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Amazon announced three new Kindles today. First two are e-inks displays and the last an IPS LCD.
Kindle Touch
* IR touch screen
* no keyboard/buttons
* "most advanced" e-ink display
* $139 ($99 w/ads) wifi or $189 ($149 w/ads) with 3G (3G access still free)
* ships November 21st, pre-orders start today
Kindle
* button navigation, but no keyboard (no touch screen)
* 18% smaller than Kindle 3
* $109 ($79 w/ads)
* ships today
Kindle Fire
* 7 inch 1024x600 IPS display with Gorilla Glass
* Dual core TI OMAP4 processor
* 512MB memory
* 8GB internal storage
* 14.6 oz (414 grams or 0.9 pounds)
* Amazon Silk web browser. "Dynamic split browsing" intelligently renders pieces of a website locally and other pieces via the cloud to boost browsing performance.
* $199
* ships November 15th, pre-orders start today
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/28/live-from-amazons-tablet-event-in-nyc/
edit: updated some specs on the Fire
edit 2: updated prices with and without advertising
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I was reading that the kindle fire really based alot off of the playbook. Not a fast CPU either.
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Lonestar_1 posted:
I was reading that the kindle fire really based alot off of the playbook. Not a fast CPU either.
The same company that designed and manufactures the Playbook also is making the Kindle Fire. It's a shortcut Amazon apparently had to take to get it out this holiday season.
Processor is believed to be a TI OMAP4 dual core, this is actually very impressive for a $200 tablet.
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Blown away. Go watch the Youtube video on the development and setup behind their Silk browser on the Fire. Perfectly what is needed - offload EVERYTHING you can to the cloud, let the server farm do as much as possible, and only use the network to push data back and forth to be presented in the browser - much like how remote desktop works.
Love the new Touch versions, I have a 3gen one I got last Xmas, and these are smaller, nicer, and cheaper. Bezos' letter on the Amazon front page says it all:
"There are two types of companies: those that work hard to charge customers more, and those that work hard to charge customers less. Both approaches can work. We are firmly in the second camp."
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Does it force you to go to their store for everything?
What if I wanted to read a book in e-pub format?
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I don't like that they started doing this advertisement spam on the homescreen and screensavers junk but I guess if it NEVER intrudes during actual reading and reduces them by $40 like it seems to than I'll deal with it I guess.
Think I'll get the $99 touch one. Could care less about having all the other crap. Just need something to read books on hehe.
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Terminius_Est posted:
Does it force you to go to their store for everything?
What if I wanted to read a book in e-pub format?
Kindle supports sideloading other epub files pretty easily. I'm guessing that isn't changing.
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Keypek posted:
I don't like that they started doing this advertisement spam on the homescreen and screensavers junk but I guess if it NEVER intrudes during actual reading and reduces them by $40 like it seems to than I'll deal with it I guess.
Think I'll get the $99 touch one. Could care less about having all the other crap. Just need something to read books on hehe.
Thanks. They didn't even mention those prices were the ones with the ads in it during the live blog. Ugh, guess it did seem too good, should have known. Now I'm wondering if the Kindle Fire has any adware in it for it's $200 price tag.
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Makes me wonder if I should cancel my HP TouchPad orders. They are still sitting in limbo and this seems like a nice little device.
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Ravynmagi posted:
Keypek posted:
I don't like that they started doing this advertisement spam on the homescreen and screensavers junk but I guess if it NEVER intrudes during actual reading and reduces them by $40 like it seems to than I'll deal with it I guess.
Think I'll get the $99 touch one. Could care less about having all the other crap. Just need something to read books on hehe.
Thanks. They didn't even mention those prices were the ones with the ads in it during the live blog. Ugh, guess it did seem too good, should have known. Now I'm wondering if the Kindle Fire has any adware in it for it's $200 price tag.
There are no alternate SKUs for 'ad supported' Fire tablets, so I'd say no.
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I think I'll get a Kindle Touch. I had a Kindle 3 for a while and really liked the e-ink display and miss it. So I think it's time to get another e-ink device again. And after some thought I guess I could live with the "Special Offers" ads if it's going to save me $40.
Probably passing on the 7 inch Kindle Fire though. I like 10 inch tablets more. And supposedly Amazon is also working on one for early next year (which rumors suggest could also be a clone of upcoming 10 inch Playbook, haha).
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Jyiiga posted:
Makes me wonder if I should cancel my HP TouchPad orders. They are still sitting in limbo and this seems like a nice little device.
Well there is a Kindle app on the TouchPad and for $100 or $150 it is still a very amazing for ebooks, websurfing, and watching videos (nice Beats audio speakers... for a tablet anyway).
But if you want to do more... well the app selection is pretty horrible.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/amazon-kindle-fire-qa
Kindle Fire QA at Android Central.
And one of the comments reminded me. Some people are feeling like Google is getting cheated by Amazon because they are using Android, but stripped out all the Google Apps that help Google make money.
Really, does Google need our pity? I think they'll just be okie-dokie despite no Google Apps on this. And considering almost everyone is paying Microsoft licensing fees because of the Google apps and Apple is now claiming some versions of the Google Gallery violate it's patents, it's not surprising Amazon decided to just scrub it clean and use their own apps. This might help them avoid paying Microsoft and getting hunted down by Apple.
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if i got the fire, it'd be because it's a better device to root than the nook color is. and i like my nook more than my dad's kindle so i'd never get one of their ereaders. it's funny how much they're scrambling to catch up to what the nook has been doing for a while now though. good times. more competition with each other plz. i want better things for less money and access to more ereader stores on my device.
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Kindle Fire looks nice. Maybe this could be my entrance to the tablet-world. 
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I wonder if RIM is pissed that Amazon is using the very same hardware as their Playbook? Haha.
Either way, seems to be good news for consumers, because now the Playbook is $200 cheaper, price slashed down to $300 for a 16GB model.
http://allthingsd.com/20110929/best-buy-our-rim-playbook%E2%80%8E-prices-are-insane/
It's still $100 more than the Fire though.
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Caoilin posted:
if i got the fire, it'd be because it's a better device to root than the nook color is. and i like my nook more than my dad's kindle so i'd never get one of their ereaders. it's funny how much they're scrambling to catch up to what the nook has been doing for a while now though. good times. more competition with each other plz. i want better things for less money and access to more ereader stores on my device.
an unrooted fire will beat the crap out of a unrooted nook though.
The one thing that makes me balk at the fire is that it doesn't have the android market. I have bought lots of apps over the past 2 years, and I would have to rebuy them on amazon's market if I want them on the fire.
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One nice thing about the Amazon market is they offer a pretty good paid app, for free, every day.
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I know and I try to check it every day.
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I'm going for the touch. The ads suck but from what I've read you should never see one while you are actually reading a book so that's fine I think. Fire sounds kinda cool but unnecessary for me really. Don't know what I'd actually use it for besides reading and would rather have the touch for that.
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Keypek posted:
I'm going for the touch. The ads suck but from what I've read you should never see one while you are actually reading a book so that's fine I think. Fire sounds kinda cool but unnecessary for me really. Don't know what I'd actually use it for besides reading and would rather have the touch for that.
The ads don't really bother me. It isn't like they interrupt your reading time. They just display when you aren't using the device.
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The free 3G access on the Kindle Touch 3G only allows for book downloads and Wikipedia access. The integrated "experimental" browser can not use the free 3G and only works on wifi. So no 3G Internet access for the most part.
With the previous generation Kindle you were able to surf the web with the browser on the free 3G. Though the "experimental" label is definitely justified for the browsing experience. So I really don't see Amazon removing this ability as a big loss anyway.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/10/kindle-touch-3g-cant-access-most-of-internet-without-wifi.ars
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Good news. If you save $40 and buy the "Special Offers" version with advertising, but later decide "OMG, this is too annoying", you can have the adds removed by upgrading your Kindle for only $30. And you still save $10 off the regular Kindle price.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33198_7-20116713-286/removing-ads-from-new-kindle-costs-$30/
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