Hyperimiator posted:

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Minimum occupation force will need to be at least half a million men for the whole country, but less than 100k can hold the straits.

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Hyperimiator posted:

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http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news/2012/01/10/raytheon-gets-213m-missile-contract.html

http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/11/10118963-royal-navys-most-powerful-destroyer-heads-to-sea

http://rt.com/usa/news/us-troops-israel-iran-257/

http://blogs.ottawacitizen.com/2012/01/11/company-using-threat-of-iran-war-to-market-the-ghost-weapon-system/

http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?id=n268478

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/iran-sentences-exmarine-to-death-in-cia-case/219333-2.html

http://www.sacbee.com/2012/01/11/4181290/hanson-defense-spending-is-a-shovel.html

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Hyperimiator posted:

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This is all over the web right now if you know where to look.

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suntzukali2 posted:

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Iran isnt some power house country no more then Iraq was. We would need no more man power to take over Iran then we needed to take over Iraq.

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_Elwood_ posted:

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suntzukali2 posted:

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Iran isnt some power house country no more then Iraq was. We would need no more man power to take over Iran then we needed to take over Iraq.

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puff puff pass

you must be smoking some good S*

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Hyperimiator posted:

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The first Gulf war was with a large multi-nation force on the ground, and the second war is when we invaded Iraq.

This is not the same situation and just like the Argentinians taking out a UK ship in the Falkland war, the Iranians have missiles designed to skim right over the ocean and avoid radar as they reach our ships.

Those are what we have take out before we get in range of the, or we could have a similar catastrophe.

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Hyperimiator posted:

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The Case for Military Action Against Iran

Posted by Bruce Thornton Bio ? on Jan 10th, 2012

Iran’s 30-year war against the United States may be reaching its decisive moment. Signs of the worsening crisis abound. Iran just announced it has begun enriching uranium at the Fordo underground nuclear site, a key step to producing more quickly fissile material for a nuclear warhead. As Europe moves closer to embargoing Iranian oil, deputy commander of the Revolutionary Guard Ali Ashraf Nouri threatens, “ If enemies block the export of our oil, we won’t allow a drop of oil to pass through the Strait of Hormuz,” through which about one-fifth of the world’s oil passes. In support of this threat, the regime continues to stage war games in the area and to warn American warships from passing through the strait into the Persian Gulf. Meanwhile the U.S. and Israel have announced a joint missile defense exercise, as Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad visits America’s enemies in Latin America, bearding the U.S. lion in its own hemisphere of influence.

Iran may be just indulging bluster and bluff. Perhaps the mullahs recall the severe punishment inflicted on its navy in 1988 during the Tanker War, an earlier attempt to disrupt oil shipments transiting the Persian Gulf. That effort ended when Ronald Reagan retaliated for a missile attack on an American warship by eventually destroying two Iranian oil platforms, two Iranian ships, and six Iranian gunboats. Yet our current president has not shown as yet any of Ronald Reagan’s guts and nerve, and the mullahs may be calculating that the bluff will work.

And why wouldn’t they? Iran has been killing Americans for 30 years with impunity, from the 241 military personnel killed in Beirut by a suicide bomber, to the hundreds more soldiers murdered in Iraq and Afghanistan by Iranian proxy terrorist outfits trained and armed by Tehran. Repeated rounds of sanctions, threats, U.N. Security Council resolutions, and deadlines for cooperating with the International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors have been contemptuously ignored. Our citizens are arrested and held on trumped-up charges, our ally Israel is threatened with genocide, and incessant anti-American “Great Satan” rhetoric daily pours from Tehran. Just this week a former American Marine was condemned to death by an Iranian court for allegedly being a spy and a “mohareb,” or “fighter against God.” Yet Obama has answered this aggression against our security and interests with appeasing diplomatic “outreach” offered “without preconditions,” and pleas for “mutual respect” that the regime correctly interprets as a sign of weakness and failure of nerve.

more... http://frontpagemag.com/2012/01/10/the-case-for-military-action-against-iran/

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-Kiande- posted:

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Weird - half of you believe Iran is some superpower with well equipped (ROFLMFAO) soliders that will destroy us. The other half believe that Iran is a profanity country with absolutely no chance of surviving.

So who is trolling? Could it be...everybody?

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Hyperimiator posted:

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The Case for Military Action Against Iran

Posted by Bruce Thornton Bio ? on Jan 10th, 2012

Iran’s 30-year war against the United States may be reaching its decisive moment. Signs of the worsening crisis abound. Iran just announced it has begun enriching uranium at the Fordo underground nuclear site, a key step to producing more quickly fissile material for a nuclear warhead. As Europe moves closer to embargoing Iranian oil, deputy commander of the Revolutionary Guard Ali Ashraf Nouri threatens, “ If enemies block the export of our oil, we won’t allow a drop of oil to pass through the Strait of Hormuz,” through which about one-fifth of the world’s oil passes. In support of this threat, the regime continues to stage war games in the area and to warn American warships from passing through the strait into the Persian Gulf. Meanwhile the U.S. and Israel have announced a joint missile defense exercise, as Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad visits America’s enemies in Latin America, bearding the U.S. lion in its own hemisphere of influence.

Iran may be just indulging bluster and bluff. Perhaps the mullahs recall the severe punishment inflicted on its navy in 1988 during the Tanker War, an earlier attempt to disrupt oil shipments transiting the Persian Gulf. That effort ended when Ronald Reagan retaliated for a missile attack on an American warship by eventually destroying two Iranian oil platforms, two Iranian ships, and six Iranian gunboats. Yet our current president has not shown as yet any of Ronald Reagan’s guts and nerve, and the mullahs may be calculating that the bluff will work.

And why wouldn’t they? Iran has been killing Americans for 30 years with impunity, from the 241 military personnel killed in Beirut by a suicide bomber, to the hundreds more soldiers murdered in Iraq and Afghanistan by Iranian proxy terrorist outfits trained and armed by Tehran. Repeated rounds of sanctions, threats, U.N. Security Council resolutions, and deadlines for cooperating with the International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors have been contemptuously ignored. Our citizens are arrested and held on trumped-up charges, our ally Israel is threatened with genocide, and incessant anti-American “Great Satan” rhetoric daily pours from Tehran. Just this week a former American Marine was condemned to death by an Iranian court for allegedly being a spy and a “mohareb,” or “fighter against God.” Yet Obama has answered this aggression against our security and interests with appeasing diplomatic “outreach” offered “without preconditions,” and pleas for “mutual respect” that the regime correctly interprets as a sign of weakness and failure of nerve.

more... http://frontpagemag.com/2012/01/10/the-case-for-military-action-against-iran/

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Just curious, but did you ever ask yourself once why Iran hates America?

If you have the intellectual curiosity to do some reading, you will find out that the US f***ed them over pretty bad in order to secure a "stable oil supply".




Either way, whatever. I don't even know why I bother trying to educate people who prefer to remain ignorant.

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