Ravynmagi posted:

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Anonymous sure is quick. They've already taken down mpaa.org, justice.gov, riaa.com, and universalmusic.com. Working on whitehouse.gov now.

http://rt.com/usa/news/anonymous-doj-universal-sopa-235/

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Aerlinthian posted:

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This is a despotic government desperately seeking to extend not just physical command and control but psychological command and control. I hope these authoritarian clods end up creating many thousands of anti government minded people.

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Ah-Schoo posted:

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Aerlinthian posted:

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This is a despotic government desperately seeking to extend not just physical command and control but psychological command and control. I hope these authoritarian clods end up creating many thousands of anti government minded people.

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Have a source for any of that?

Despotic government? More like bought and paid for by RIAA etc.

Desperately seeking? No evidence of desperation, this appears to simply be rhetoric or maybe wishful thinking.

Psychological command and control? You're equating SOPA, which is a simply misguided attempt to save a declining industry through legislation to psychological warfare on the US population...

Your extremist rhetoric is misplaced.

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Marzuk posted:

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Meh, people can and will pay for reasonable alternatives. As Gabe Newell said: its a service problem. Just look at how they are trying to clamp down. Redbox is seen a threat, so WB wants a 58 day wait from when a movie is released to DVD to when you can rent it. Sorry, I know they want to sell new seasons of TV shows for $60, but there is no way in hell that's viable.

Game developers / publishers are trying to strip parts out of the game and provide a one time online code to prevent resale. Cmon man, resale has been an "issue" where the original author doesn't get more money since the dawn of.. uh, "content". A painter doesn't get more when his painting is resold. An author does not make a dime when his book is passed around.

The industry likes to pretend that it provides "options", but it doesn't. I cannot consume what I purchase where I want, when I want, or in what format I want. Its usually riddled with DRM or flash / proprietary players. If the industry wanted to do a $4.99 per season 420p digital download of a TV series, that would be interesting (for the current season, as it airs, with previous seasons @ $1.99 a season). Oh, I can hear it now, but but but bandwidth costs! Doh, they could use bit torrent to *legally* distribute the episodes.

Seriously, $1.99 for a TV show that I can get *WITH AN ANTENNA* is absurd. Its this type of fundamental disconnect which turns consumers into pirates. Pirates can and will turn into customers given the right incentive. Best #1 incentive? Let me download the show slightly before it airs. With torrents, you have to wait for someone to up it, so immediately they would have a service advantage. Thats *if* they were interested in providing a superior service.

My piracy of video games stopped when I started using steam. I consume more content over Netflix than I do from torrent sites at this point, though with the industry viewing it as a threat and the content costs going from $200m to $2b, who knows how long that will last.

They are dinosaurs and just like the music industry, and its going to take a while to adjust. They need to realize that you cannot bend the internet to meet your demands. Statements that people want things for free tend to miss several key points IMO.

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Marzuk posted:

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Seriously, $1.99 for a TV show that I can get *WITH AN ANTENNA* is absurd. Its this type of fundamental disconnect which turns consumers into pirates. Pirates can and will turn into customers given the right incentive. Best #1 incentive? Let me download the show slightly before it airs. With torrents, you have to wait for someone to up it, so immediately they would have a service advantage. Thats *if* they were interested in providing a superior service.

My piracy of video games stopped when I started using steam. I consume more content over Netflix than I do from torrent sites at this point, though with the industry viewing it as a threat and the content costs going from $200m to $2b, who knows how long that will last.

They are dinosaurs and just like the music industry, and its going to take a while to adjust. They need to realize that you cannot bend the internet to meet your demands. Statements that people want things for free tend to miss several key points IMO.

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Sprawl-zero1eye- posted:

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Marzuk posted:

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Seriously, $1.99 for a TV show that I can get *WITH AN ANTENNA* is absurd. Its this type of fundamental disconnect which turns consumers into pirates. Pirates can and will turn into customers given the right incentive. Best #1 incentive? Let me download the show slightly before it airs. With torrents, you have to wait for someone to up it, so immediately they would have a service advantage. Thats *if* they were interested in providing a superior service.

My piracy of video games stopped when I started using steam. I consume more content over Netflix than I do from torrent sites at this point, though with the industry viewing it as a threat and the content costs going from $200m to $2b, who knows how long that will last.

They are dinosaurs and just like the music industry, and its going to take a while to adjust. They need to realize that you cannot bend the internet to meet your demands. Statements that people want things for free tend to miss several key points IMO.

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Steam and Spotify have "made me a better man". Someone needs to get their head out of their ass if they think Netflix, with it's current content, is the solution to streaming movies though...




Edit: I am not implying you, btw

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Sprawl-zero1eye- posted:

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Steam and Spotify have "made me a better man". Someone needs to get their head out of their ass if they think Netflix, with it's current content, is the solution to streaming movies though...

Edit: I am not implying you, btw

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