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Engadget's live blog here.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/04/apples-lets-talk-iphone-keynote-liveblog/
Summary of the details announced.
iOS 5 coming October 12th.
* revamped notifications
* iMessage across all iOS devices
* Reminders app
* Twitter integration
* Newsstand app
* Updated camera app, double click Home to launch, volume up button takes pics.
* Safari reader formats pages for reading, reading list to save content for later.
* Browser tabs for iPad.
* PC free activation.
iCloud coming October 12th
* Syncs pictures, docs, contacts, calendars, etc
* Find My Friend, shows location of other iOS users that have opted in.
* Locate other iOS devices as well.
* 5GB storage free to IOS 5 and Lion users.
* iTunes Match $25/yr scans music you purchased elsewhere and matches it with music in iTunes. Available end of Oct.
iPod Nano
* 16 new clocks
* 8GB $130
* 16GB $150
iPod Touch
* white version coming
* 8GB $200
* 32GB $300
* 64GB $400
* prices effective October 12th
iPhone 4S coming October 14th
* A5 dual core processor
* dual core graphics up to 7 times faster
* dual antennaes for better call quality
* HSDPA downloads speeds up to 14.4Mbps (no LTE or HSPA+)
* 8MP camera, backside illuminated 73% more light, 33% quicker, better colors, better sharpness.
* 1080P video recording, image stabilization, noise reduction.
* Siri voice assistant. Hold Home button and talk to your phone. Ask Siri questions and it finds the information, ask it to do things like set the alarm and it does. Siri can read back text messages, check and read your calendar.
* Voice dictation.
* 16GB $200 with 2/yr contract
* 32GB $300 with 2/yr contract
* 64GB $400 with 2/yr contract
* Pre-orders start Oct 7th.
* Available on AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon
iPhone 4
* 8GB $100 with 2/yr contract
iPhone 3GS
* 8GB FREE with 2/yr contract
No iPhone 5. No slimmer larger phone. Kind of a surprise.
iPhone 4S press-release
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/04/meet-the-new-iphone-4s/
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Kind of sucks it's not getting a bigger display.
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I think engadget has been taken over by apple heh.
They did much needed fixes to camera and added a dual core basically. On OS side they added in many android current features and some new ones that could be interesting. Overall I fail to see hype.
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I was interested in the announcement because I was open to the possibility of switching from Android to iPhone (though I certainly wouldn't decide anything until after Google's ICS announcement next week).
I was expecting Apple to announce two devices today, an iPhone 4S with the same iPhone 4 look, but with updated internals and we got that. Was also expecting an iPhone 5 with a new design, larger 4 inch display and LTE or at least HSPA+ 21Mbps. An iPhone with a 4 inch display and LTE might have been something I would have considered buying.
We saw so many leaks of case accessories that were clearly designed for a larger and thinner phone. Not sure if all these were faked or this device does exist. But if they have the cases ready now, then you'd think the device would be almost ready to launch. But if Apple didn't announce it today, then I highly doubt an iPhone 5 is launching this year. So I guess all those case accessories must have been faked.
Anyway, I think Apple fans should be really impressed with the iPhone 4S. It does look very impressive.
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http://allthingsd.com/20111004/i-am-number-4s-no-sparkly-iphone-5-disappoints-apple-fans-and-wall-street
Guess Apple fans are sad by no iPhone 5 announcement too.
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I see why Steve Jobs retired from being CEO now.
Looking around at various websites and forums, including Apple fan sites, it seems the reaction is universally "disappointed". Can you believe the iPhone 4 launched almost a year and a half ago (June 2010). So while this is a nice upgrade to the product line, everyone was expecting even more.
Wallstreet not impressed either as Apple stock drops 5% on the announcement.
http://9to5mac.com/2011/10/04/the-market-doesnt-like-the-iphone-4s-aapl-loses-almost-5-of-its-value/
Regarding Siri and it's ability to recognized natural speech. Some bloggers mentioned that the demonstrator was speaking slowly like to a child, and not really natural. I talk fast normally, so I might have a problem slowing down. 
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We saw so many leaks of case accessories that were clearly designed for a larger and thinner phone. Not sure if all these were faked or this device does exist. But if they have the cases ready now, then you'd think the device would be almost ready to launch. But if Apple didn't announce it today, then I highly doubt an iPhone 5 is launching this year. So I guess all those case accessories must have been faked.
We are getting the story behind one of the leaked iPhone 5 cases. Hard Shell's CEO tells use why it made prototypes of it's iPhone 5 cases...
Talking to CNET as the event was unfolding, Hickman revealed that he had decided to make the mold for the new cases just two weeks ago based on different sources of information, including some manufacturers in China. While some of the sources were generally reliable, none were official.
"Finally we had to make the decision based on an educated guess. Apple has created a system in which only top players know their secrets, putting the rest in a very disadvantaged situation.
http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-20115412-85/hard-candy-bet-on-iphone-5-goes-south/
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I was expecting a iphone 5 and iphone 4s with the iphone 5
having a 4inch+ screen, new design, updated retna 2.0 screen and NFC
and iphone 4s 3.5 inch screen with just hardware updates.
Must
say I'm underwhelmed for something that took so long to come to market.
I'm sure it will be polished like most apple products, I guess they put
this phone off so long to ramp up production to keep up with demand??
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One other thing I heard today about the iPhone 4S is that it will synch wirelessly now. FWIW
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Mortalis3 posted:
One other thing I heard today about the iPhone 4S is that it will synch wirelessly now. FWIW
Thats a new ios5 feature, so older iphones, ipads, and ipods get wireless sync too.
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Final thoughts on the iPhone 4S, then I'm moving to back to Android mode for next weeks announcement.
Going to just copy/paste something I posted on another forum regarding the topic of the iPhone 4 being a disappointment/flop.
The iPhone 5 sounded like a great device. Larger screen, sleeker redesigned body, LTE and WiMax, redesigned touch home button, some other stuff was floating out there too. It was all fake and probably was probably unrealistic to think all that could be put into such a thin body.
If I purge my mind of all the iPhone 5 rumors and just look at the iPhone 4S, I think it actually looks pretty good. Dual core A5 processor with significantly improved graphics, much better 8MP camera, and improved HSDPA 14.4Mbps modem. And typically with Apple the focus is on the software and user experience than actual hardware specs anyway. And they did some nice things with iOS 5 and Siri voice assistant looks promising.
* No LTE/WiMax
Not really a surprise, I hear LTE is brutal on battery life (not sure about WiMax). I suppose HSDPA 14.4Mbps modem was used to improve speed, but keep the battery life very good.
* No 4 inch screen.
This could be intentional. Many iPhone buyers are women and younger people with smaller hands. They may want to stick with 3.5 inches to satisfy the majority of people that are buying this phone.
* No Teardrop Redesign
Pics of that teardrop design showed a very thin phone. Considering the all the hardware improvements being put into the body it is probably unrealistic to make the phone any thinner at this time. And if they can't reduce it's thinness, then maybe now may not be the time to redesign it's appearance.
The iPhone 4S is a disappointment compared to the iPhone 5, but the iPhone 5 wasn't real.
For probably a lot of people wanting an iPhone with a larger screen, that is an understandable disappointment.
But I think the iPhone 4S will be really successful anyway. Might not be an iPhone 5, but it's still a big improvement over the iPhone 4.
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The iPhone 4S is nice, no doubt, but not enough to make me want to upgrade to it from a 4.
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Screen is just too damn small. FEED ME SOME ICECREAM GOOGLE.
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Sprawl-zero1eye- posted:
The iPhone 4S is nice, no doubt, but not enough to make me want to upgrade to it from a 4.
Same here. I'll wait for the actual iPhone 5 and while I'm doing that Apple may very well lose me to whatever awesome new Android phone comes out.
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THIS PHONE IS AMAZING, I WILL BE GETTING IT!!! (Disclaimer: compared to my current iPhone 3G)
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You know I keep hearing people say how it's still going to sell well... of course it's going to still sell well, there are more people with 3g and 3gs's I think than 4's , so yea I expect it to break sales records. But I do not expect people trading in their 4's for a 4s.
Then again people with a 3g and 3gs may try android since this seemed to be under whelming for alot of apple people.
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I dunno. Only costs $200 to upgrade and many will be eligible this month. For that price, the upgraded and A5 processor might be plenty reason enough to upgrade from an iPhone 4.
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Also keep it mind that when you upgrade, you get to keep your old hardware, which means you can resell it on ebay to recoup most of your losses.
When the iPhone4 came out, I was up for an upgrade. I purchased the iphone4 for $200, then sold my old 3G for $185 on ebay. Of course, I had to re-up my two year contract as well.
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But is it worth that upgrade when you know the 5 is coming in less then a year. Probably sooner given the initial reception of the 4s.
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Lonestar_1 posted:
But is it worth that upgrade when you know the 5 is coming in less then a year. Probably sooner given the initial reception of the 4s.
Didn't yesterday just prove we don't know anything about their release schedule anymore?
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I agree ravy, they may not launch until november next year.
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iPhone 4S has 512MB of memory, same as the 4.
http://thisismynext.com/2011/10/05/iphone-4s-512mb-ram-specs/
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Despite the huge sigh of disappointment over the iPhone 4S it racked up 1 million pre-orders within the first 24 hours and is sold out.
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That was to be expected, vast majority of apple "fans" buy whatever they put out. It really is like that one southpark episode.
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one of them was my gf who has a 3g and it takes 2 min to open up facebook, and almost 1 min to open her text messages.
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Impressive perf numbers, they have it benchmarked over at Anandtech, compared to prior models and current competitors.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/11/benchmarks -clock-iphone-4s-a5-cpu-at-800mhz-show-major-gpu-upg/
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Sprawl-zero1eye- posted:
The iPhone 4S is nice, no doubt, but not enough to make me want to upgrade to it from a 4.
Siri is what seals the deal for me, only available on the 4s, unfortunately. However, I see myself using that daily, all day.
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I want to see it in action before deciding if Siri is worth it.
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