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Obama, however, beats Gingrich by a whopping 18 points, 55-37 percent, expanding the president’s 11-point lead a month ago.
Please oh please let him be the nominee!
As much as conservatards hate Obama, there isn't a credible alternative. Whatever problems people have with Obama's performance, nobody seriously thinks that any Republican will do any better, especially after how they effed things up the last time they were in charge.
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Still a long ways to go.
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While we certainly have tards running for the Repub nomination, I don't think we can afford 4 more years of Obama.
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I do see that Gingrich has some awesome money saving ideas, like promising to have a permanently manned moon base by 2020. So he cant be all bad.
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Tai-Daishar_MT posted:
While we certainly have tards running for the Repub nomination, I don't think we can afford 4 more years of Obama.
I don't think we can afford 4 years of any of the Republicans.
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I don't think it matters who wins. The economy will still be in recovery and dems blame repubs and vice versa.
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I don't think it matters who wins. The economy will still be in recovery and dems blame repubs and vice versa.
First intelligent post in this thread
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gonna have to ban ferry, cant have that on acf..
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gonna have to ban ferry, can have that on acf..
Pfft you're getting soft, I bet you can't find the ban button with both hands and a map.
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Well with the spending track record of republicans in recent years Tai, are you sure we can afford a republican president?
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i can too!!
its...its...
just a sec....
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The only thing the US can afford right now is an empty Congress and Oval Office
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At least mainstream America isn't half as retarded as Republican primary voters. Is there a bigger bunch of mouth breathers than those guys?
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At least mainstream America isn't half as retarded as Republican primary voters. Is there a bigger bunch of mouth breathers than those guys?
Yes.
The morons they're voting for.
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Tai-Daishar_MT posted:
While we certainly have tards running for the Repub nomination, I don't think we can afford 4 more years of Obama.
It's more affordable than any alternative.
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gonna have to ban ferry, cant have that on acf..
It was a fluke and I doubt it will happen again.
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Neither one of these chumps stands for my interests. Obama will win simply because he's the more handsome and telegenic of the two candidates. Politics in America is no less shallow than that.
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Neither one of these chumps stands for my interests. Obama will win simply because he's the more handsome and telegenic of the two candidates. Politics in America is no less shallow than that.
This
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Whatever problems people have with Obama's performance, nobody seriously thinks that any Republican will do any better, especially after how they effed things up the last time they were in charge.
No, I've heard many Republicans be completely serious with their comments about how much better things would be if they were in charge.
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One thing you never hear though is: "XXXX was better back in the bush years......"
No one is that dumb except one resident poster.
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profanity was better in the bush years...
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profanity was better in the bush years...
There was certainly more of it.
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And yet Obama's disapproval rating is 52%
and 64% believe the country is on the wrong track
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And yet Obama's disapproval rating is 52%
and 64% believe the country is on the wrong track
So what does that say about Gingrich then? He's such a bad candidate that an unpopular president is 18 points more popular? Guess his disapproval rating must be in the 70s!
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a_bloke posted:
And yet Obama's disapproval rating is 52%
and 64% believe the country is on the wrong track
So what does that say about Gingrich then? He's such a bad candidate that an unpopular president is 18 points more popular? Guess his disapproval rating must be in the 70s!
It would appear so!
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a_bloke posted:
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a_bloke posted:
And yet Obama's disapproval rating is 52%
and 64% believe the country is on the wrong track
So what does that say about Gingrich then? He's such a bad candidate that an unpopular president is 18 points more popular? Guess his disapproval rating must be in the 70s!
It would appear so!
We should be clear though, no politician is popular right now. Hell, a lot of liberals are upset with Obama about various things (which is reflected in the approval rating), but will go to the polls to vote against Gingrich or Romney in a heartbeat. Politics is bulls**t right now.
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We should be clear though, no politician is popular right now. Hell, a lot of liberals are upset with Obama about various things (which is reflected in the approval rating), but will go to the polls to vote against Gingrich or Romney in a heartbeat. Politics is bulls**t right now.
Not so sure about that. Like someone said, it's still early.
Just look at Obama in 08. He was a nobody until he won the primary then he picked up momentum and took the election running away.
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profanity was better in the bush years...
There was certainly more of it.
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a_bloke posted:
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We should be clear though, no politician is popular right now. Hell, a lot of liberals are upset with Obama about various things (which is reflected in the approval rating), but will go to the polls to vote against Gingrich or Romney in a heartbeat. Politics is bulls**t right now.
Not so sure about that. Like someone said, it's still early.
Just look at Obama in 08. He was a nobody until he won the primary then he picked up momentum and took the election running away.
Obama networked his 08' campaign better and tapped into the college vote with his "register early" initiative on major campuses all over the country. That helped him greatly in the election.
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The only morons are the American people as a whole.
Getting fired up over which pandering criminal will be better in the Office of the President.
The problem is career politicians, lobbying, and size of government.
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I like how everyone focuses on the president at all times when his powers are limited compared to congress. I don't get it with you America, I try to understand but it just doesn't make any sense.
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I like how everyone focuses on the president at all times when his powers are limited compared to congress. I don't get it with you America, I try to understand but it just doesn't make any sense.
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
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Lothland posted:
I like how everyone focuses on the president at all times when his powers are limited compared to congress. I don't get it with you America, I try to understand but it just doesn't make any sense.
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
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Hey... it's what the people want, obviously. 
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I don't know about you guys, but everyone I know was better off during the Bush years. He got the economy back on track during the recession that followed 9/11 attacks, which were a direct result of the Clinton regimes intelligence failures.
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I don't know about you guys, but everyone I know was better off during the Bush years. He got the economy back on track during the recession that followed 9/11 attacks, which were a direct result of the Clinton regimes intelligence failures.
Didn't he drop interest rates which led to an increasing in borrowing, which helped accelerate the housing bubble growth and collapse?
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Didn't he drop interest rates
No.
Though interest rates dropped while he was in office, he did not drop them.
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I don't know about you guys, but everyone I know was better off during the Bush years. He got the economy back on track during the recession that followed 9/11 attacks, which were a direct result of the Clinton regimes intelligence failures.
The Clinton Regime's intelligence failures were a direct result of people like you voting for assholes who bankrupt the country.
Basically, you have a Cycle in the US:
Democrats get a crappy economy from a Republican President, spend all their terms cleaning it up which leads to making the Republicans look good when they get back into power and break it all.
Repeat.
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We should be clear though, no politician is popular right now. Hell, a lot of liberals are upset with Obama about various things (which is reflected in the approval rating), but will go to the polls to vote against Gingrich or Romney in a heartbeat. Politics is bulls**t right now.
Not so sure about that. Like someone said, it's still early.
Just look at Obama in 08. He was a nobody until he won the primary then he picked up momentum and took the election running away.
To be fair, he had name recognition from speaking years earlier and he had a MASSIVE youth/grass roots movement behind him in Iowa.
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Gingrich is a southern boy who bet a Yankee (Romney) in a neigboring southern state, BFD.
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Ferrydust posted:
I don't think it matters who wins. The economy will still be in recovery and dems blame repubs and vice versa.
It matters because the economy isn't going to magically recover itself. The policy set today and over the next four years will have a major impact on how long it takes to recover.
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Lothland posted:
I like how everyone focuses on the president at all times when his powers are limited compared to congress. I don't get it with you America, I try to understand but it just doesn't make any sense.
It's not worth trying to understand as we are so far off the rails that any attempt at understanding will lead to apoplexy as to how we got here. (Unless of course you really value history, are willing to do a lot of your own research and willing to risk apoplexy when the realizations of each horribly wrong turn we took becomes apparent)
We need a violent reset. That is the long and short of it. More of the same isn't acceptable and anyone who thinks it is, is either an establishment hack or in cowardice of what needs to be done. Because where we are at is already not pretty and it is not going to get any better while treading the same path.
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ACX posted:
Ferrydust posted:
I don't think it matters who wins. The economy will still be in recovery and dems blame repubs and vice versa.
It matters because the economy isn't going to magically recover itself. The policy set today and over the next four years will have a major impact on how long it takes to recover.
Ferrydust is correct about the attitudes of partisans. It does matter because the independents will not be so predictable. Gingrich's demagoguery plays very well with tea partiers and he has managed to convince a lot of the religious right that he has changed his ways. But with independent thinkers his record speaks for itself. Romney is far from an excellent choice but choosing Gingrich will probably lose the Republicans some seats in Congress.
Gas prices are likely to skyrocket and then Obama will not look so solid. A conservative activist court agreed with Romney that "Corporations are people, my friend" so superpacs will be a factor. There is a lot of time left before the fat lady sings. The drama has barely started.
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Aerlinthian posted:
We need a violent reset.
Lol, go grab your gun then.
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Libertarians are anarchists without the balls.
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