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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2087996/NYPD-developing-body-scanner-detect-guns-suspects-street.html
US police developing infrared body scanner to detect guns in the street
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 8:25 AM on 18th January 2012
A device that can detect whether a suspect is carrying a weapon without needing to frisk him is being developed by police.
Infrared rays will be used to scan a form of natural energy - like radiation - emitted from the body of someone concealing a gun on the street.
If something is obstructing the flow of that energy, such as a weapon, the gadget will show exactly where the object is on a suspect's body.
Futuristic: The NYPD is developing a gadget to see if a suspect is carrying a weapon. The device senses radiation - obstructed by a weapon - emitted from the body
Gadget: Police are developing a device to see if a suspect is carrying a weapon. It senses radiation emitted from the body- and if an object is obstructing it
As a result, officers will get a digital outline of where the firearm is. The device could also be used to find suicide bomber vests, Newsday reported.
The New York Post reported that the device has been undergoing development for the past three years for the streets of New York City.
Commissioner Ray Kelly announced the gadget, which began development three years ago, on Tuesday
Plans: Commissioner Ray Kelly announced the gadget, developed with the defense department, on Tuesday
The device will be mounted on the top of NYPD vans and will shoot rays at a suspect or scan the streets for weapons.
Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said it currently only works at a short range – from around three to four feet away from a person.
'This can be done from a short range,' Kelly said. 'We want a distance of at least 25 meters.'
Kelly said the department is working with the U.S. Department of Defense to develop the device.
The gadget would mean the NYPD would no longer have to stop and frisk those suspected of carrying weapons - a practice which rocketed by 13 per cent last year.
Yet there are also concerns that the gadget could be an invasion of privacy as they show an outline of a suspect's body - similar to 'naked' body scanners used in airports.
It comes as the NYPD is set to develop a new range of futuristic technology to avoid fire between its own ranks.
Kelly asked his officers to brainstorm ideas following the death of Omar J. Edwards, 25, when he was shot while off duty last week.
Edwards had left work when he witnessed a burglary, drew his weapon and chased the suspect. Police responding to the call shot him dead.
One idea for the protective gadgets uses radio frequency tags to show officers where other cops are in the city.
Another involves tags that would work gun-to-gun and use an infrared sensor.
When a weapon is pulled from an officer's holster it would trigger a signal - seen or heard - that would be sent to the gun of a nearby officer.
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Big Brother is getting smarter than they ever thought he would. At the same time I kind of approve of this. I think the welfare of an innocent person trumps the privacy of a law breaker. And before anyone speaks out (BT) about personal freedoms you must remember, not only was all this technology not available to our founding father, but they also could not have imagined it. I also suspect they could not for see the attacks on our freedoms from without and within.
I feel that as society advances so to must our methods of how we address the new issues.
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the supreme court has already ruled this type of technology to scan houses without a warrant is unconstitutional.....it's reasonable to assume that the same ruling will apply to this type of scan as well as the xray car scans once it is challenged in court
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the supreme court has already ruled this type of technology to scan houses without a warrant is unconstitutional.....it's reasonable to assume that the same ruling will apply to this type of scan as well as the xray car scans once it is challenged in court
this, the 4th and 14th amendments are quite clear about this
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I can understand the ban on a house, it would be kind of hard to take a house into a crowded area and blow it up.
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I can understand the ban on a house, it would be kind of hard to take a house into a crowded area and blow it up.
guns are meant for shooting not to be blown up
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I can understand the ban on a house, it would be kind of hard to take a house into a crowded area and blow it up.
guns are meant for shooting not to be blown up
The article also mentioned detecting suicide bomber vests. I don't think those are for shooting.
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When scanning for guns, will a dildo that is up your butt show up on the scan?
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The massively out of control government bothers me less than the despicable morons that are forever finding excuses that enable a out of control government.
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Poit-Narf posted:
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I can understand the ban on a house, it would be kind of hard to take a house into a crowded area and blow it up.
guns are meant for shooting not to be blown up
The article also mentioned detecting suicide bomber vests. I don't think those are for shooting.
the discussion here was about guns but I will humor you and change topics. The 4th and 14th amendments are quite clear about arbitrarily scanning for anything on a person
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from the Kyllo vs US decision
"The Fourth Amendment provides that "[t]he right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated."...
Where, as here, the Government uses a device that is not in general public use, to explore details of the home that would previously have been unknowable without physical intrusion, the surveillance is a "search" and is presumptively unreasonable without a warrant.....To withdraw protection of this minimum expectation would be to permit police technology to erode the privacy guaranteed by the Fourth Amendment.
while this particular case was about "houses" Scalia in his opinion recited the 4th amendment....which of course includes "persons" and "effects"(cars) to prevent technology used by the police and govt from invading privacy....
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so let's say I cover myself in plate mail...
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Poit-Narf posted:
Brother_Tempus posted:
Reapist posted:
I can understand the ban on a house, it would be kind of hard to take a house into a crowded area and blow it up.
guns are meant for shooting not to be blown up
The article also mentioned detecting suicide bomber vests. I don't think those are for shooting.
You can just overlook BY. He has a very hard time with common sense.
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I can understand the ban on a house, it would be kind of hard to take a house into a crowded area and blow it up.
this is not about the possibility of catching illegal devices.....these devices scan indiscriminately ....so it may see a gun...or it may see the vibrator in your purse....but the fact remains it WILL see a great many things that are legal to carry....and no matter how you slice it... searching w/o a warrant or probable cause or incident an arrest is illegal....no matter how much you try to rationalize your argle blargle fear mongering about bombs and guns and it's for the children nonsense
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All the more reason for citizens to be able to carry a weapon openly.
It would be a better deterrent to crime that way, as well.
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so let's say I cover myself in plate mail...
You'd find it very difficult to walk, and would tire easily?
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All the more reason for citizens to be able to carry a weapon openly
any weapon
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so let's say I cover myself in plate mail...
You'd find it very difficult to walk, and would tire easily?
good point.
how about this as an alternative?
or I could just go the whole hog and do this:
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so let's say I cover myself in plate mail...
You'd find it very difficult to walk, and would tire easily?
good point.
how about this as an alternative?
or I could just go the whole hog and do this:
Well with the Dalek getup, you wouldn't have to walk - but you might consider, 
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[quote=-Accident-]so let's say I cover myself in plate mail...
You'd find it very difficult to walk, and would tire easily?
good point.
how about this as an alternative?
or I could just go the whole hog and do this:
Well with the Dalek getup, you wouldn't have to walk - but you might consider, [/quote]
this has some potential.  plus the cyberwoman outfit is so much hotter:
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All the more reason for citizens to be able to carry a weapon openly
Backpack nukes for toddlers! There's an amendment for that!
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you are all not paying attention that this is in the UK, where they don't have the same rights that we do in the US.
Which is why they have CCTV in every nook and cranny of their country already. Big Brother is WELL entrenched in their society.
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you are all not paying attention that this is in the UK, where they don't have the same rights that we do in the US.
Which is why they have CCTV in every nook and cranny of their country already. Big Brother is WELL entrenched in their society.
uhhhh the from the bolded portion at the top of the original post
US police developing infrared body scanner to detect guns in the street
not to mention the entire article being about NYPD and the US DoD
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A concealed weapons permit requires a 4 hour class here... if you carry without the permit you are officially retarded.
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I can understand the ban on a house, it would be kind of hard to take a house into a crowded area and blow it up.
this is not about the possibility of catching illegal devices.....these devices scan indiscriminately ....so it may see a gun...or it may see the vibrator in your purse....but the fact remains it WILL see a great many things that are legal to carry....and no matter how you slice it... searching w/o a warrant or probable cause or incident an arrest is illegal....no matter how much you try to rationalize your argle blargle fear mongering about bombs and guns and it's for the children nonsense
See? I like your debate a lot better than BT's. It opens up more intelligent discussion for both sides to make a better decision.
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someone needs a Valium, or a sedative?
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i dont know what's worse, NYPD being behind the curve with this or the article being WAAAY behind the curve.
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They need concealed weapon license in Cali damnit.
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