Cuttlery
Title: Wanna see what you missed?
Posts:
76,924
Registered:
Jan 9, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 72,785
User ID: 62,026
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
Obama single handedly kills 9 Pirates
http://www.startribune.com/world/138034183.html
MOGADISHU, Somalia - U.S. Navy SEALs parachuted into Somalia under cover of darkness early Wednesday and crept up to an outdoor camp where an American woman and Danish man were being held hostage. Soon, nine kidnappers were dead and both hostages were freed.
President Barack Obama himself authorized the mission two days earlier, and minutes after he gave his State of the Union address to Congress he was on the phone with the American's father to tell him his daughter was safe.
"As Commander-in-Chief, I could not be prouder of the troops who carried out this mission, and the dedicated professionals who supported their efforts," Obama said in a statement released by the White House.
The Danish Refugee Council confirmed that the two aid workers, American Jessica Buchanan and Dane Poul Hagen Thisted, were "on their way to be reunited with their families."
Buchanan, 32, and Thisted, 60, were working with a de-mining unit of the Danish Refugee Council when gunmen kidnapped the two in October.
-----signature-----
0.o
Bored and Useless
|
|
Link to this post
|
AkagiyamaMissile
Title: Lord of the Lactose Intolerant
Posts:
41,132
Registered:
Apr 22, '03
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 40,523
User ID: 793,759
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
-----signature-----
Stupidity is hard to get rid of, but at least I can admit I have a problem -Mithan-
Gobble Gobble Mother******! -Thankskilling
and off course divers license don't count either this sucks balls.-FD
Bring it on like Donkey Kong
|
|
Link to this post
|
regulator_cracka
Title: They finally recognized greatness.
Posts:
22,259
Registered:
Jan 6, '09
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 22,219
User ID: 1,343,795
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
Oh I can not wait till this campaign is added to MW or CoD so I can second guess every move they made like the internet expert I am.
I do love how he lets our bad asses do what they do best, 9 dead, 2 alive. Very clean!
*
-----signature-----
Self Appointed Smart Ass - Level 80
If you think my opinion is idiotic, re-read yours.
Dont worry I will give my opinion anyways.
The PvP MMO is NOT a "niche" market, Mythic is just a "niche" company.
|
|
Link to this post
|
HeartView
Title: Be right back...
Posts:
39,286
Registered:
Dec 20, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 38,575
User ID: 561,961
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
|
In my mind, this is what our military should be used for. Get in, get it done right, get out. Not "find a new place to live for a few decades".
-----signature-----
"My brothers and sisters all hated me because I was an only child." http://www.indiefl.com/acf/profile/86 PM me for the password to my Photobucket: http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v455/HeartView/
|
|
Link to this post
|
Cuttlery
Title: Wanna see what you missed?
Posts:
76,924
Registered:
Jan 9, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 72,785
User ID: 62,026
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
|
I heard Lord General Obama planned the raid personally.
-----signature-----
0.o
Bored and Useless
|
|
Link to this post
|
vn_anon63xxx
Title: Darwin's Revenge
Posts:
68,278
Registered:
Mar 12, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 66,925
User ID: 73,259
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
|
We should not rescue people stupid enough to go to Somalia.
-----signature-----
(none)
|
|
Link to this post
|
regulator_cracka
Title: They finally recognized greatness.
Posts:
22,259
Registered:
Jan 6, '09
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 22,219
User ID: 1,343,795
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
-----signature-----
Self Appointed Smart Ass - Level 80
If you think my opinion is idiotic, re-read yours.
Dont worry I will give my opinion anyways.
The PvP MMO is NOT a "niche" market, Mythic is just a "niche" company.
|
|
Link to this post
|
suntzukali2
Posts:
21,648
Registered:
Jan 23, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 21,117
User ID: 626,430
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
Cuttlery posted:
I heard Lord General Obama planned the raid personally.
if shrub was in charge we still be looking for the place to raid.
-----signature-----
The ultimate end of all revolutionary social change is to establish the sanctity of human life, the dignity of man, the right of every human being to liberty and well-being. Emma Goldman self portrait http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v375/xyzzy11686
|
|
Link to this post
|
Cuttlery
Title: Wanna see what you missed?
Posts:
76,924
Registered:
Jan 9, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 72,785
User ID: 62,026
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
suntzukali2 posted:
Cuttlery posted:
I heard Lord General Obama planned the raid personally.
if shrub was in charge we still be looking for the place to raid.
completely false, we'd have raided Peru.
-----signature-----
0.o
Bored and Useless
|
|
Link to this post
|
HeartView
Title: Be right back...
Posts:
39,286
Registered:
Dec 20, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 38,575
User ID: 561,961
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
vn_anon63xxx posted:
We should not rescue people stupid enough to go to Somalia.
The Somalian pirates need to be stopped. They're getting far more aggressive and spreading out over time.
They're terrorists, aren't we at war with terrorism?
-----signature-----
"My brothers and sisters all hated me because I was an only child." http://www.indiefl.com/acf/profile/86 PM me for the password to my Photobucket: http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v455/HeartView/
|
|
Link to this post
|
vn_anon63xxx
Title: Darwin's Revenge
Posts:
68,278
Registered:
Mar 12, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 66,925
User ID: 73,259
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
HeartView posted:
vn_anon63xxx posted:
We should not rescue people stupid enough to go to Somalia.
The Somalian pirates need to be stopped. They're getting far more aggressive and spreading out over time.
They're terrorists, aren't we at war with terrorism?
They were not kidnapped by pirates. They were WILLINGLY in Somalia participating in de-mining efforts.
While I might appreciate their eagerness to put their own lives at risk while pursuing humanitarian causes, I don't believe we should spend a dime trying to rescue them once the inevitable happens.
-----signature-----
(none)
|
|
Link to this post
|
Fallen_daemon
Posts:
54,593
Registered:
Jul 28, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 53,783
User ID: 285,476
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
|
wasted money on idiots aid workers who volunteer work in a war zone.
-----signature-----
Fight white guilt and injustice by going to a Native American casino and gamble your money away. me pic http://acf.curbjaw.com/armchair.htm Formerly known as :armchair warrior, sysphus, fallen_deamon http://www.facebook.com/help/contact.php?show_form
|
|
Link to this post
|
suntzukali2
Posts:
21,648
Registered:
Jan 23, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 21,117
User ID: 626,430
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
Cuttlery posted:
suntzukali2 posted:
Cuttlery posted:
I heard Lord General Obama planned the raid personally.
if shrub was in charge we still be looking for the place to raid.
completely false, we'd have raided Peru.
can't argue history proves this to be true.
-----signature-----
The ultimate end of all revolutionary social change is to establish the sanctity of human life, the dignity of man, the right of every human being to liberty and well-being. Emma Goldman self portrait http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v375/xyzzy11686
|
|
Link to this post
|
HeartView
Title: Be right back...
Posts:
39,286
Registered:
Dec 20, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 38,575
User ID: 561,961
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
vn_anon63xxx posted:
HeartView posted:
The Somalian pirates need to be stopped. They're getting far more aggressive and spreading out over time.
They're terrorists, aren't we at war with terrorism?
They were not kidnapped by pirates. They were WILLINGLY in Somalia participating in de-mining efforts.
While I might appreciate their eagerness to put their own lives at risk while pursuing humanitarian causes, I don't believe we should spend a dime trying to rescue them once the inevitable happens.
Sorry, Cutt added the part about pirates, not the article.
Hell, I bet this was easy enough to be considered a training op for the seals, though. 
-----signature-----
"My brothers and sisters all hated me because I was an only child." http://www.indiefl.com/acf/profile/86 PM me for the password to my Photobucket: http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v455/HeartView/
|
|
Link to this post
|
Fozzie_Bear
Posts:
48,479
Registered:
Dec 20, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 47,515
User ID: 558,887
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
vn_anon63xxx posted:
HeartView posted:
vn_anon63xxx posted:
We should not rescue people stupid enough to go to Somalia.
The Somalian pirates need to be stopped. They're getting far more aggressive and spreading out over time.
They're terrorists, aren't we at war with terrorism?
They were not kidnapped by pirates. They were WILLINGLY in Somalia participating in de-mining efforts.
While I might appreciate their eagerness to put their own lives at risk while pursuing humanitarian causes, I don't believe we should spend a dime trying to rescue them once the inevitable happens.
I agree. We have no place violating the borders of another soverign nation with military forces without it expressly being allowed by its legitimate government.
-----signature-----
The Oatmeal Butterscotch paired with a Snickerdoodle
turned my cynical penis into a happy vagina
Then after an Oatmeal Cranberry and Double Chocolate,
it made my new vagina spontaneously sing the Trolololo Song in an elevator.
---AkagiyamaMissile
|
|
Link to this post
|
notmforce2k
Posts:
96,434
Registered:
Oct 9, '11
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 2,235
User ID: 1,430,866
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
HeartView posted:
In my mind, this is what our military should be used for. Get in, get it done right, get out. Not "find a new place to live for a few decades".
It is the way the world is going. Globalized world requires globalized action. Less need for mass forces and occupation, more need for special ops and specific, short infiltrations. Of course we need a standing military but the full scale invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq were foolish.
-----signature-----
(none)
|
|
Link to this post
|
suntzukali2
Posts:
21,648
Registered:
Jan 23, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 21,117
User ID: 626,430
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
Fozzie_Bear posted:
vn_anon63xxx posted:
HeartView posted:
[quote=vn_anon63xxx]We should not rescue people stupid enough to go to Somalia.
The Somalian pirates need to be stopped. They're getting far more aggressive and spreading out over time.
They're terrorists, aren't we at war with terrorism?
They were not kidnapped by pirates. They were WILLINGLY in Somalia participating in de-mining efforts.
While I might appreciate their eagerness to put their own lives at risk while pursuing humanitarian causes, I don't believe we should spend a dime trying to rescue them once the inevitable happens.
I agree. We have no place violating the borders of another soverign nation with military forces without it expressly being allowed by its legitimate government.[/quote]
no
A nation has a responsibility to protect its citizens.
-----signature-----
The ultimate end of all revolutionary social change is to establish the sanctity of human life, the dignity of man, the right of every human being to liberty and well-being. Emma Goldman self portrait http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v375/xyzzy11686
|
|
Link to this post
|
Fozzie_Bear
Posts:
48,479
Registered:
Dec 20, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 47,515
User ID: 558,887
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
Did u see us go into Iran for those hikers?
There's a reason we stuck to diplomatic channels.
-----signature-----
The Oatmeal Butterscotch paired with a Snickerdoodle
turned my cynical penis into a happy vagina
Then after an Oatmeal Cranberry and Double Chocolate,
it made my new vagina spontaneously sing the Trolololo Song in an elevator.
---AkagiyamaMissile
|
|
Link to this post
|
Gaevren
Title: Wat do?
Posts:
18,183
Registered:
Sep 15, '04
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 17,906
User ID: 967,012
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
Fozzie_Bear posted:
Did u see us go into Iran for those hikers?
There's a reason we stuck to diplomatic channels.
That would be because the hikers were arrested by the government there, not kidnapped by pirates.
-----signature-----
There are no automatic doors, just very polite ninjas
|
|
Link to this post
|
JD_HOGG
Posts:
19,975
Registered:
Mar 18, '08
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 19,893
User ID: 1,285,011
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
|
Why do we still have Somali pirates sailing around taking prisoners? Obamafail he can't even keep Africans from pirating.
-----signature-----
(none)
|
|
Link to this post
|
Ptilk
Title: Creepy old pirate
Posts:
50,658
Registered:
Feb 13, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 48,530
User ID: 645,124
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
We didn't go into Iran because every day the Iranians held them...the USA looked better to the rest of the world. Plus we knew we would eventually get them out. Seems that sorta worked for us when the Iranians took hostages in the past.... 
Somalia has no legitimate government in control of the vast majority of the country , those hostages were as good as dead and letting it go unpunished would simply encourage other bastards to imitate the actions of the bastards who kidnapped them.
The US special forces did exactly what they are trained to do. Their job. Protect America, it's people and it's interests anywhere on earth they can do so effectively.
Damn fine job. Damn fine decision by our CIC.
-----signature-----
(none)
|
|
Link to this post
|
Tipztoe
Posts:
26,665
Registered:
Mar 1, '04
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 23,788
User ID: 900,300
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
Cuttlery posted:
suntzukali2 posted:
Cuttlery posted:
I heard Lord General Obama planned the raid personally.
if shrub was in charge we still be looking for the place to raid.
completely false, we'd have raided Peru.
their limericks have been taunting us for some time now..
-----signature-----
(none)
|
|
Link to this post
|
regulator_cracka
Title: They finally recognized greatness.
Posts:
22,259
Registered:
Jan 6, '09
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 22,219
User ID: 1,343,795
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
Nantucket, Peru? 
-----signature-----
Self Appointed Smart Ass - Level 80
If you think my opinion is idiotic, re-read yours.
Dont worry I will give my opinion anyways.
The PvP MMO is NOT a "niche" market, Mythic is just a "niche" company.
|
|
Link to this post
|
vn_anon63xxx
Title: Darwin's Revenge
Posts:
68,278
Registered:
Mar 12, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 66,925
User ID: 73,259
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
These highly specialized troops are supposed to be used to track down and eliminate the most dangerous terrorists in the world. These men are very expensive to train and deploy.
As such, we should only use them in causes that meet some sort of risk vs reward criteria.
Under no circumstances should we be risking an entire SEAL team to rescue a single american citizen who voluntarily entered a war zone to perform humanitarian work.
If you're dumb enough to travel to Somalia then you need to suffer the consequences resulting from your stupidity.
-----signature-----
(none)
|
|
Link to this post
|
HeartView
Title: Be right back...
Posts:
39,286
Registered:
Dec 20, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 38,575
User ID: 561,961
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
vn_anon63xxx posted:
These highly specialized troops are supposed to be used to track down and eliminate the most dangerous terrorists in the world. These men are very expensive to train and deploy.
As such, we should only use them in causes that meet some sort of risk vs reward criteria.
Under no circumstances should we be risking an entire SEAL team to rescue a single american citizen who voluntarily entered a war zone to perform humanitarian work.
If you're dumb enough to travel to Somalia then you need to suffer the consequences resulting from your stupidity.
Where do you draw the line? If it was another solider/operative in there and they rescued them would it be ok? An official of some sort, like a diplomat? A school bus full of kids?
What about location? Is one location a good idea and another a poor idea? If these people were help hostage by a terrorist organization would that make it ok? If the terrorists were in Pakistan instead?
What if they were black Muslim extremist pirates from France?
-----signature-----
"My brothers and sisters all hated me because I was an only child." http://www.indiefl.com/acf/profile/86 PM me for the password to my Photobucket: http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v455/HeartView/
|
|
Link to this post
|
Tipztoe
Posts:
26,665
Registered:
Mar 1, '04
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 23,788
User ID: 900,300
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
regulator_cracka posted:
Nantucket, Peru?
you never fell asleep in a canoe or dreamed of Venus?
-----signature-----
(none)
|
|
Link to this post
|
Ah-Schoo
Title: Fuzzy Caterpillar of Friendliness
Posts:
71,317
Registered:
Aug 11, '00
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 68,974
User ID: 39,247
|
Subject:
Navy SEALS raid Somali camp, rescue Danish and American hostages (all praise to Obama)
|
Fozzie_Bear posted:
vn_anon63xxx posted:
They were not kidnapped by pirates. They were WILLINGLY in Somalia participating in de-mining efforts.
While I might appreciate their eagerness to put their own lives at risk while pursuing humanitarian causes, I don't believe we should spend a dime trying to rescue them once the inevitable happens.
I agree. We have no place violating the borders of another soverign nation with military forces without it expressly being allowed by its legitimate government.
Isn't Somalia a libertarian paradise though?
-----signature-----
.
Opinion = fact. Anecdote = proof. Political label more important than either of those.
Welcome to ACF, where debate goes to die.
.
"fascist totalitarian secular progressive Zionist intellectually challenged Christian puppets." - Aerlinthina
|
|
Link to this post
|
