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http://www.dailytech.com/Steve+Jobs+Im+Going+to+Destroy+Android+Because+Its+a+Stolen+Product/article23077.htm
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I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong. I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this.
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Humorous and enlightening stuff there..
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Funny, he acts like he has not taken anything from any other company. Including android.
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Jobs posted:
Good artists copy, great artists steal. We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas!
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classic case of a total pyschopath.
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Marzuk posted:
Jobs posted:
Good artists copy, great artists steal. We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas!
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I am willing to give Jobs credit where it is due as he did clearly have an impact on the technology scene. That said, and I know this sounds mean but his presence won't be missed. I wish cancer on NO ONE! I watched my mother die of it and would give anything to see it eradicated so I have all the pity in the world for Jobs on that front. That said, he was an arrogant prick that despite all his bitching and moaning about Bill Gates and Microsoft was basically doing exactly the same things he was so critical of them over. He copied just as much as anyone else and spent more time in court suing others for doing the very same thing. His model, though wildly successful, of selling you tiny incremental updates each year (of tech that was current when he released his products without it) is something we can do without. He stifled competition more than anyone else in the industry and had the strangest knack of missing the obvious. You STILL can't get a Mac with a Blu-Ray because this lunatic felt it is a passing fad. I am truly glad his long battle with that atrocious disease is at an end and hope he has moved on to peace. I also feel for his family as I know how hard it is to lose someone close. In the end though, the tech industry will do just fine and may just put some of this silly innovation through litigation crap that Jobs was so good at behind us.
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Stealing ideas is how innovation in products happens.
You create an idea, I steal it and innovate it, the next guy sees what I did and takes it even further.
That is what our entire society is based on over the years.
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LOL -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0DUg63lqU
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http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-10/24/iris-siri-android
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Jobs didn't want Bluray players in Mac's because he believes streaming is the way to go and Bluray has some licensing issues he didn't want to deal with. It would increase the cost of the computer as well. Bluray is not going to replace the DVD. Streaming and Digital downloads are the way of the future. It would be hypocritical for him to think otherwise, since his iTunes based App Store has Music, Apps and streamable movie rentals.
Everyone is on the digital download "app store" thing these days. Steam's been doing it for years, now EA has Origin and even Microsoft is doing it with Windows 8.
I have a PS3 for Bluray's and no PC in my house has or needs a Bluray player as it's optical drive. No games are shipping on Bluray except for the PS3.
Look at the Android phones. They look like iPhones. Slate look, touch screen, little square icons in rows, etc. It's a total rip off. No phone looked or acted like that before the iPhone.
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No phone looked or acted like that before the iPhone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Prada_%28KE850%29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHJuYB7Qji4&feature=related
Not bad for a phone that came out several months before the iPhone.
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_Taebo_ posted:
Jobs didn't want Bluray players in Mac's because he believes streaming is the way to go and Bluray has some licensing issues he didn't want to deal with. It would increase the cost of the computer as well. Bluray is not going to replace the DVD. Streaming and Digital downloads are the way of the future. It would be hypocritical for him to think otherwise, since his iTunes based App Store has Music, Apps and streamable movie rentals.
Everyone is on the digital download "app store" thing these days. Steam's been doing it for years, now EA has Origin and even Microsoft is doing it with Windows 8.
I have a PS3 for Bluray's and no PC in my house has or needs a Bluray player as it's optical drive. No games are shipping on Bluray except for the PS3.
My pc has bluray and love it. XBMC >>>> streaming for my action movies. Maybe if they sent less compressed crap, but then again who has bandwidth for that + the caps to not pay an arm and a leg to your ISP. Would love to see 4k movies over 3d, but both those have more bandwidth requirements. Streaming will have its place, but never a full replacement for physical media at the rate things are going.
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Look at the Android phones. They look like iPhones. Slate look, touch screen, little square icons in rows, etc. It's a total rip off. No phone looked or acted like that before the iPhone.
Majority of what is in iphone is prior art. Apple just patented slide to unlock. Its been around for years prior to apple doing it. Just one example of what is wrong with patent system. Hell apple was built on stealing interface ideas from xerox. The whole thing is comical if it was not so sad.
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Majority of what is in iphone is prior art.
Yep. It would be like J.K.Rowling claiming to invent the "boy growing up to be a wizard destined to fight bad guy" archetype.
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_Taebo_ posted:
Jobs didn't want Bluray players in Mac's because he believes streaming is the way to go and Bluray has some licensing issues he didn't want to deal with. It would increase the cost of the computer as well. Bluray is not going to replace the DVD. Streaming and Digital downloads are the way of the future. It would be hypocritical for him to think otherwise, since his iTunes based App Store has Music, Apps and streamable movie rentals.
Everyone is on the digital download "app store" thing these days. Steam's been doing it for years, now EA has Origin and even Microsoft is doing it with Windows 8.
I have a PS3 for Bluray's and no PC in my house has or needs a Bluray player as it's optical drive. No games are shipping on Bluray except for the PS3.
Look at the Android phones. They look like iPhones. Slate look, touch screen, little square icons in rows, etc. It's a total rip off. No phone looked or acted like that before the iPhone.
Digital distribution will never take over as long as ISP's have data caps on our internet connections. No doubt it's very popular right now, but so is red box.
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Marzuk posted:
_Taebo_ posted:
No phone looked or acted like that before the iPhone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Prada_%28KE850%29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHJuYB7Qji4&feature=related
Not bad for a phone that came out several months before the iPhone.
Samsung had a phone like the iphon back in the early 2000's, it had no physical key board. My old boss had it on sprint.
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_Taebo_ posted:
Jobs didn't want Bluray players in Mac's because he believes streaming is the way to go and Bluray has some licensing issues he didn't want to deal with. It would increase the cost of the computer as well. Bluray is not going to replace the DVD. Streaming and Digital downloads are the way of the future. It would be hypocritical for him to think otherwise, since his iTunes based App Store has Music, Apps and streamable movie rentals.
Everyone is on the digital download "app store" thing these days. Steam's been doing it for years, now EA has Origin and even Microsoft is doing it with Windows 8.
I have a PS3 for Bluray's and no PC in my house has or needs a Bluray player as it's optical drive. No games are shipping on Bluray except for the PS3.
Look at the Android phones. They look like iPhones. Slate look, touch screen, little square icons in rows, etc. It's a total rip off. No phone looked or acted like that before the iPhone.
What does it feel like to be this wrong about something? Just curious.
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Samsung had a phone like the iphon back in the early 2000's, it had no physical key board. My old boss had it on sprint.
True, I was just demonstrating that the iPhone is in no way an original concept, and I only needed 1 phone to do that  I'm sure there are quite a few others.
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I'm pretty sure a late 90s Palm Pilot shares the same sleek look.
Maybe Apple should go sue them, a lot!
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What does it feel like to be this wrong about something? Just curious.
lol, was kinda thinking same thing.
Renegade. posted:
I'm pretty sure a late 90s Palm Pilot shares the same sleek look.
Maybe Apple should go sue them, a lot!
HP did Apple's job for them there. Too late I guess.
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Lonestar_1 posted:
_Taebo_ posted:
Jobs didn't want Bluray players in Mac's because he believes streaming is the way to go and Bluray has some licensing issues he didn't want to deal with. It would increase the cost of the computer as well. Bluray is not going to replace the DVD. Streaming and Digital downloads are the way of the future. It would be hypocritical for him to think otherwise, since his iTunes based App Store has Music, Apps and streamable movie rentals.
Everyone is on the digital download "app store" thing these days. Steam's been doing it for years, now EA has Origin and even Microsoft is doing it with Windows 8.
I have a PS3 for Bluray's and no PC in my house has or needs a Bluray player as it's optical drive. No games are shipping on Bluray except for the PS3.
My pc has bluray and love it. XBMC >>>> streaming for my action movies. Maybe if they sent less compressed crap, but then again who has bandwidth for that + the caps to not pay an arm and a leg to your ISP. Would love to see 4k movies over 3d, but both those have more bandwidth requirements. Streaming will have its place, but never a full replacement for physical media at the rate things are going.
To add. It is not cost that keeps apple from having bluray. It is that by the time that bluray drives and software was around, apple had the store front going. Why have users bring in media when they can rent/buy a highly compressed proprietary format from you getting a 30% cut. Its not the "future", its profit.
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_Taebo_ posted:
Jobs didn't want Bluray players in Mac's because he believes streaming is the way to go and Bluray has some licensing issues he didn't want to deal with. It would increase the cost of the computer as well. Bluray is not going to replace the DVD. Streaming and Digital downloads are the way of the future. It would be hypocritical for him to think otherwise, since his iTunes based App Store has Music, Apps and streamable movie rentals.
Everyone is on the digital download "app store" thing these days. Steam's been doing it for years, now EA has Origin and even Microsoft is doing it with Windows 8.
I have a PS3 for Bluray's and no PC in my house has or needs a Bluray player as it's optical drive. No games are shipping on Bluray except for the PS3.
Look at the Android phones. They look like iPhones. Slate look, touch screen, little square icons in rows, etc. It's a total rip off. No phone looked or acted like that before the iPhone.
I think it would have been difficult to be wrong about more stuff in one post.
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Jobs didn't want Bluray players in Mac's because he believes streaming is the way to go and Bluray has some licensing issues he didn't want to deal with. It would increase the cost of the computer as well. Bluray is not going to replace the DVD. Streaming and Digital downloads are the way of the future. It would be hypocritical for him to think otherwise, since his iTunes based App Store has Music, Apps and streamable movie rentals.
Everyone is on the digital download "app store" thing these days. Steam's been doing it for years, now EA has Origin and even Microsoft is doing it with Windows 8.
I have a PS3 for Bluray's and no PC in my house has or needs a Bluray player as it's optical drive. No games are shipping on Bluray except for the PS3.
Look at the Android phones. They look like iPhones. Slate look, touch screen, little square icons in rows, etc. It's a total rip off. No phone looked or acted like that before the iPhone.
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If I recall correctly, there was a whole slew of htc windows 4, 5, and 6 phones that had very similar physical features long before the iPhone came out.
*edit* Not windows 6 btw, just looked it up and it came out roughly same time as iPhone, but the windows 4 and windows 5 phones were there first. (4 was called 2003)
Windows 2003 example:
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What Jobs and Apple do is basically taking an existing tech and making it easy to use to a point where any non-tech person can turn it on and do what they have to. This, of course is great, but many people give them more credit than they deserve.
I do agree with the comment that the market might see more innovation with Jobs gone. iphone competition was artificially slowed down for a few years by the silly Apple patents on touch screen and multi-touch. Not even talking about the ridiculous law suits against Samsung for making slim devices with 4 corners.
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Wasn't it Bill Gates who said that the Tablet was the future in like 2001?
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IvanDF posted:
Marzuk posted:
_Taebo_ posted:
No phone looked or acted like that before the iPhone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Prada_%28KE850%29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHJuYB7Qji4&feature=related
Not bad for a phone that came out several months before the iPhone.
Samsung had a phone like the iphon back in the early 2000's, it had no physical key board. My old boss had it on sprint.
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In the biography "Steve Jobs," author Walter Isaacson quotes Jobs saying of Gates: "Bill is basically unimaginative and has never invented anything, which is why I think he's more comfortable now in philanthropy than technology. He just shamelessly ripped off other people's ideas."
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oh snap!
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I'm not a Apple fanboi but I like their stuff.
There's just a bunch of Apple haters here. Wrong about so many things? These are opinions.
I will break it down:
Jobs didn't want Bluray players in Mac's because he believes streaming is the way to go and Bluray has some licensing issues he didn't want to deal with. It would increase the cost of the computer as well.
These are not Job's exact words, but this is how he felt about Bluray. That's him, not me. Here's a link, with the original bag of hurt link in the article as well.
http://www.techradar.com/news/video/blu-ray/jobs-says-no-to-blu-ray-on-macs-again-700614?src=rss&attr=all
Bluray is not going to replace the DVD. Streaming and Digital downloads are the way of the future. It would be hypocritical for him to think otherwise, since his iTunes based App Store has Music, Apps and streamable movie rentals.
This is just my opinion. I know a lot of people that have Netflix or Hulu and stream movies. They don't really buy many DVD's and I still know many people that don't even have a bluray player.
Everyone is on the digital download "app store" thing these days. Steam's been doing it for years, now EA has Origin and even Microsoft is doing it with Windows 8.
Not sure what's so false or wrong about this statement. Why is MS putting an App store in Windows 8? Even Android has a marketplace and Amazon's new Kindle is based on this model.
I have a PS3 for Bluray's and no PC in my house has or needs a Bluray player as it's optical drive. No games are shipping on Bluray except for the PS3.
This is just my opinion based on what I have or need. I can stream to any PC, for bluray, I'd have to install hardware in each PC.
Look at the Android phones. They look like iPhones. Slate look, touch screen, little square icons in rows, etc. It's a total rip off. No phone looked or acted like that before the iPhone.
Ok, this is my opinion as well, but it's not completely true or false. What I meant was there wasn't any company that put a phone like the iPhone in a complete working package before or we would have had an iPhone type phone back in 2006 or 2001 or 2000 like you are saying. If they were so great, why hasn't anyone heard of them? Why do you see so many phones like the iPhone now? Because it was successful and it's often imitated. I don't remember any touch screen phones with gestures, 4 rows of 4 icon layout screens, web browser, app stores, music player, video players, etc prior to 2007.
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Several things still wrong. Think of the iPhone like World of Warcraft. WoW was not the first of it's kind to come along, not by a long shot, but it took off like a bat out of hell because of several factors that just gelled together at the right time. A company with a solid backing fan base, slick presentation, many (NOT original) ideas glommed together in a way that appealed to people. Also, take into account that just 10 years ago not everyone had phones like they do now, it was still a burgeoning market. Then along comes Windows and others with these new fangled smart phones and people were a bit stand offish. It was at this point that Jobs added phone bits to is iPod and the rest is history. This is what happened here and it answers your question of "why not before".
And as for Android "having square buttons all in a row"....have you ever even used an android phone? Because that's just the app drawer....and they aren't square.
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Ok, because a phone had a touch screen and was rectangle doesn't mean it's the same as the iPhone was. I'm talking about pinch to zoom, swiping....gestures, app store, etc. Also, the iPhone had a gyroscope and I don't think the Prada had that.
The LG Prada was announced in 2006 with a lot of pics, but didn't release until 2008, the iPhone came out in 2007. LG complained Apple ripped it off, but there has been no news about a lawsuit and LG has been quiet. Maybe there was a settlement or maybe there wasn't a case. I don't know.
Also this:
http://blog.flurry.com/bid/77424/Is-it-Game-Over-for-Nintendo-DS-and-Sony-PSP
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43059955/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/netflixs-internet-traffic-overtakes-web-surfing/#.TrvX3Fb0-pM
Most internet traffic is from Netflix? Streaming is alive and well. Bluray is not dead, but things are changing.
Back to the phone, WoW is a bad example, the other MMO's were still successful, just not as successful. EQ1 was considered the #1 MMO and had lots of subs. WoW comes along and has millions. I don't know of any phone, like the iPhone that was even as successful as EQ1 was compared to WoW. Like I said before, every slate phone now looks very similar to the iPhone and Android appears to be the closest. Someone from Google was on Apple's Board for a long time and had to leave because of the conflict of interest. He left in 2009, two years after the iPhone came out and the first Android phone came out in 2008, but Google's Nexus 1 base model came out (looked like the iPhone) in 2010.
CEO leaves Apple Board
http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/03/technology/schmidt_google_apple_board/
History of Android Phones
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-20016542-251/a-brief-history-of-android-phones/
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ZOMG a gyroscope, completely different phone then! I just can't use a phone if it doesn't have a gyroscope!
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The only thing iPhone had over previous smartphones was multitouch and gestures, big buttons is nothing but aesthetics. But then, if you recall the race to get to that, it was a very close thing. I remember watching the videos on youtube as different vids popped up each showing different approaches to multitouch. iPhone didn't invent it, they paid for it, just like Microsoft paid someone else to do the same thing, so did Google. iPhone got their first. Kind of like Germany and the US racing for the nuclear bomb in ww2, whoever gets there first wins. The thing is, because iPhone did get there first we get people like you saying everyone is copying them, which is hilarious. If you need I can look up all those old vids of multitouch advancements.
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vn_jurojin posted:
The only thing iPhone had over previous smartphones was multitouch and gestures, big buttons is nothing but aesthetics. But then, if you recall the race to get to that, it was a very close thing. I remember watching the videos on youtube as different vids popped up each showing different approaches to multitouch. iPhone didn't invent it, they paid for it, just like Microsoft paid someone else to do the same thing, so did Google. iPhone got their first. Kind of like Germany and the US racing for the nuclear bomb in ww2, whoever gets there first wins. The thing is, because iPhone did get there first we get people like you saying everyone is copying them, which is hilarious. If you need I can look up all those old vids of multitouch advancements.
This 100%. Multitouch was not a revolutionary idea at all, it was just that Apple was the first to buy their way into a successful version.
Kind of like how they purchased Siri. For the past few weeks all I have heard from people is how Apple is genius for creating Siri.
The bought it.....lol
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Android was being worked on at the same time ios was, google saw it and liked what they saw and bought Android's company.
Palm and Blackberry both had rows of square icons just like iphone.
I like what someone said about wow, wow didn't do anything that a game hadn't done before, they just took stuff from all the MMO's before it and put it in one game.
Apple did that with the iphone, other than the unlock gesture, they bought their multi touch technology, they bought siri, just like jobs said good artists steal ideas. There were app stores out for palm and windows smart phones, they were just not ran by palm or RIM. They kicked off an arms race of people improving their smartphones, no doubt about that. But let's not act like they invented all these features.
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