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Hey - don't yell at me! I just report the news, you interpret it...



Smoking marijuana has just got to be bad for the lungs, since it's been made abundantly clear that cigarettes wreak havoc. Or so it would seem.

But the record on marijuana and lung health has been confusing at best. The latest study is typical: It shows that pot smokers' lung function actually improves, at least if they're not smoking a lot.

Smoking a joint a week for up to seven years doesn't hurt lung function, according to researchers at the University of California, San Francisco. They came up with that number after following more than 5,000 people for 20 years. The results were just published in JAMA, the Journal of the American Medical Association.



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laugh You must be high

 

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Knowing how bad cigarettes are on your lungs you aren't selling smoking a joint very well.

 

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It's pretty much a moot point. Everyone I've known who smokes weed smokes cigarettes, too.

 

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Stoopid. For one thing toxins are created when something burns, some of which did not exist until the chemical reactions caused by incineration.

Take a look at the residue inside your pipe or Bong.

Now.... do the math.

Vaporizers are better of course but toally safe?

Take a look at the residue in your vape tube.

Now....do the math.

 

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People have done the math and have published their findings.

/Deal with it.

 

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The take away is Reese is high and a RP supporter. laugh

 

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reesescups posted:
People have done the math and have published their findings.

/Deal with it.


The reality is the black tar that you have to clean out of your pipe.

/Live with it. skull

 

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vn_nnanji posted:
reesescups posted:
People have done the math and have published their findings.

/Deal with it.


The reality is the black tar that you have to clean out of your pipe.

/Live with it. skull
And have you ever smoked a cig out of your pipe???


Read the freaking title again jack ass... May Be Easier On Your Lungs Than A Cig. Let me know which words you need me to highlight.

 

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The take away is Reese is high


Damn - I wish!!!

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lol affected much?

A joint a week?

You take a bong, suck it down, hold it in...often until you erupt into a fit of coughing.

Sure...that is helping your lungs mucho. raised_brow

 

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It's good for the soul!

 

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I'm pretty sure anyone who smokes enough pot to do harm probably doesn't care. laugh

 

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Not buying it at all.

 

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It's easier to believe that an angry old man had to kill his son to forgive people for eating the forbidden fruit than it is that marijuana isn't as bad for you as tobacco?

Interesting.

 

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A joint a week? laugh

And from the same article:

But the pot smokers didn't get a completely clean bill of health. Heavy marijuana users, which the study defined as smoking more than 20 times a month, did see a decline in lung capacity. But that's after exposure to more than 10 "joint-years," which the scientists calculated as a joint a day for a decade. That's a fair amount of weed.

 

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vn_nnanji posted:
lol affected much?

A joint a week?

You take a bong, suck it down, hold it in...often until you erupt into a fit of coughing.

Sure...that is helping your lungs mucho. raised_brow
Who still coughs when doing bong rips? What are you, 12?

 

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Hmmm, you must be smoking some dirt weed reese... your obviously not from cali.

 

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Eat a pot brownie, save a lung.


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Eat a pot brownie, save a lung.


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Hmmm, you must be smoking some dirt weed reese... your obviously not from cali.
Obviously you missed all my 'Cali rocks' posts...

Not from Cali but lived there for the better part of ~15 years or so...

 

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Aerlinthian posted:
Eat a pot brownie, save a lung.


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hahah This


laugh

 

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reesescups posted:
vn_nnanji posted:
lol affected much?

A joint a week?

You take a bong, suck it down, hold it in...often until you erupt into a fit of coughing.

Sure...that is helping your lungs mucho. raised_brow
Who still coughs when doing bong rips? What are you, 12?


I don't do them at all. If I did I hope I would cough.

You apparently think dead lungs are a sign of maturity. silly skull

 

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STFU HIPPIES!

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New research from Canada shows that some toxins may be more abundant in marijuana cigarettes than tobacco cigarettes.

Ammonia levels were up to 20 times higher in marijuana smoke than in tobacco smoke. Levels of hydrogen cyanide and nitrogen-related chemicals were three to five times higher in marijuana smoke than in tobacco smoke.

In this new study, researchers compared marijuana smoke to tobacco smoke, using smoking machines to simulate the smoking habits of users. The scientists found that ammonia levels were 20 times higher in the marijuana smoke than in the tobacco smoke, while hydrogen cyanide, nitric oxide and certain aromatic amines occurred at levels 3-5 times higher in the marijuana smoke, they say. The finding is "important information for public health and communication of the risk related to exposure to such materials," say the researchers.


plain Real healthy...

 

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New research from Canada shows that some toxins may be more abundant in marijuana cigarettes than tobacco cigarettes.

Ammonia levels were up to 20 times higher in marijuana smoke than in tobacco smoke. Levels of hydrogen cyanide and nitrogen-related chemicals were three to five times higher in marijuana smoke than in tobacco smoke.

In this new study, researchers compared marijuana smoke to tobacco smoke, using smoking machines to simulate the smoking habits of users. The scientists found that ammonia levels were 20 times higher in the marijuana smoke than in the tobacco smoke, while hydrogen cyanide, nitric oxide and certain aromatic amines occurred at levels 3-5 times higher in the marijuana smoke, they say. The finding is "important information for public health and communication of the risk related to exposure to such materials," say the researchers.


plain Real healthy...
Good Grief - how do you canucks grow your weed??? Christ...

 

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I don't understand why the "legalize it" crowd is still arguing about smoking the stuff, talk about a dead end no-win approach to the argument. As was mentioned above - pot brownies and of course other foods are the way to go.

 

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reesescups posted:
Aerlinthian posted:
Eat a pot brownie, save a lung.


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hahah This



I used to laugh at the idea of pot brownies.

Then I tried one.


Holy hell.

 

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You should have to sign a waver agreeing that you wont receive any medical help outside of what you can pay for yourself if you take up smoking. Im getting sick and tired of getting calls to peoples homes where the pt has COPD and emphysema and on O2 yet the house is full of cig smoke. plain

 

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You should probably find a new line of work then. Two things that aren't going to change. People being morons and morons smoking when they know its bad for them.

 

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Yep i hear ya. Just love my line of work to much though. I rather enjoy helping people and my community though.

 

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Cawlin posted:
I don't understand why the "legalize it" crowd is still arguing about smoking the stuff, talk about a dead end no-win approach to the argument. As was mentioned above - pot brownies and of course other foods are the way to go.


Which of course is irrelevant.

Unless of course you think it should be legal to eat but illegal to smoke. Which is probably the worst idea I've ever heard. Talk about splitting the baby in half.

 

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Good Grief - how do you canucks grow your weed??? Christ...




 

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I don't smoke cigarettes pretty much ever. I think they're a nasty habit with zero benefit at all.

I wonder what the effect is on a bong? And who actually wastes weed smoking a joint these days?

 

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Smoking one cigarette a week wont hurt you either. If you smoke 60 joints a day then you have a valid comparison. Or 60 joints for you and ypur roommate smokes another 60 a day.. Then youre comparing yourself to the typical smoker (plus 2nd hand).

People in asia and the mideast smoke them one after another, they probably get up to 100+ cigarettes a day.

 

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Your typical smokers smokes more like 20 - 30 cigarettes a day - that's a pack\ a pack and a half a day.

60 smokes is 3 packs a day. I can count the number of people I've met in my life that smoke that heavily on one hand.

 

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Well maybe they smoke less now.. Back in the 90s when i was a smoker, id smoke 2 packs a day. It was a dollar or so a pack back then, it would be harder to afford these days. I guess a 20 pack carton is a about $100? (thats nuts)

And last time i travelled, i saw people smoking them non stop.. In asia/mideast, they cost 25 cents a pack.

 

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I can't speak to Asia.

There are 10 packs of cigarettes in a carton. 20 in each pack. A carton costs me roughly $40 and I live in probably the cheapest state of all to get them. You'd have to poll the OP as to what it's like now. When I left Taxachussets a decade ago, they were $50 a carton. They are like $7 a pack in Maryland.

I can buy that times have changed. Another thing to consider beyond the cost is the time involved now as well. Smoking a cigarette is a PITA - trying to find time to do that 60 times in a day and lead any kind of 'normal' life would be extremely difficult. Not many employers will let you get away with taking a smoke break every 15 minutes - which is the pace you would need to maintain to smoke 3 packs in a day.

 

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Its been so long, i havent touched a cigarette in over 15 years..

Anyway, one joint vs 1 cigarate, probably a negligible difference.

 

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I've talked to someone who lives in Canada who pays around $9/pack (not sure if that was in canadian or USD). No idea how much they cost where I live

 

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Tych2 posted:
Knowing how bad cigarettes are on your lungs you aren't selling smoking a joint very well.




maybe this study means that some of the "facts" about cigarette smoke are falsified or exaggerated? shock hypnotized

 

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laugh yeah cigs are the new health sticks!

 

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I would imagine that if people took a straw and did deep breathing exercises simulating pot smoking(take a deep breath and hold for a few seconds 20-30 times) they would get the same lung improvement if not better.

Smoking pot has negative health effects it destroys the cilia in your lung and causes Chronic bronchitis in a large percentage of its regular users and I'm sure there are other negative effects but they are not cigarettes and all smoke is not equal,comparing the two is nothing more than propaganda I wish would stop.

 

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I've talked to someone who lives in Canada who pays around $9/pack (not sure if that was in canadian or USD). No idea how much they cost where I live


Around 5 bucks.

 

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There are healthy ways to consume cannabis.

There are no healthy ways to consume tobacco.

There two plants are totally different. Smoking anything is going to be bad for you.

 

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Aerlinthian posted:
Eat a pot brownie, save a lung.


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We were at a Christmas party years ago. My mom was with us. The hostess took me off to the side to let me know she had some special brownies on a side table.

I looked up to see my mom munching away on those brownies. She was so funny, I never had the heart to tell her that she ate pot laced brownies.

 

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Subject: A Joint May Be Easier On Lungs Than A Cigarette
My Dad did that once...got into my uncles stash of pot brownies.

He was convinced he was dying...and they finally called 911. The Doc came out and informed him that he had THC and they eventually figured it out.

Needless to say Dad went on a "Now I've tried it...why the hell would anyone want to feel that way?" tirade.

 

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A single joint a week is probably well within the limit of crap the body can take care of.

 

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