frostfell, Clan Z - Lvl 239 Grief Dagger (Retired) WoW Lightbringer Alliance, Z Guild - Lvl 85 Combat Rogue (Retired) Making iOS Apps these days at http://zsprawl.com/iOS
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heiromancerdrackus Title: Is, indeed, a fat ass. Posts: 17,283 Registered: Dec 24, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 17,007 User ID: 573,741	Subject: Most industry desirable IT certificates?
	Sprawl-zero1eye- posted: Certs aren't everything but the knowledge helps! How you prove it is up to you. Some people, especially the shy quieter types, tend to find certs easier to get their foot in the door to get a chance to prove themselves. That doesn't mean they are required. Tenaciousness got my foot in the door, but that's me. Certifications are pretty necessary to get you an interview with a company you have no 'in' with, but not to get you the job. -----signature----- (none)
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Tai-Daishar_MT Title: Moderator Troll Eradicator Posts: 18,124 Registered: Mar 9, '00 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 16,150 User ID: 14,326	Subject: Most industry desirable IT certificates?
	Itab posted: Tai-Daishar_MT posted: Just a tip in the event you are interested in DOD Civilian or Contractor jobs. Certifications are mandated by the DOD. The specifics depend on the specific job. Typically, you will need both a security and an OS cert but there are some jobs that only require one of those. The position description for DOD civilian listings will specify what is required. As for contractor positions, if the listing does not specify make sure you ask during the interview. A lot of smaller DOD contractors have not figured out the requirements of the instruction mandating certs yet. This is interesting. Where would one find a listing of dod jobs? And do they offer remote jobs or contracts? http://www.usajobs.gov/ That is the official site to look for gov't jobs. I am a defense contractor myself but I work with DoD civilians everyday. As a general rule, contractors make more but the work is not as secure as gov't jobs. If you want contractor work you'll have to do some research. There are lots of companies out there to choose from. Many flock to the bigger companies, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Booz Allen Hamilton, SAIC, etc but there are a large amount of smaller companies that are great places to work. As for remote jobs, yes. I am a remote employee with a flexible arrangement. I have an office on a military base as well as a home office and I have the choice of which to work in on a daily basis. -----signature----- Fare thee well VN, Vini, Vidi, Vici!
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