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"Republican presidential contenders Mitt Romney and Rick Perry on Wednesday assailed Ron Paul for saying the U.S. has no business bombing Iran to keep it from acquiring a nuclear weapon"
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hOEYBUQ-O5UWCsDjsynua7wdpx9w?docId=e832903205fe420bacb1a345a7645b61
"TEHRAN, Iran (AP) – Iran's navy chief warned Wednesday that his country can easily close the strategic Strait of Hormuz at the mouth of the Persian Gulf, the passageway through which a sixth of the world's oil flows."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2011-12-28/iran-hormuz-closure/52251414/1
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Closing is one thing. Keeping it closed it quite another. 
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I heard on the radio that the Saudis said they would make up any difference in lost oil, if they try and close the Strait.
Sort of thumbing their noses at Iran 
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We can't keep nuclear technology out of the hands of our enemies forever.
We need to be pursuing long term strategies by which well armed countries can live in peace. The only strategy I can think of that would have any chance of working is one of non-interference.
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Afio posted:
I heard on the radio that the Saudis said they would make up any difference in lost oil, if they try and close the Strait.
Sort of thumbing their noses at Iran
That is physically impossible for them to do.
They are running about a 6% annual decline rate and are fudging their numbers just to maintain their share of the quota.
Iran shutting down Hormuz would be akin to all of Saudi Arabia being wiped off the face of the earth.
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If we attack Iran, it will be over oil reserves, not nukes. Every war is about natural resources, not some magical weapon that will never be fired (Except a couple of times by us, whoops).
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Des commenting on foreign policy when he obviously has no clue.
Tell me, whats the best way to shut down Iran's economy? Wait wait, whats the best way to shut down Iran's economy after applying sanctions to it? Wait wait, whats the best way to shut down Iran's economy after sanctions and having only China as its reliable trading partner where its only export is oil to China?
ding ding ding! Would it be shutting down its ability to export oil to China? As in, for the slow witted in this thread, closing the Hormuz Strait? Yeah, bring it on Iran, lets see just how hard you can punch yourself in the face.
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The US really has no business bombing Iran because of potential nuclear weapons
Ron Paul is right
Let Israel deal with it if they want
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Desnoxvu posted:
"Republican presidential contenders Mitt Romney and Rick Perry on Wednesday assailed Ron Paul for saying the U.S. has no business bombing Iran to keep it from acquiring a nuclear weapon"
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hOEYBUQ-O5UWCsDjsynua7wdpx9w?docId=e832903205fe420bacb1a345a7645b61
What Romney and Perry don't tell you that our economy (or their idea of it and their backers) is dependent on us going to war and blowing up Iran. And then of course sell them the technology and equipment to restart their programs again... $$$
Desnoxvu posted:
"TEHRAN, Iran (AP) – Iran's navy chief warned Wednesday that his country can easily close the strategic Strait of Hormuz at the mouth of the Persian Gulf, the passageway through which a sixth of the world's oil flows."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2011-12-28/iran-hormuz-closure/52251414/1
Everybody better fill up their tanks today.
Yeah - Iran's Navy could block the Strait of Hormuz for all of about ten seconds...
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Iran is totally weak. It fought for a long time with Iraq, another weak state, and we pwned Iraq in just a few weeks. The US or Israel could easily do the same with Iran. No need for fear mongering or war
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The time to attack Iran was 2003. For obvious differences and reasons, we went after Iraq instead. The only way we will go to war with Iran is if a democratic uprising attempts to overview the theocracy and we get the support of its neighbors and the UN. ...or if Ron Paul gets elected, removes our bases in the area and our military might. Iran would then nuke us falsely believing us to be weak.
Edit: wrong thread, but I'll leave it here.
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^^ With all the material to troll Ron Paul supporters over, it's pretty sad the best you could come up with was that.
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The post I was going to make in this thread:
Going to war with Iran would be a mistake. Its (or was) a semi-democratic nation with a radically country-changing voting bloc. If we attacked it would only solidify anti-western sentiment and make it a far more chaotic region.
Besides, what would do after we toppled the Ayatollah? Occupy? Pick up and leave? Steal their oil? There are no good post-war options.
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Altra_Shadowstalker posted:
Des commenting on foreign policy when he obviously has no clue.
Tell me, whats the best way to shut down Iran's economy? Wait wait, whats the best way to shut down Iran's economy after applying sanctions to it? Wait wait, whats the best way to shut down Iran's economy after sanctions and having only China as its reliable trading partner where its only export is oil to China?
ding ding ding! Would it be shutting down its ability to export oil to China? As in, for the slow witted in this thread, closing the Hormuz Strait? Yeah, bring it on Iran, lets see just how hard you can punch yourself in the face.
I have no clue on foregin policy. Hmm.. let's start with Iran. Have you spoken to any Iranians today? A 17 Iranian told me today that the young people of Iran actually support the US and are very western when it comes to culture.
But guess what happens when if America attacks Iran? Well apparently the Iranian people start supporting a facist Iranian regime even though the youth of that nation would much rather be a peaceful partner with America.
The Military supports Ron Paul more than all of the other republican candidates combined. So if you want to feel safe then maybe you should sign up or buy a gun and take us on.
By the way.. you should probably change your icon. You are not interesting and I highly doubt you have 1/20th the spanish blood than I do.
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Desnoxvu posted:
Altra_Shadowstalker posted:
Des commenting on foreign policy when he obviously has no clue.
Tell me, whats the best way to shut down Iran's economy? Wait wait, whats the best way to shut down Iran's economy after applying sanctions to it? Wait wait, whats the best way to shut down Iran's economy after sanctions and having only China as its reliable trading partner where its only export is oil to China?
ding ding ding! Would it be shutting down its ability to export oil to China? As in, for the slow witted in this thread, closing the Hormuz Strait? Yeah, bring it on Iran, lets see just how hard you can punch yourself in the face.
I have no clue on foregin policy. Hmm.. let's start with Iran. Have you spoken to any Iranians today? A 17 Iranian told me today that the young people of Iran actually support the US and are very western when it comes to culture.
But guess what happens when if America attacks Iran? Well apparently the Iranian people start supporting a facist Iranian regime even though the youth of that nation would much rather be a peaceful partner with America.
The Military supports Ron Paul more than all of the other republican candidates combined. So if you want to feel safe then maybe you should sign up or buy a gun and take us on.
By the way.. you should probably change your icon. You are not interesting and I highly doubt you have 1/20th the spanish blood than I do.
Parroting what I said in two other threads hours ago might win you brownie points but does not show a grasp on foreign policy, especially when you basically say, "you think I'm stupid? See how high I can jump!"
Whether the Iranian population likes us or not has little to do with the ruling authority not committing economic suicide by shutting down its major source of income.
I'll keep your views on my icon in mind though.... Really! 
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Here is some more research material for you grasshopper.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtELk8S3dhU&feature=youtu.be
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I wouldnt vote for republicans just because of their stance on Iran. I dont want to go to any more pointless and expensive wars.
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Desnoxvu: "[fear mongering] vote for Ron Paul."
Altra: "Iran isn't going to shut down the Strait, you don't have a clue."
Desnoxvu: "No... BUT! here's a video of a travel guide!"
How do you change the subject in your own thread??
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Well I am basically saying you are a little b1tch who don't know nothing about the dark streets of this world. If you want a lesson get your viza ready and I can connect you to any dark alley that you are fearing. Hit your fear straight on. Or just be a coward.
What spot you want? Let's make it easy, how about Mexico? My cousin just got AK47'd to the face from fast and furious weapons. But don't worry, you have that tough spanish icon so that is no problem for you huh tough guy.
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Desnoxvu posted:
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Lolz, Thug pays money to VN.
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Oh noes! A Wrong Paul supporter trying to talk big! Was your cousin a member of Anonymous?
When his name goes on his enemies death warrants, will you claim he didn't know about it, but rubber stamped it anyway?
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His last name was Martinez. It was in Juarez, Mexico. He was shot 3 times in the face and his brother was shot in the body. Both of them died but his other brother survived a single bullet wound and he was the main target.
None of them were members of anon.
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Lolz, Thug pays money to VN.
Wait what?
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Afio posted:
I heard on the radio that the Saudis said they would make up any difference in lost oil, if they try and close the Strait.
Sort of thumbing their noses at Iran
Considering they are opposing sects of Islam, not surprising at all. Also consider Saudi is a puppet regime of the US ..
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Bomb them and take it ! Its the american way!
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