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specifically looking for something comparing speed, reliability, and average lifespan.
Would prefer if it was a comparison done this year.
I'm considering the following SATA III drives:
Corsair Force Series 3 CSSD-F180GB3-BK 2.5" 180GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive ---- speedy, larger than 120,
OCZ Vertex 3 VTX3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive --- FAST but by most reports a bit of a PITA
Intel 510 Series (Elm Crest) SSDSC2MH120A2K5 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive --- slower, and paying extra for the Intel brand
Im leaning towards the Corsair to be honest but the one thing I'm not getting is a sense of the lifespan of these drives aside from the OCZ seeming to have a lot of reports of dying young. The techs been out a few years so I would think that it would be more reliable by now.
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The Corsair and the OCZ you listed are basically the same.
Intel are probably the best all around but you do pay a premium and until they get their own internal 3rd generation chip released, I don't see a big reason to pay such a premium right now. What I like about Intel though is that they have a lower failure rate than anybody else and good software.
OCZ are decent but they have a bit of a high crap out rate, which is probably due to them being the first to use that 3rd generation Sandforce controller. I also don't like their garbage cleanup software.
The Corsair I don't know much at all about but I trust Corsair's name.
Performance wise, the OCZ and Corsair are basically similar so I would go for either of those based on price/size of HDD and avoid the Intel.
For an FYI, I own a Intel X25 80GB, Vertex 2 96GB, Vertex 2 60GB and my brother has a Solid2 (the one that bricked when we flashed it).
I've been looking at buying a Vertex or Agility 3 120GB for about $160 when NCIX runs their next sale but I might get the Corsair if its cheaper.
I am sure Ravy will respond, he follows these a bit closer than I do but I doubt he will say much different.
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Something else to consider perhaps is warranty. OCZ fixed my brothers bricked drive quickly so I have no issue with OCZ tech support personally, but I have heard others say they had issues. So far, I have replaced 2 PSU's and a HD through OCZ. Hardly great numbers.... I no longer buy their PSU's though and will stick with Corsair PSU's in the future.
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I RMA'd a year old Vertex a while back, and they didn't give me any trouble. It was a 5 minute chat, a ticket, and off the drive goes.
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-nand-reliability,3021-3.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sf-2200-sandforce-ssd,2987.html
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Just stay away from the sandforce and you should be ok. I just bought an 256GB M4 and it's rock solid after two OCZ's, one of which died on me. I think I will stick with the M4's from now on.
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-Mithan- posted:
I've been looking at buying a Vertex or Agility 3 120GB for about $160 when NCIX runs their next sale but I might get the Corsair if its cheaper.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59354&vpn=VTX3%2D25SAT3%2D120G&manufacture=OCZ%20Technology&promoid=1316
that one?
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In the end I took Karsus's advice and bought a 128 gig M4
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Crucial makes great SSDs. I have the 128 M4 myself.
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I purchased a OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD3-2VTX120G 3.5" 120GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) back in february. For the 3 months it worked is was absolutely fantastic. Then it crashed unrecoverable. I couldnt even load windows up on it after it crashed. Reformatting was impossible. Since then I have been RMA'ed 2 of them that each have crapped out after 2 months. Im extremely pissed and wish they would have just sent me a lower version of one of the ones that wasnt complete shit.
They're absolutely terrible. The company sucks and the customer service sucks. I'll never buy one of their products again.
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Beware anecdotal evidence IMO. The one thing I try to explain to most people is that customer service most of the time is nearly random. People have 1 experience and then label a company as good or bad.
Even worse, some customers are so angry they refuse to be helped. I know that sounds counter-intuitive, but I'd literally get customers that wouldn't let me help them. They decided they knew what was best, then put themselves through hell - and it was like self fulfilling prophecy.
I guess at the end of the day I'm more apathetic because the way I see it, everyone is getting screwed everywhere. If you are not, or have not been, then you are just lucky. I've worked too many tech support jobs, and I've not EVER done support for a company that truly emphasizes quality.
Also, you didn't mention flashing the drive which is suspect as that fixes quite a few issues. Its called a destructive flash, and you have to get them to email you the .exe. I had to do it to one of my drives for whatever reason. Just sayin'
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Marzuk posted:
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Beware anecdotal evidence IMO. The one thing I try to explain to most people is that customer service most of the time is nearly random. People have 1 experience and then label a company as good or bad.
Even worse, some customers are so angry they refuse to be helped. I know that sounds counter-intuitive, but I'd literally get customers that wouldn't let me help them. They decided they knew what was best, then put themselves through hell - and it was like self fulfilling prophecy.
I guess at the end of the day I'm more apathetic because the way I see it, everyone is getting screwed everywhere. If you are not, or have not been, then you are just lucky. I've worked too many tech support jobs, and I've not EVER done support for a company that truly emphasizes quality.
Also, you didn't mention flashing the drive which is suspect as that fixes quite a few issues. Its called a destructive flash, and you have to get them to email you the .exe. I had to do it to one of my drives for whatever reason. Just sayin'
Anecdotal. Right. Three separate occasions where the support staff was almost unwilling to assist me until I demanded to speak with the next level above them. If the drive needed to be flash with a specific download/exe then this just proves that the customer service is lackluster in that I was never told this.
I'm all for being helped. I worked in a vet for 6 years helping people get through tough times with their pets when they didn't have money and just wanted their pet to feel better and being angry at the world because they couldn't afford to the procedure/medication needed for the pet to get better. While this isn't the exact same type of customer service, I do get that people get blinded by anger. Mine is not the case. In all 3 encounters with OCZ support staff, they were not knowledgeable to my problem, hesitant to remedy the problem, and the third one I called about when it was crashed, I was told they would not fulfill the warranty on. I could file a lawsuit at this point but it isn't worth the time or energy.
I've been screwed on tech supplies a few time, but the customer service in my experience has always been great. Hell I had an issue with an ati 3850 a few years ago and they got me out a new card as well as 2 games for my troubles. I didn't need those games or want them, so i ebayed them, but it was incredibly solid customer support there from the time I got on the phone, to the time I got off. A few months ago I had an issue with Dell and they more or less refused to help me even though I knew what the problem was. Ravynmagi being an awesome guy and contracted through dell as a repairman was able to get me what I needed without the hassle that the dell tech support was giving me. I am a very rational guy and understand when things go wrong but when your company makes a poor quality product (no matter their history on great products) and gives poor customer service, there is going to be some negative feedback about it.
On all three occasions, OCZ's customer service was on par with Verizon. I'm clearly blinded by anger so everything I'm saying is anecdotal and not the norm, even though there are over a 50 cases like mine on newegg alone.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence
Also, 50 cases out of how many? Note that I'm not saying that my experience with RMA'ing a product means they have great customer service because that would be, you guessed it, anecdotal.
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As far as support goes, I only went through that for the RMA. The destructive flash solved my issue with the other drive (but not the one that was RMA'd). How did I know? How did I get it? Answer: their forums. While this may cause a tirade of "blah blah blah I shouldn't have to", I'm an IT guy so I call people when the troubleshooting is done, not to get help. That might not be average, but its important to factor in that many companies are using forums to alleviate the costs of support for consumer level products.
My support experience was literally:
Hey, got a drive, S/N: **** P/N: ****, not recognized by bios at boot. Attempted destructive flash with the .exe used (because it needs to match the drive) and 5 minutes later I had an RMA.
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Fozzie_Bear posted:
specifically looking for something comparing speed, reliability, and average lifespan.
Would prefer if it was a comparison done this year.
I'm considering the following SATA III drives:
Corsair Force Series 3 CSSD-F180GB3-BK 2.5" 180GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive ---- speedy, larger than 120,
OCZ Vertex 3 VTX3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive --- FAST but by most reports a bit of a PITA
Intel 510 Series (Elm Crest) SSDSC2MH120A2K5 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive --- slower, and paying extra for the Intel brand
Im leaning towards the Corsair to be honest but the one thing I'm not getting is a sense of the lifespan of these drives aside from the OCZ seeming to have a lot of reports of dying young. The techs been out a few years so I would think that it would be more reliable by now.
Kingston Hyper X SSD's will compete with all of these. I just build a new rig with a Kingston and it boots from power to windows desktop in 9sec unoptomized.
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