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Would you please take a look at the line up below of items and let me know if I can do better/cheaper? I haven't built a computer since 2002, and things have changed. I hope everything matches & I caught it all. (another pair of eyes would be most appreciative!)
I can't tell if this is overkill or not..would be nice to slim some $$$ off (like $3-400 if possible), though there do seem to be some pretty good deals on at Newegg. I was looking at several pre-built machines, but I became irritable at what I would get vs. build one myself.
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Case: Rosewill BLACKHAWK ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147107 ) Cost: $99.99
Processor: Intel Core i7-2600k ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070 ) Cost: $299.99
Motherboard: AsRock P67 Extreme4 Gen3 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157265 ) Cost: $149.99
GPU: EVGA GTX 570 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130593 ) Cost: $339.99
PSU: Antec 900w ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371050 ) Cost: $129.99
RAM: GSkill 16gb ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231315 ) Cost: $84.99
Hard drive: Seagate 1TB ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697 ) Cost: $124.99
Optical drive 1: Asus dvd burner ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 ) Cost: $19.99
Optical drive 2: Lite-On Blu-Ray Burner ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106348 ) Cost: $99.99
Monitor: Asus 24" ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236153 ) Cost: $209.99
OS: Win 7 Home Premium ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116716 ) Cost: $189.99
Extras:
HDMI to mini-HDMI: ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812816074 ) Cost: $9.99
Cyberpower 8 Outlet: ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812120401 ) Cost: $20.99
18" SATA 16gbps cables (x2): ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812123111 ) Cost: $4.18 total for both
2 year warranty on Asus 24" monitor: $39.99
2 year warranty on motherboard: $24.99
2 year warranty on CPU: $44.99
Total cost of above items after Promo Codes (-$30.00) and shipping ($24.15): $1,889.17
My budget for all of this is supposed to be around $1400-$1500.
Any and all help is appreciated! Several of these Newegg deals end with the New Year!
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Before you say, "get away from me with that!" Check these specs
System includes:
Intel® Coreâ„¢ i7-2600 processor(8MB Cache, 3.4GHz)
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64Bit, English (Not a separate purchase, well kinda not)
No Monitor
12GB3 Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz (add more if you wish buy from newegg not Dell)
500GB4 SATA hard drive (7200RPM) (upgrade to 1TB Raid 0 for $100)
Nvidia® Geforce® GT530 (Upgrades from Dell are ATI 6670,6770, 6870)
Blu-ray Combo Drive (8X BD-R, DVD+/-RW) with DVD+R double layer write capability
Consumer Multimedia Keyboard
1501 Wireless-N PCIe Card
McAfee SecurityCenter, 15-Months
1 Year Basic Support
22.4 lbs
$999.99
This system is totally upgradeable for when you want to tweak an aging component or totally renew the system.
Yes, this is an XPS 8300 system
My XPS system 3 years ago came with a Foxxcon mainboard, 750watt PS, and a nicely dressed out brushed aluminum case with all the wiring packed and tied neatly tucked away. I really dont know why Dell has gotten such a bad rap but they provide a top notch unit for an affordable price. They stand behind their units and if you want better service then get their premium upgrade that will cost about $300, otherwise you would get service at the basic level that would be equivalent if not a bit better than manufacturers warranty on self built items.
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Before you say, "get away from me with that!" Check these specs
System includes:
Intel® Coreâ„¢ i7-2600 processor(8MB Cache, 3.4GHz)
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64Bit, English (Not a separate purchase, well kinda not)
No Monitor
12GB3 Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz (add more if you wish buy from newegg not Dell)
500GB4 SATA hard drive (7200RPM) (upgrade to 1TB Raid 0 for $100)
Nvidia® Geforce® GT530 (Upgrades from Dell are ATI 6670,6770, 6870)
Blu-ray Combo Drive (8X BD-R, DVD+/-RW) with DVD+R double layer write capability
Consumer Multimedia Keyboard
1501 Wireless-N PCIe Card
McAfee SecurityCenter, 15-Months
1 Year Basic Support
22.4 lbs
$999.99
This system is totally upgradeable for when you want to tweak an aging component or totally renew the system.
Yes, this is an XPS 8300 system
My XPS system 3 years ago came with a Foxxcon mainboard, 750watt PS, and a nicely dressed out brushed aluminum case with all the wiring packed and tied neatly tucked away. I really dont know why Dell has gotten such a bad rap but they provide a top notch unit for an affordable price. Sure, if you buy an off the shelf piece of crap Inspiron for $500 you get what you pay for. They stand behind their units and if you want better service then get their premium upgrade that will cost about $300, otherwise you would get service at the basic level that would be equivalent if not a bit better than manufacturers warranty on self built items.
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If you're just going to be gaming and the usual internet, email, web type stuff here are some suggestions:
( dollar amounts are rounded off)
1) get win7 oem instead of the retail version. saves about $90.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986
2) get the core I5 2500K instead of the 2600K - saves about $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
3) drop ram down to an 8Gb kit instead of 16 Gb.- saves about $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314
4) drop the video card down to a 560 ti w/ 448 cores ( not the standard 560 ti)
saves about $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130738
reviews:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5153/nvidias-geforce-gtx-560-ti-w448-cores-gtx570-on-a-budget
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-560-ti-448-core-benchmark,3082.html
difference between this card and the gtx 570 are generally a few frames per second.
warning: this is a limited edition gpu.
5) you can stop here or my suggestion would be to take some of the saved cash and get an ssd to use as a boot drive.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441
cost $107.
with 64Gb you'll have plenty of room for windows and some other apps and you can use the seagate for games, pics, etc.
also get an aftermarket cooler.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065
cost about $30.
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Thank you for those suggestions.
I found something that I wasn't sure how this worked or if it was a right "fit".
The proposed motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157265) has Top mounted IO ports - 2 x USB 3.0(internal 20-pin connector to MB), 4 x USB 2.0, Audio out, MIC in.
The proposed case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147107) has the following non-rear ports:
1 x Floppy connector
1 x IR header
1 x COM port header
1 x HDMI_SPDIF header
1 x Power LED header
CPU/Chassis/Power FAN connector
24 pin ATX power connector
8 pin 12V power connector
Also, I have never bought an OEM version of windows. Is it that big of a deal to install, or any different than retail aside from not being able to move from one computer to the next (new mobo's).
SLI/XFire power connector
Front panel audio connector
1 x Dr. Debug with LED
Am I missing something, or will I not be able to take advantage of the top mounted ports with this case/mobo combination?
ALSO, you mentioned above "warning: this is a limited edition GPU". Is there an issue with driver support with something that is limited edition? Why did you put in that warning?
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According to the Asrock website, the motherboard has 1 front usb 3.0 header and 3 usb 2 headers so you should be able to connect the top mounted ports on the case to the motherboard no problem.
As far as the oem windows, it installs/works the same as retail version. Only difference is once you register and activate it you can't transfer it to another computer. You can still swap out video cards, memory, hard drives you just cant swap motherboards. I think it gives you like 3 days before it forces you to activate so at least you'll have a couple of days to play with it to make sure its ok.
ALSO, you mentioned above "warning: this is a limited edition GPU". Is there an issue with driver support with something that is limited edition? Why did you put in that warning?
Shouldn't be any driver support issues with it. I only put that in there because to my understanding its only going to be available for a limited time and it looks to be a good deal in my opinion. I don't know when the cut off dates are or how long the suppliers are going to have them in stock.
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Thank you for your quick response! I am planning on making the purchase today, so I have LOTS of questions!
Are the additional warranties through Newegg worth it? I have 3 listed: Monitor, Motherboard & CPU.
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"Are the additional warranties through Newegg worth it? I have 3 listed: Monitor, Motherboard & CPU. "
I think those are just personal preference. I have never purchased any kind of additional warranty on anything I bought from newegg and I have never really had any major problems so I honestly cant say one way or the other if that's a good buy or not.
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OK, the latest iteration of the build is below...do you see anything that is overkill, can be swapped with something equally good at a cheaper price, etc? (Edited CPU Link)
Case: Rosewill BLACKHAWK ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147107 ) Cost: $99.99
Processor: Intel Core i5-2600k ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072 ) Cost: $219.99
Motherboard: AsRock P67 Extreme4 Gen3 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157265 ) Cost: $149.99
GPU: EVGA GTX 560 ti <448 Cores> ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130738 ) Cost: $289.99
PSU: Corsair 750w Modular ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010 ) Cost: $149.99
RAM: GSkill Ripjaws X 8gb ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231455 ) Cost: $59.99 **Is this RAM worth it for my mobo?
Hard drive: Seagate 1TB ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697 ) Cost: $124.99 **Is RAID really worth it anymore?
Optical drive 1: Asus dvd burner ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 ) Cost: $19.99
Optical drive 2: Lite-On Blu-Ray Burner ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106348 ) Cost: $99.99
Monitor: Asus 24" ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236153 ) Cost: $209.99
OS: Win 7 64 Home Premium OEM ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986 ) Cost: $99.99
Extras:
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus: ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 ) Cost: $29.04
HDMI to mini-HDMI: ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812816074 ) Cost: $9.99
Cyberpower 8 Outlet: ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812120401 ) Cost: $20.99
18" SATA 16gbps cables (x2): ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812123111 ) Cost: $4.18 total for both
Keyboard <mine is old as sin>: ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201038 ) Cost: $14.99
I REMOVED THE 2 YR WARRANTY FOR THE MONITOR, CPU AND MOTHERBOARD....IF YOU THINK THIS IS A MISTAKE, PLEASE SAY SO!
Total Cost including Promo Codes & Shipping: $1,558.28
I really appreciate any and all responses!!
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Overall looks like a solid build in my opinion although I would still suggest a ssd. You would definitely notice the difference.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072 - I think that's the CPU you meant to quote.
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Just some quick thoughts...
Case...
Rosewill's name is synonymous with lower quality. I'd look at a Antec Ninehundred 2 or Cooler Master 690 in the $100 range.
Processor...
I think the i7-2600K is overkill, the big feature that drives the cost up so much is Hyperthreading and it doesn't seem to add much for most gaming situation or typical desktop uses. I'd go with an i5-2500K for a better value.
Motherboard...
First I'd go Z68 over P67. Z68 has everything the P67 has place QuickSync and SmartReponse. May not need either feature, but since it's the successor of the P67 and usually costs the same, there usually is no reason to go with the older chipset.
ASRock is another name synonymous with lower quality. It's owned by ASUS for just that reason. If possible, I'd look closer at a motherboard from ASUS, Gigabyte, or MSI first though.
Powersupply...
If you are not using SLI/Crossfire, you don't need a power supply more than 600 watts. So that is an area you can cut costs some more if needed. Corsair and Antec are two brands I like for their value and trustworthiness.
Harddrives...
I would not use RAID0 for any reason if you are not able to back it up. So if you RAID0 two 1TB drives, I'd buy an additional 2TB drive to back those two RAID drives up with. Unless you are okay losing everything on them. If a regular 7200 RPM drive isn't fast enough, I'd look at adding a smaller SSD drive to run your OS and games and hard drive for storage.
I'm not much of a Seagate fan. Their 7200.12 series drives sometimes suffer from an annoying clicking noise. The drives seem to be fine, but the clicking gets very annoying. I have two 2TB 7200.12 drives and both started doing the clicking after a few months. I've been meaning to try to RMA the drives, but Seagate's RMA process is the suck big time.
Western Digital I've never had any noise complaints about so far. And their RMA process is so epically easy.
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Also, I have never bought an OEM version of windows. Is it that big of a deal to install, or any different than retail aside from not being able to move from one computer to the next (new mobo's).
It installs the same (and easier than Upgrade versions). Though sometimes something as trivial as updating your chipset drivers causes you to have to reactivate again (which is usually easy though).
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ALSO, you mentioned above "warning: this is a limited edition GPU". Is there an issue with driver support with something that is limited edition? Why did you put in that warning?
The GTX 560 TI 448 is basically a slightly gimped version of the GTX 570. There will not be any driver support issues. And I'm not really sure why it's limited edition other than maybe Nvidia is trying to clear out an excess inventory of GTX 570 boards by selling them as discounted 560 TI 448's instead.
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greystar21 posted:
ALSO, you mentioned above "warning: this is a limited edition GPU". Is there an issue with driver support with something that is limited edition? Why did you put in that warning?
The GTX 560 TI 448 is basically a slightly gimped version of the GTX 570. There will not be any driver support issues. And I'm not really sure why it's limited edition other than maybe Nvidia is trying to clear out an excess inventory of GTX 570 boards by selling them as discounted 560 TI 448's instead.
It is probably just the manufacturing process for 570 yielded some that did not cut it but were fully functional still. Like what AMD did with 3 core CPUs and dozens of other examples out there.
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How are OCZ Power Supplies?
( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341018&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076& ;PID=3946032&SID=skim21873X832179X5f98dcbc2c9de8dc113e1a7a062fa2d3 )
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-oem-manufacturer,2913-8.html
The OEM column is who makes the rebranded PSUs. I would stay away from anything in solid gray as it is a straight rebrand. At least others are trying harder.
Check out reviews of 600w+ PSUs and see what you can get a deal on. Any of the top models will work about same.
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I'd personally go with Corsair or SeaSonic for a power supply. Best power supplies on the market (in my opinion) backed by a superb warranty.
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OCZ makes an excellent power supply, but you really can't go wrong with Corsair or Antec either.
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Any last thought before the purchase on Saturday!
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OCZ quality is hit and miss. Like most power supplies you buy, the name on the box is usually not the company that made it. Most rebrand their power supplies. Antec, Corsair, and OCZ don't make the units. Antec and Corsair rebrand only good power supplies. You could buy a PSU with their name on it with confidence. OCZ rebrands good and poor power supplies. Unless I spend the time to research who made a particular model of OCZ PSU, I don't really have confidence recommending them.
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OCZ quality is hit and miss. Like most power supplies you buy, the name on the box is usually not the company that made it. Most rebrand their power supplies. Antec, Corsair, and OCZ don't make the units. Antec and Corsair rebrand only good power supplies. You could buy a PSU with their name on it with confidence. OCZ rebrands good and poor power supplies. Unless I spend the time to research who made a particular model of OCZ PSU, I don't really have confidence recommending them.
I'm sticking with a Corsair PSU. I must say, I have gotten a lot of advice that I hope ends well with my ultimate choice. I normally do not buy things like this for myself, but rather make sure the wife & kids are taken care of. Spending $1,500 on myself is something that I never, ever, do...and I must say that I have buyers remorse without actually purchasing the damn thing yet!!!
Anyway, if you have the opportunity to take a look at the final build and see that something doesn't work together, or could have been done differently, please let me know.
Ravynmagi (and everyone else!), I sincerely appreciate your help and recommendations.
I have ALMOST decided to stick with the initial choice of the ASROCK p67 Extreme Gen 3 Motherboard, because I like the idea of being ready for the new processor coming out, along with the new gfx cards. I searched Newegg, but could not find a reliable Z68 motherboard to take over the proposed P67 Asrock motherboard (along with USB 3 front onboard (NOT backside) features that go with it).
Also, watching the demonstration video of the Rosewill Blackhawk case, I really like that it is made to hide the cables for optimum airflow. Choosing a Corsair Modular PSU, it seems like the logical choice. I simply could not find a suitable substitute on Newegg or TigerDirect to replace the proposed choice.
Also, I could not find a suitable Western Digital HD with positive reviews to move from the Seagate HD...this worries me, as Ravyn as mentioned, over time the clicking noise can become an issue.
If you have an opportunity to once again review my order (recent post above), I would SINCERELY appreciate it.
My stomach is in knots over this!!!
THANK YOU!
P.S.
Do I need the extra SATA cables on the order? I currently have extra cables on order (It's like $5 for 2 cables). I understand the Motherboard SHOULD have enough to handle my build, but what if the cables are too short or not enough? Again, any insight is appreciated!!
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Not to knock your case, but If I were you, I would really spend more time choosing a case, since you might have to live with it for several years, probably using it again on your next upgrade.
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Case: Rosewill BLACKHAWK ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147107 ) Cost: $99.99
Nothing out there for $50 that you would have enjoyed? I bought a $40 coolermaster to put my old system in and I actually like it more than my $200 main Antec case.
Processor: Intel Core i5-2500k ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072 ) Cost: $219.99
Good. Anything more is foolish.
Motherboard: AsRock P67 Extreme4 Gen3 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157265 ) Cost: $149.99
I don't know anything about this brand, but I would have gone with a Z68 but it is not a big deal. I prefer the Asus P8P67 Pro as well but again, not a big deal.
GPU: EVGA GTX 560 ti ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130738 ) Cost: $289.99
Fine.
PSU: Corsair 750w Modular ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010 ) Cost: $149.99
650W would have been more than enough.
RAM: GSkill Ripjaws X 8gb ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231455 ) Cost: $59.99 **Is this RAM worth it for my mobo?
Change to 1600mhz Ripjaw
Hard drive: Seagate 1TB ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697 ) Cost: $124.99 **Is RAID really worth it anymore?
This is fine and yes, drives are expensive now.
Optical drive 1: Asus dvd burner ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 ) Cost: $19.99
Fine
Optical drive 2: Lite-On Blu-Ray Burner ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106348 ) Cost: $99.99
Fine, but why? Are you watching blu-ray on here? If not, don't waste the money and put this $100 into the Dell monitor I mention below or save it.
Monitor: Asus 24" ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236153 ) Cost: $209.99
For $100 more, you could get the Dell U2412M which is FAR superior to this and 1920x1200 resolution. This is ok though.
Looks fine overall though. A few cuts here and there (case, memory, etc) would give you enough to put in a 60-80MB SSD for your boot drive.
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This case is 10/20 dollars cheaper.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216
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I did- I liked the cable management this case provided as well as the temperature management via fans etc. I also liked the connectors on the top of the case. For $100, I can deal if I need to change something in a few yrs.
The order has been placed! Thank you all for your comments!
Edit: apparently, there was a delay between postings and replies. Very odd...I checked and didn't see any posts, then I reply and Mithan's and the other reply showed up. That was like a 10 min delay!
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Mithan,
You posted right after I made my purchase! I did change the RAM to exactly what you had posted, strange enough. This system will be in the Master bedroom, and I will be able to watch bluray movies on it (why the drive is listed). I probably could have waited ont he bluray drive for the better monitor, but I hope i'll be happy with what has been ordered.
I will probably be posting like a mad man on this forum once the building begins....Im SUPER excited!
Thank you!
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I did- I liked the cable management this case provided as well as the temperature management via fans etc. I also liked the connectors on the top of the case. For $100, I can deal if I need to change something in a few yrs.
The order has been placed! Thank you all for your comments!
Edit: apparently, there was a delay between postings and replies. Very odd...I checked and didn't see any posts, then I reply and Mithan's and the other reply showed up. That was like a 10 min delay!
Enjoy your new system, keep us posted!
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