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AMD and Nvidia have a new generation of video cards coming for us in 2012. But the companies are taking very different approaches to their product launch.
AMD will start with a top down launch, the highest end 7900 series will launch first in January. Also only the 7900 series uses a new architecture. The 7800 series and down are all the old architecture with a die shrink.
Nvidia on the other hand will start from bottom up. And for high end buyers this is gonna suck.
AMD will have it's high end 7900 series out in January (assuming rumors are correct and there are no last minute delays) while Nvidia's high end replacement will not be out until next Summer, so at least a 6 month head start for AMD.
January 2012:
AMD Radeon 7970/7950.
The 7900 series will be AMD high end card with the VLIW-5 and Graphics Core Next architecture, including new features such as unified memory addressing between CPU and GPU.
DirectX 11
3GB of 384 bit GDDR5 memory
6+8 pin PCI-E power required for both cards
$500 for 7970, $400 for 7950
February 2012:
AMD Radeon 7870/7850
This is basically a shrink of the Cayman based 6900 series and should have about the same performance as a 6970 and 6950.
$300 for 7870, $200 for 7850
March 2012:
AMD Radeon 7990
A dual GPU card with two 7900 series processors.
$700
March 2012:
Nvidia GK107 Kepler
Low end 128 bit Kepler
DirectX 11.1 and PCI-E 2.0
Q3 2012:
Nvidia GK106 Kepler
Mainstream 256 bit Kepler
DirectX 11.1 and PCI-E 3.0
Q3 2012:
Nvidia GK104 Kepler
High end 384 bit Kepler
DirectX 11.1 and PCI-E 3.0
Q3 2012:
Nvidia GK110 Kepler
Dual GPU 2x384 bit Kepler
DirectX 11.1 and PCI-E 3.0
Q4 2012 or Q1/2013
Nvidia GK112 Kepler
Highest end 512 bit Kepler
DirectX 11.1 and PCI-E 3.0
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Weird. Though AMD is only doing die shrinks mostly. Nvidia will probably just price match down to match performance of newer AMD cards except for the top end one.
Wonder if they are having more issues then foreseen for Kepler. Though Kepler & real 7000s mainstream cards should hit around same time. I did kinda hope for new stuff would be out for highend/mainstream by winter from all.
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The coolest part?
There is absolutely no reason to buy any of these cards right now because the latest cards currently on the market are way faster than anything people need.
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Need more power!
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-Mithan- posted:
The coolest part?
There is absolutely no reason to buy any of these cards right now because the latest cards currently on the market are way faster than anything people need.
Absolutely not true! Anyone with a decent multi monitor or pushing decent resolutions will get some definite improvement.
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Karsus_the_Great posted:
-Mithan- posted:
The coolest part?
There is absolutely no reason to buy any of these cards right now because the latest cards currently on the market are way faster than anything people need.
Absolutely not true! Anyone with a decent multi monitor or pushing decent resolutions will get some definite improvement.
Oh really?
Well guess what. I play mutli-monitors at 1920x1200 and nothing pushes me GTX580. At all. Period.
Sorry to disappoint.
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-Mithan- posted:
Karsus_the_Great posted:
-Mithan- posted:
The coolest part?
There is absolutely no reason to buy any of these cards right now because the latest cards currently on the market are way faster than anything people need.
Absolutely not true! Anyone with a decent multi monitor or pushing decent resolutions will get some definite improvement.
Oh really?
Well guess what. I play mutli-monitors at 1920x1200 and nothing pushes me GTX580. At all. Period.
Sorry to disappoint.
Your confused. I have 2x470's which is 20-30% stronger than a single 580 and I have a lot of games that I cannot get higher FPS at 6110x1200. I either have to sacrifice settings or play it in windowed mode at a lower resolution. Thats on a system running at 4.5Ghz with 24gb of ram and the subject games on a 256GB SSD... Where do YOU think my bottleneck is?
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some go by FPS... me i go by playrate! if its smooth and nice graphics i could care less if im getting 20fps or 100.granted the more the better in most cases but in a game like Rift doesnt seem to hold true.
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Don't think there is anything that will make Rift run smoothly.
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Karsus_the_Great posted:
-Mithan- posted:
Karsus_the_Great posted:
[blockquote]-Mithan- posted:
The coolest part?
There is absolutely no reason to buy any of these cards right now because the latest cards currently on the market are way faster than anything people need.
Absolutely not true! Anyone with a decent multi monitor or pushing decent resolutions will get some definite improvement.
Oh really?
Well guess what. I play mutli-monitors at 1920x1200 and nothing pushes me GTX580. At all. Period.
Sorry to disappoint.
Your confused. I have 2x470's which is 20-30% stronger than a single 580 and I have a lot of games that I cannot get higher FPS at 6110x1200. I either have to sacrifice settings or play it in windowed mode at a lower resolution. Thats on a system running at 4.5Ghz with 24gb of ram and the subject games on a 256GB SSD... Where do YOU think my bottleneck is?
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Ah yes, the multiple monitor falacy.
I guess I better hook up 12 monitors on the wall and then claim nothing runs it.
Sorry, but I am talking realistic uses and you fall somewhere in the less than 1%.
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I am sorry, but you are wrong. There is a HUGE diff between running a game with two monitors hooked up and running a game in multi monitor mode/resolutions.
And no, I am not in the 1%. Depending on who's statistics you believe I am in the 8-11% range. But just like when nobody believed me when I said 64 bit would and should be mainstream, multi monitor is growing and growing FAST. It's one of the bigger selling points of AMD cards ffs. If AMD was not so ridiculously difficult to get to work correctly on Linux I would be on AMD now.
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There is a rumor floating around that the 7970 could have a launch December 22nd (less than a week from now). Though that could also just be a paper launch with very little product actually available.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/AMD-Tahiti-Southern-Islands-Radeon-Rory-Read,14288.html
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