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Topic: @ Joe Paterno

RedCardinal Posts: 1,247 Registered: Mar 22, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 1,105 User ID: 906,418	Subject: @ Joe Paterno
	Well just wondering if any one but me thinks this guy is there scapegoat. Heck of a way to show your thanks for all he done for that college. -----signature----- RR9L9 Ranger galahad ML10 CL10 Anita Carter Greatest Female Vocalest ever Sammy Baugh #33 All Time Greatest QB Emerald Axe 1995-2009 RIP
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Amurdora Title: Scourge of Nsaney Posts: 1,065 Registered: Aug 19, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 941 User ID: 957,305	Subject: @ Joe Paterno
	Like I was telling Hela on facebook. His inactivity, while totally legal, resulted in more children being sexually assaulted. You might not have the legal obligation to call the police once you've reported it up your chain of command, but you have the moral obligation to do something. Also, from a less moralistic veiwpoint, there is absolutely no way you could keep Joe Pa around because if you notice, no one is talking about Penn State football anymore. The kids on that team don't deserve to have their season distracted because their coach is a moron. Every press confrence for the next several months would be nothing but asking him why he didn't do more to protect those kids. I mean really, you hear that someone was doing something to a kid sexually, regardless of what it is, and you aren't gonna question why the police weren't involved in anyway? Again, due to his inactivity, more kids were sexually assaulted. Being fired as a consequence of that is an extremely small price to pay relative to what those kids had to go through. Especially considering that Joe Pa could have prevented it. All the talk about him being a class act etc goes out the window. At the end of the day, he allowed more kids to be sexually assaulted by his inactivity. That isn't a class acr, not by any stretch of the imagination. -----signature----- Amurdora Voltagex Amur (insert something stupid here)
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Umlap Title: the original d-oh-double-g Posts: 32,256 Registered: Apr 5, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 26,569 User ID: 787,813	Subject: @ Joe Paterno
	If this were anyone else at that school - or any other school - no one would be screaming for the guy to stick around. One thing that ticks me off about this country is that if people are big names or do good things, they get off scott free because we want them to. Screw that. If you do something [or in this case, don't], there should be consequences. Yeah, so Joe offered his resignation effective at the end of the season - not enough. Amur hit it on the head - no one is talking Penn State football atm. You hear "Penn state," you hear "sex abuse." -----signature----- cb umlap <+1folife> reporting for duty dogscratch um**p reab all moved elsewhere
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Thaag_Simmons Title: I'm not even supposed to be here today! Posts: 105,401 Registered: Mar 17, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 104,248 User ID: 658,493	Subject: @ Joe Paterno
	As a PA native, I say eff him. When it comes to child rape you do more than the absolute minimum necessary. And look at how without even consulting the board he issued a statement saying when he would retire, and ordering them not to spend a minute of their time discussing it. Well, the board went and did the absolute minimum necessary by informing him over the phone that he was fired. How wonderfully appropriate. He did a lot of good for the campus and his players and the school over many many years, but it doesn't excuse uncaring inaction that allowed god knows how many more innocent children to have their lives permanently shattered. The culture of power he was at the center of there enabled him and far too many other people to look the other way to avoid staining the program. -----signature----- http://www.orrville.com
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Xojkin Posts: 17,466 Registered: Jan 24, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 16,033 User ID: 886,747	Subject: @ Joe Paterno
	Everyone knows he held his legal responsibility and it sucks so much that his career now has a sh*t stain all over it. But he had to know at some point it was all going to catch up with him. And if he didn't think it would catch up with him he is such an egomaniac it doesn't matter regardless. Yes it sucks but I agree that there has to be a complete housekeeping done and that university both academically and athletically will be severely damaged for a few years if not more. -----signature----- XBL :: MattStubbs [ONx][405] DAoC :: Horn [Plan B].[Nezumi].[Obviously Newbs].[Faoin Uaill] -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Oklahoma State.
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west.side Title: Moderator Posts: 11,072 Registered: May 23, '00 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 9,430 User ID: 25,939	Subject: @ Joe Paterno
	RedCardinal posted: Well just wondering if any one but me thinks this guy is there scapegoat. Heck of a way to show your thanks for all he done for that college. Not doing anything about your coaches molesting children is a heck of a way to show your thanks for people thinking youre not a scumbag -----signature----- waiting for swtor??? i guess Westside, Darkfall; Rift WAR; Coh: SWG: Planetside: AC1+2: Neocron Wow: Illidan, Daoc: Galahad, Nimue, Gareth: Westside
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Milkand Title: Transfarmer Posts: 35,284 Registered: Mar 8, '05 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 23,402 User ID: 1,033,879	Subject: @ Joe Paterno
	sammy baugh would never have done this sort of thing -----signature----- http://ytmndjapan.ytmnd.com/ http://gobstolemysegway.ytmnd.com/
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Amurdora Title: Scourge of Nsaney Posts: 1,065 Registered: Aug 19, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 941 User ID: 957,305	Subject: @ Joe Paterno
	Did you all read about the Red Sox fan in 1991 that had to hold up a sign about how he was molested by a guy working for the Red Sox, and that they covered it up for 30 years? http://espn.go.com/espn/commentary/story/_/id/7208029/penn-state-joe-paterno-failure-power -----signature----- Amurdora Voltagex Amur (insert something stupid here)
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Lasrael_Hellblade Title: L of ~TL~: VN Justice League Posts: 9,086 Registered: Sep 29, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 8,035 User ID: 721,639	Subject: @ Joe Paterno
	Milkand posted: sammy baugh would never have done this sort of thing -----signature----- XBL and PSN: Shad0wn9ne
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RedCardinal Posts: 1,247 Registered: Mar 22, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 1,105 User ID: 906,418	Subject: @ Joe Paterno
	Well my self i dont think Joe did anything wrong at all he told the people above him they are the ones to blame. If the person in question is guilty of doing those things to begin with. This stuff is nothing comprared to the news that Iran is trying to build a nuke. Not that i dont think they have every right to do but the US will try to use that as a excuse to mess with them and nothing good will come of it. -----signature----- RR9L9 Ranger galahad ML10 CL10 Anita Carter Greatest Female Vocalest ever Sammy Baugh #33 All Time Greatest QB Emerald Axe 1995-2009 RIP
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Umlap Title: the original d-oh-double-g Posts: 32,256 Registered: Apr 5, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 26,569 User ID: 787,813	Subject: @ Joe Paterno
	RedCardinal posted: Well my self i dont think Joe did anything wrong at all he told the people above him they are the ones to blame. No sir. If I'm say, in a retail environment where a coworker is stealing a little money from his register and I'm aware, it's my duty to tell a superior and they're free to deal with it as they wish. It's off my back. However, in a sexual-abuse-in-a-school scenario, if someone under my authority is accused of abusing a student, it's my duty to inform a superior as well as do what's in my power to remove the student and/or teacher/coach from the situation. You can't knowingly leave someone in power who has abused a child, even if he's simply accused and it's not yet been proven. In my mind, the reason you can't do so is common sense, but in the case that it's not: 1) if the abuse actually occurred, pulling him from that position will prevent it happening again, 2) if it hasn't been proven to have occurred, it keeps the coach/teacher in the clear from further allegations in the meantime until he's been proven innocent. It's a no brainer - pull him from the situation as soon as there are allegations. You can't gamble with kids' futures by leaving him in. RedCardinal posted: If the person in question is guilty of doing those things to begin with. This stuff is nothing comprared to the news that Iran is trying to build a nuke. Not that i dont think they have every right to do but the US will try to use that as a excuse to mess with them and nothing good will come of it. Again, if he's guilty, he will have been pulled before damaging other kids. If he's not, he's safe[r] from allegations. Also, red herring. -----signature----- cb umlap <+1folife> reporting for duty dogscratch um**p reab all moved elsewhere
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Amurdora Title: Scourge of Nsaney Posts: 1,065 Registered: Aug 19, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 941 User ID: 957,305	Subject: @ Joe Paterno
	True story Um. Also, I wouldn't be suprised if they do pull down Joe Pa and all the rest of those guys based on the law that a teacher is required by law to report instances of sexual abuse. I can easily see them extending that to the University level and dropping the hammer on everyone. Also, this isn't just Joe Pa, it's everyone from McQuerry all the way through the University President. They all f'd up. -----signature----- Amurdora Voltagex Amur (insert something stupid here)
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Thaag_Simmons Title: I'm not even supposed to be here today! Posts: 105,401 Registered: Mar 17, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 104,248 User ID: 658,493	Subject: @ Joe Paterno
	Amurdora posted: True story Um. Also, I wouldn't be suprised if they do pull down Joe Pa and all the rest of those guys based on the law that a teacher is required by law to report instances of sexual abuse. I can easily see them extending that to the University level and dropping the hammer on everyone. Also, this isn't just Joe Pa, it's everyone from McQuerry all the way through the University President. They all f'd up. Yup, and the fact that this defensive genius coach reportedly didn't get any job offers strongly suggests this little secret was pretty well known - I think there will be more and more folks to blame. Also, I'm starting to suspect Sammy Baugh was a child molester who sold nuclear secrets to the Middle East and this is an effort to retroactively excuse his actions. -----signature----- http://www.orrville.com
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west.side Title: Moderator Posts: 11,072 Registered: May 23, '00 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 9,430 User ID: 25,939	Subject: @ Joe Paterno
	RedCardinal posted: Well my self i dont think Joe did anything wrong at all he told the people above him they are the ones to blame. If the person in question is guilty of doing those things to begin with. This stuff is nothing comprared to the news that Iran is trying to build a nuke. Not that i dont think they have every right to do but the US will try to use that as a excuse to mess with them and nothing good will come of it. I am sure that these events mean much for the victims than any news that Iran is trying to build a nuke (which they have been trying to do for decades) IMO there was a way for Paterno to prevent future occurances of this heinous act, and he did not do everything in his power to do so We arent talking about someone having some weed in their pocket and their boss telling them to knock it off instead of calling the cops, we are talking about knowingly keeping a man on campus that was molesting children... -----signature----- waiting for swtor??? i guess Westside, Darkfall; Rift WAR; Coh: SWG: Planetside: AC1+2: Neocron Wow: Illidan, Daoc: Galahad, Nimue, Gareth: Westside
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Milkand Title: Transfarmer Posts: 35,284 Registered: Mar 8, '05 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 23,402 User ID: 1,033,879	Subject: @ Joe Paterno
	also, i'm fairly certain joe paterno doesn't check the boards anymore -----signature----- http://ytmndjapan.ytmnd.com/ http://gobstolemysegway.ytmnd.com/
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Amurdora Title: Scourge of Nsaney Posts: 1,065 Registered: Aug 19, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 941 User ID: 957,305	Subject: @ Joe Paterno
	Nsaney still checks the boards what are you talking about? -----signature----- Amurdora Voltagex Amur (insert something stupid here)
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Nsaney Title: STFU IN HERE! Posts: 27,803 Registered: Oct 6, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 23,044 User ID: 724,431	Subject: @ Joe Paterno
	Amurdora posted: Nsaney still checks the boards what are you talking about? But the couch and anyone who knew about it and did nothing should do jail time and be put in cells with known prison rapists. -----signature----- http://nsaneys.blogspot.com <<<------ Motivational Pictures (Click on me: DO IT!) "Look, that rabbit's got a vicious streak a mile wide! It's a killer!" That which can be destroyed by the truth should be. -P.C. Hodgell
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Umlap Title: the original d-oh-double-g Posts: 32,256 Registered: Apr 5, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 26,569 User ID: 787,813	Subject: @ Joe Paterno
	It's my understanding that there are plenty of couches in jail -----signature----- cb umlap <+1folife> reporting for duty dogscratch um**p reab all moved elsewhere
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Nsaney Title: STFU IN HERE! Posts: 27,803 Registered: Oct 6, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 23,044 User ID: 724,431	Subject: @ Joe Paterno
	God damn it! -----signature----- http://nsaneys.blogspot.com <<<------ Motivational Pictures (Click on me: DO IT!) "Look, that rabbit's got a vicious streak a mile wide! It's a killer!" That which can be destroyed by the truth should be. -P.C. Hodgell
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