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'Excellent'.
http://www.eteknix.com/news/bulldozer-fx8150-review-leaked/
What a slouch. Not even for that price point is it worth buying that thing.
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Problem is neither games nor 3DMark make good use of so many cores.
For those into calculations and 3D rendering though, this processor will obviously take the place of the Intel equivalent - it's not only faster, but it's cheaper.
And I'm gonna stick to my Phenom II 940 Black overclocked to 3.5ghz, since I have yet to find a game that it can't run properly and with high settings.
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The_Korrigan posted:
Problem is neither games nor 3DMark make good use of so many cores.
For those into calculations and 3D rendering though, this processor will obviously take the place of the Intel equivalent - it's not only faster, but it's cheaper.
And I'm gonna stick to my Phenom II 940 Black overclocked to 3.5ghz, since I have yet to find a game that it can't run properly and with high settings.
Same here, same proc. AMD still really dropped the ball here, from a consumer standpoint.
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Umm, I would wait several reviews before making an assessment.
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If true however, it would explain the price drops better.
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As an Intel employee who is manufacturing the latest and greatest silicon...this is great news. 
Seriously, though, Intel knows AMD isn't down and out for the count. This may be a hiccup or stutter for AMD, but it certainly doesn't mean that we at Intel get to relax.
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It's sad that AMD is not going to be able to compete against Intel's i7 series.
But it's not a total disaster for AMD. I would imagine these high end desktop chips account for a tiny percentage of sales anyway. Intel is probably more worried about AMD's APU chips. More and more stuff is taking advantage of graphics acceleration and AMD has a pretty big advantage over Intel when it comes to graphics performance.
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Did anybody really think AMD was going to best Intel?
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It's sad that AMD is not going to be able to compete against Intel's i7 series.
Actually, they will compete. Possibly not for gamers, except for the lower prices (better performance/price ratio for AMD, higher performance for Intel), but for professionals, since the new Bulldozer actually crushes the Intel competition when it comes to pure multithreaded calculation.
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The_Korrigan posted:
Ravynmagi posted:
It's sad that AMD is not going to be able to compete against Intel's i7 series.
Actually, they will compete. Possibly not for gamers, except for the lower prices (better performance/price ratio for AMD, higher performance for Intel), but for professionals, since the new Bulldozer actually crushes the Intel competition when it comes to pure multithreaded calculation.
Pretty much this. The architecture was designed with PRO applications in mind. The FX consumer line is derived from that, and it really shows.
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Jesus Christ...
Reviews are trickling in, this leak was NOT wrong.
AMD has delivered what will be a disappointment to many. The Intel fanboys have won this round. There just isn't any way around it. AMD fans, get ready to eat crow. If you expected something to outshine Sandy Bridge in terms of performance overall, it is just not there. frown
Bulldozer has surely been built with the future of computing in mind. And seemingly a lack of backward vision whatsoever. In single threaded applications Bulldozer gets its ass handed to it by Intel's Sandy Bridge Core i5 and i7 K series processors. Conversely, the moments where we see Bulldozer shine it is deeply computing through multithreaded applications, but even then it is not shining that brightly. Still Bulldozer's sum is greater than its parts as the metrics have shown.
It gets outperformed by Phenom IIs in traditional applications. WTH was AMD thinking?
http://hardocp.com/article/2011/10/11/amd_bulldozer_fx8150_desktop_performance_review/1
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heiromancerdrackus posted:
Jesus Christ...
Reviews are trickling in, this leak was NOT wrong.
AMD has delivered what will be a disappointment to many. The Intel fanboys have won this round. There just isn't any way around it. AMD fans, get ready to eat crow. If you expected something to outshine Sandy Bridge in terms of performance overall, it is just not there. frown
Bulldozer has surely been built with the future of computing in mind. And seemingly a lack of backward vision whatsoever. In single threaded applications Bulldozer gets its ass handed to it by Intel's Sandy Bridge Core i5 and i7 K series processors. Conversely, the moments where we see Bulldozer shine it is deeply computing through multithreaded applications, but even then it is not shining that brightly. Still Bulldozer's sum is greater than its parts as the metrics have shown.
It gets outperformed by Phenom IIs in traditional applications. WTH was AMD thinking?
http://hardocp.com/article/2011/10/11/amd_bulldozer_fx8150_desktop_performance_review/1
Well to be honest a 32nm octo core phenom II would best the FX-8150 probably in everything and shave off close to 1B transistors. This is actually a massive failure, when 2B transistor CPU beast can at best only match 1B from intel your screwed, and intel 22nm is probably ready to go right now but they can at least now delay it a good 6-8 months with no competition.
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Did anybody really think AMD was going to best Intel?
It's not a matter of Besting Intel, it's a matter of creating options for consumers so one CPU giant doesn't dominate the market.
With nothing to compete with Intel, we're left paying whatever Intel deems their processors are worth. If there were serious competition, everyone would benefit.
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Did anybody really think AMD was going to best Intel?
Beat? No. I did expect their flagship to at least be CLOSE to the I7 2600k in practical applications and power use.
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Lithium_Power posted:
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Did anybody really think AMD was going to best Intel?
It's not a matter of Besting Intel, it's a matter of creating options for consumers so one CPU giant doesn't dominate the market.
With nothing to compete with Intel, we're left paying whatever Intel deems their processors are worth. If there were serious competition, everyone would benefit.
For real competition, it has to go back and forth, more like nVidia and ATI. This Intel steps on AMD repeatedly doesn't bode well for competition.
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Lithium_Power posted:
-Mithan- posted:
Did anybody really think AMD was going to best Intel?
It's not a matter of Besting Intel, it's a matter of creating options for consumers so one CPU giant doesn't dominate the market.
With nothing to compete with Intel, we're left paying whatever Intel deems their processors are worth. If there were serious competition, everyone would benefit.
As an Intel employee, I am rubbing my hands together gleefully, a la Mr. Burns.
Okay, not really.
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It seems to me that AMD still has the price point to performance ratio.. do they not? I think it was just to early to release an 6/8 core CPU either way.
IMO I think AMDs future will be in their APUs.. If they can get them to work side by side with higher end cards then that would be something to look out for.
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