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http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/130874/dead_teen_sued_by_victim
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his actions that were both intentional and stupid caused harm to another individual.
I'm kinda on the fence on this one. The question is: should people be responsible for their actions?
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wrong but i can see a point
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About time the dead are held accountable.
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Think about the possibilities, suicide gunman can now be sued, murder suicide cowards can now be sued, dead drunk drivers can now be sued.
Everyone gets paid!
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I think she should be entitled to sue for damages against the Kid's estate, but not the parent's.
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lolol what kind of an estate does an 18 year old have?
"Congratulations, you've just won a judgment against the dead 18 year old's estate for your injuries"
"woot! what do I get?"
"Let's see...2 hoodies, 4 pairs of jeans, 3 ratty t-shirts, some dirty underwear, and an ipod in a pear tree."
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lolol what kind of an estate does an 18 year old have?
"Congratulations, you've just won a judgment against the dead 18 year old's estate for your injuries"
"woot! what do I get?"
"Let's see...2 hoodies, 4 pairs of jeans, 3 ratty t-shirts, some dirty underwear, and an ipod in a pear tree."
his parents probably have a life insurance policy out...
sadly people die all the time at a young age, and funerals don't give a discount.
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lolol what kind of an estate does an 18 year old have?
"Congratulations, you've just won a judgment against the dead 18 year old's estate for your injuries"
"woot! what do I get?"
"Let's see...2 hoodies, 4 pairs of jeans, 3 ratty t-shirts, some dirty underwear, and an ipod in a pear tree."
You might be surprised to see what some people have in their estate at such a young age.
Hypothetical: Grandparents left the kid a small trust that he gets when he turns 18.
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You might be surprised to see what some people have in their estate at such a young age.
More hoodies? 
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yeah I am on the fence too
I don't think she's entitled to any "compensation" but I do think that if the family had personal liability insurance, she should be entitled to have her medical expenses covered.
BUT THAT'S ALL.
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Is the parent's suffering worth more than her suffering? I don't think people would be singing the same tune if the deceased was a 50 year old alcoholic with no family or kids and an estate worth 500k.
The kid's actions directly harmed her person causing bodily harm. I hope she wins in court against his estate, which is probably worth something because she's probably suing with a lawyer on contingency. BUT they should rot in hell if they plan to sue the parent's or train company as well.
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What a sad, pathetic fucking country we live in.
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It is pretty gnarly... but it does make sense...
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Sgian_Dubh posted:
What a sad, pathetic fucking country we live in.
Too many lawyers.
Oh, and sorry to make you edit two posts Foxy.
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I do believe that there is no such thing as an "accident" any more. Everything is always brought back to being someone's fault, because money has to be milked out of every orifice...
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It is pretty gnarly... but it does make sense...
It makes sense to hold accountable a dead teenager for making a mistake that led to the dumb luck of a fucking body part causing damage to some someone else?
HOW DOES THIS MAKE SENSE!?
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Sgian_Dubh posted:
What a sad, pathetic fucking country we live in.
No doubt, all those passengers should be suing the estate for the delay in their day! Most of them were probably late to work. Pathetic!
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Sgian_Dubh posted:
Webscar posted:
It is pretty gnarly... but it does make sense...
It makes sense to hold accountable a dead teenager for making a mistake that led to the dumb luck of a fucking body part causing damage to some someone else?
HOW DOES THIS MAKE SENSE!?
It makes sense because his actions directly lead to her injuries.
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Her actions of standing in that specific spot were what caused the injuries, I think someone should sue her for getting in the way of the flying torso.
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Now stop and consider your answer if the woman had a baby there and her baby was killed by flying body parts. Now waht do you say. Let's take it a step farther....someone is drinking coffee and it knocks the McDonald's coffee over spilling onto their lap. Now what?
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-Ronsac- posted:
Sgian_Dubh posted:
Webscar posted:
It is pretty gnarly... but it does make sense...
It makes sense to hold accountable a dead teenager for making a mistake that led to the dumb luck of a fucking body part causing damage to some someone else?
HOW DOES THIS MAKE SENSE!?
It makes sense because his "negligent" actions directly lead to her injuries.
You left out a key word.
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find a source that isn't a hollywood D-list blogger and maybe I'll start caring
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rabbitslayer posted:
find a source that isn't a hollywood D-list blogger and maybe I'll start caring
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-train-fatality-suit-20111229,0,1641941.story
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Lithium_Power posted:
yeah I am on the fence too
I don't think she's entitled to any "compensation" but I do think that if the family had personal liability insurance, she should be entitled to have her medical expenses covered.
BUT THAT'S ALL.
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Maleraka posted:
I think she should be entitled to sue for damages against the Kid's estate, but not the parent's.
If the child has not learned respect for others by that age, I'd say the parents had something to do with that. I'm with the plantiff.
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wow is right
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A drunk driver hits you head on and dies in the process you should be able to sue their estate. I don't see how this is any different. The individual did something stupid and someone was injured as a result. Whether it killed the individual or not the injured party has every right to pursue compensation.
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Let's play this scenario out. Man jumps off building and lands on someone who happened to be walking by. Jumper dies... who pays for the injuries and trauma the victim suffered?
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The kid clearly aimed his dismembered corpse at her. Throw the book at him!
Edit: As a note, I think this probably could have been settled without suing, but that wouldn't be the American way!
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Webscar posted:
Let's play this scenario out. Man jumps off building and lands on someone who happened to be walking by. Jumper dies... who pays for the injuries and trauma the victim suffered?
See my question above.
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-Ronsac- posted:
rabbitslayer posted:
find a source that isn't a hollywood D-list blogger and maybe I'll start caring
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-train-fatality-suit-20111229,0,1641941.story
thanks.
the original version of the story just made me want to kill the dumb twat that wrote it
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Darwin 2.0
I like it.
The most Zionist of Zion conspiracies? You believe in Darwin??
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This is the train service's fault, they should have nets along the rails to catch flying body parts.
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The kid clearly aimed his dismembered corpse at her. Throw the book at him!
Edit: As a note, I think this probably could have been settled without suing, but that wouldn't be the American way!
Just like a drunk driver usually intends to kill when he gets into an accident, right?
Please tell me you see the stupidity in your argument. Regardless of the kid's intent, he was stupid to run across the train tracks, just as a drunk driver is stupid to drink and operate a motor vehicle. Both result in the injuries of others. How is this any different? Because the kid was not drunk? Drunk-body-throwing charge?
Logic - utilize it.
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-Kiande- posted:
Former_Camilla posted:
The kid clearly aimed his dismembered corpse at her. Throw the book at him!
Edit: As a note, I think this probably could have been settled without suing, but that wouldn't be the American way!
Just like a drunk driver usually intends to kill when he gets into an accident, right?
Please tell me you see the stupidity in your argument. Regardless of the kid's intent, he was stupid to run across the train tracks, just as a drunk driver is stupid to drink and operate a motor vehicle. Both result in the injuries of others. How is this any different? Because the kid was not drunk? Drunk-body-throwing charge?
Logic - utilize it.
The main difference I see is that when a drunk driver hurts someone it is during the commission of a crime. Drunk driving is illegal. Running across a railroad track isn't.
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I don't see the problem.
Yeah sucks for the kid, but imagine if the lady doesn't have health insurance right now? That would effectively bankrupt her.
Train kid did something stupid and it caused bodily harm to someone else. Derp?
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The kid clearly aimed his dismembered corpse at her. Throw the book at him!
Edit: As a note, I think this probably could have been settled without suing, but that wouldn't be the American way!
What kind of derp logic is this?
If I do something perfectly legal and break your legs in the process, you aren't going to sue me? Yeah right.
lol
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the kid did something to cause an action that hurt a woman, she will win
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I'm sorry, but who goes around suing a dead teen whose body was ripped to shreds in one of the most gruesome ways imaginable?
Someone who had their leg and wrist broken by the mistake of another sued one estate, without going around. Subjective emotion doesn't dictate the practical application of the law, and since we have no idea about the motivations of the person launching the lawsuit, this writer only really accomplishes portraying herself as a dolt.
Lindsay Mannering, if you google your name for self assurance, I Britonguy called you a dolt.
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I'm sorry, but who goes around suing a dead teen whose body was ripped to shreds in one of the most gruesome ways imaginable?
Someone who had their leg and wrist broken by the mistake of another sued one estate, without going around. Subjective emotion doesn't dictate the practical application of the law, and since we have no idea about the motivations of the person launching the lawsuit, this writer only really accomplishes portraying herself as a dolt.
Lindsay Mannering, if you google your name for self assurance, I Britonguy called you a dolt.
Fran Drescher kinda looked hot in MOM JEANS on The Nanny.
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Stupidity is hard to get rid of, but at least I can admit I have a problem -Mithan-
Gobble Gobble Mother******! -Thankskilling
and off course divers license don't count either this sucks balls.-FD
Bring it on like Donkey Kong
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