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This was originally a reply to another thread, but feel these comments are worth being an independent topic, so here it is.
As best I can tell, the current population is using this as a lower population PvE server:
They farm keeps for glass and scales
Raid ML10 with other guilds for loot
Make necros to farm mobs in isolated locations
Help new players way too much with free gear, scales, and glass
Yes, I understand that helping people out with gear will help attract people to the player, but people do not create characters on this server to gear them; we make characters here to PvP. And PvP is the one thing I'm not seeing on Mordred.
Due to being a Catacombs class, I leveled from 1 to 50 entirely solo and only saw one other player during this time. It's common sense that this is a low population server, but from my perspective, almost no one is out to PvP.
Areas I leveled in due to hoping to see other players:
Darkness Falls
Entrances of each realm's level 35+ dungeon
Areas with blue through red mobs in the dragon zones of both Albion and Midgard
Avalon City
By all measures, these should be high traffic areas for other players leveling from 40-50 and out to farm scales, however almost no other players are to be found. The scale loop on in level 3 of the Labyrinthe is the only place I've encountered other players post 50, and both times it was 2 other players plus their bots.
Based on these experiences, I can only assume that people leveling up or farming scales are either leveling in isolated areas, receiving a lot of power leveling, or simply being given XP scrolls and scales by veterans on the server. None of these activities are healthy for the server's population. People come here to PvP, not to receive free hand outs while never encountering other players.
If you really want to help Mordred's population, here are some suggestions from a player who started here at level 1 with nothing and farmed every single piece of glass and scale I needed:
Rather than giving free handouts, suggest places for new players to level up and farm their own glass and scales - this will help them encounter other players to PvP against.
The key to reviving Mordred lies in the new players actually having someone to fight and giving them free things (other than advice!) is counter productive in this goal. We coming here to fight other players, not to join guilds* and gear up a character that has no one to fight.
* Yes, guilds are important, but having other players to fight is more important. What use is joining a guild on the PvP server when your guild is 50% of the non-anon population?
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i dont know about other people, but I sure don't play mord to pvp in nf. And goth is barely ever active
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Greasygypsy posted:
i dont know about other people, but I sure don't play mord to pvp in nf. And goth is barely ever active
I'm pretty much what I'm seeing. I've tried making a loop through Goth, Wearyall -> AC run (both entrance areas), Oceanus Haven, and Cotswold looking for people to fight and find no one. To be fair, I don't maintain these loops for very long and perhaps not at peak hours (not sure what difference that makes...).
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Ahhh yes NF. Well, that is what many of us wanted to leave behind and it's what I mean by a good chunk of this server's population using Mordred as a low population PvE server. Perhaps you can claim a keep and wait for those who have characters logged out on top of the keep after it upgrades to being red.
If I wanted to RvR at keeps, I'd would have stayed on the blue servers. If I wanted to farm keeps for glass and scales, I'd have rolled on the PvE server.
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alotta people are leaving ywain due to the zergs not the nf...this game is based upon nf.... we switched to nf cuz it was clear were to go for pvp...hey element own berk lets go there we know there will be ppl there blah blah...shit i go to pve spots and find ppl i go to goth and find people(and playing in peak times obviously makes a difference)
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impstomperw posted:
switched to nf cuz it was clear were to go for pvp...hey element own berk lets go there we know there will be ppl
This is the first time I've seen a Mordred vet say this. In retrospect, it's not surprising given that a lot of the threads are about NF and keeps, however action in NF is not something that was made clear by what other players say. Based on the explicit statements from others, Cotswold, Goth, and Oceanus Haven appeared to be the go-to places for PvP.
impstomperw posted:
shit i go to pve spots and find ppl
Would you mind sharing the specific spots you visit and find people? I sure haven't found people at the common places. Perhaps the dragon zone in Hib is far superior to those of Mid and Alb - I've never been there. I personally have no qualms with killing people who are exping - I'm still RR1 and quite desperate for any kind of action here - as long as they con at least blue. However, as best I can tell, people are avoiding the common exp areas and old school Mordred PvP spots.
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Dannica posted:
However, as best I can tell, people are avoiding the common exp areas and old school Mordred PvP spots.
In other words, people got smart? 
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Dannica posted:
However, as best I can tell, people are avoiding the common exp areas and old school Mordred PvP spots.
In other words, people got smart?
Got smart? Is this August 2002? Hell, there has been no one around to kill you at exp spots in the last 4 years.
While leveling up, I would have gladly been ganked 15+ times if it meant having as many chances to fight someone who coned orange-blue.
As was stated in the OP, I played in what should be relatively high traffic areas and only saw one other person from 1-49; I was level 28-ish at the time and this person ran by and then returned to give me some greatly appreciated emerald seals.
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However, as best I can tell, people are avoiding the common exp areas and old school Mordred PvP spots.
In other words, people got smart?
smart people avoid pvp on a pvp server?
here's where you should be if you want to pvp: si towns, Cots, Toa towns. but it seems you want to rvr...
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I was more commenting on the PvE spots... In regards to PvP people are stupid and stick to the zones you mentioned that allow easy porting.
Only reason people avoid common PvE spots is so they don't get killed thus slowing down how long it takes them to get into PvP..
This whole post is pretty much complaining there are tons of people out PvE'ing so they can actually be competitive when they are done. Handing out crazy amounts of loot and people getting PL'd to 50 is bad here I guess??? Everyone should play the old school way and take 1+ months to be ready for PvP, or much, much longer...
NF helps new people more than anything else if they can get scales AND glass for little effort and not much time, how is that bad?
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This whole post is pretty much complaining there are tons of people out PvE'ing so they can actually be competitive when they are done. Handing out crazy amounts of loot and people getting PL'd to 50 is bad here I guess??? Everyone should play the old school way and take 1+ months to be ready for PvP, or much, much longer...
No and yes at the same time. I'm saying people who create new characters here would like to have someone to fight during their time on the server.
As it currently stands, people come here, create a level 40 character, and then don't find a single person to fight before bailing. Perhaps you or another established player gives them glass, scales, and bounty points to speed the process up, but the result is still the same.
If it took a month to level and gear up (as in you received no free hand outs), I'm quite sure that you'd see more people staying on the server as there would actually be people to fight during this leveling and gearing process. As it currently stands, there seems to be no one to fight outside of guilds farming each others keeps.
And why shouldn't they bail after reaching a decent template and finding no one to fight? It's not as if they invested a month in farming the xp, glass, and scales to build their template - it was given to them. Working towards the goal and actually having people to fight along the way is worth far more than a level 50 in 5 hours /play time plus a full set of Dragon gear and ML10 given to you by other players.
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NF helps new people more than anything else if they can get scales AND glass for little effort and not much time, how is that bad?
It's bad because it gives them no reason to remain on the server when they find it to be hollow shell of farming keeps for glass and scales.
Yes, people whine about leveling and gearing the hard way. Yes, people are more likely to stick around when they must work to accomplish these goals. Yes, people come here to kill other players, not receive free gear and MLs and making them work to achieve these goals is more likely to make them stick around to make their time investment pay off.
Old school Mordred wasn't built in free loot and inviting everyone who asked into your guild; it was built on having people to kill. And not having people to kill is exactly the plague that Mordred is currently faces.
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I recently decided to try Mordred (Ywain is getting very tough for a solo visible which is my playstyle). Your description of Mordred seems very accurate to me, because I am one of those "PvE'ers" myself, but there is an explanation for that (not necessarily an explanation you will like  )
I did not come to Mordred to be ganked while I am PvE'ing, nor do I plan to gank others while they are PvE'ing. I accept that the risk is there, but my goal is to get a select few characters "ready" for PvP. Unfortunately this is a process that takes quite a while, but I have played DAoC for many years and I know very well how big the gap between a buffed templated char vs an untemplated unbuffed char is. It is huge.
I could have transferred plat from Ywain to Mordred to speed up the process, but seeing how few items are available in Mordred housing, I decided it would be better for myself (and Mordred) to create characters purely for PvE (to get more items for everyone). This is a longer process, and I am currently leveling/templating eight characters (including three crafting skills) only two of which are intended for actual PvP.
It may turn out to be a waste of time, but I just cannot see myself having any fun on a daily basis without a template. This may not be the true spirit of Mordred, but (once I am ready for PvP) it is better than staying on Ywain, no?
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I got the chance to actually kill people pveing today, and then i spent the next 10 mins argueing with him because he kept telling me "lets make peace" isnt this mordred? Kill or be killed? not aww, u owed me, please dont do it anymore... wtf...
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I have not been killing people doing pve. I never saw it as a legit form of rps.
If someone attacks me I am not going to complain, and I don't care really it adds
excitement for me.
I did see that a lot of the blue qq was about pre level 50 pvp while leveling. Being
run up on by a 50 vamp while farming GOLM island for scrolls is my fault, but it sure
made the guy I was helping mad.
I enjoyed all the random run ins I had this past 2 weeks.
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While what you are saying is very true, Mordred used to be the way you want it. But because mordred is at such a low population and just pvping to kill people who are trying to pve might cause them to log off and never come back, of course its a different story when its a 50 killing them and a lowbie killing them. I'd rather give the players all of these things to help them so they will eventually come out and PVP.
I know over the years that I have farmed there, I have more stuff then I can use and no one to really sell it to because they don't have the money. So maybe people are trying to get 50, farm money and buy the things they need so they can compete in pvp. You got to remember, people get pretty mad in this game if they die, I dunno why, get over it, figure out a way to beat them and go back.
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Regardless the population seems to be slowing as there is no one "leading" it...
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Part might be how easy it was made for them, part is theres noone to fight 24/7,
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If people do not change their ways the server WILL NEVER come back...
The stuff that harmed the server is still alive today...
It is easy to port to Gothwaite and port out before you die... PvP in areas like Humberton/Ardee would change the overall experience IMO.
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I have to admit, I recenly stated a fight and dipped away via port.
I was talking to the guy I was fighting and he was cool, but wanted
the reward for chasing me away.
As long as there is an easy way to escape via port people will try
and save themselves unless we police ourselves. I am not just talking
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It's not hard to level up and never be bothered. I am leveling an alt off and on on Mordred and nor once have I even seen anyone and it's a nice camp. People need to learn to find spots not looked at and level there. How the hell can they cry now when if they did it when the old timers did like myself with a population of 2000+ they would have off'd themselves for sure.
I remember back when the server was on top you could take a horse to Cornwall to go to and go over the marsh bridge and a bomb group would be set up there waiting on people to pass by lol and they think it's hard now?
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I remember those days lol or riding pkb and getting killed on horse lol
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pkb was hellish, remember the animist bombers setting up on that bridge? rofl god to go back in time again lol
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could barely make it through cotswold back then let alone pkb
but I've only seen 1 person while in major cities and PvEing :/ ... Maybe ocne I get out to NF
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I am happy to see interested being taken in Mordred, but 30 pop is not a revival. Stay with it though, maybe it comes back enough people will actually start taking the server serious.
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I think alot of people that come here are here because they tire of getting rolled by FG's+ and/or several stealthers while they are trying to solo.
As for not finding action....players tend to level in obscure places because as previously posted people know whats needed to compete and they want to get it done quickly because they have been around for ages and are most likely tired of farming so they can farm only to farm yet again and more.
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I think overall the community is what will bring people to the server and mordred has a great community overall and is generally more respectful than ywain so I dont think people PL'n and givin stuff out will hamper the rise of population.
To increase pop people need to know that mordred is not cutthroat and ADVERTISE. Post some random crap on ywain and youll get a temporary influx of people comin to mord, I say temporary because several will come but only a few will stay after the first week BUT do that every now and again and the pop will increase over time
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im slowly leveling a thane here. vid crad fried though. I did chase a friar off on my 42 thane, that was almost exciting.
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-Damaja- posted:
It's not hard to level up and never be bothered. I am leveling an alt off and on on Mordred and nor once have I even seen anyone and it's a nice camp. People need to learn to find spots not looked at and level there. How the hell can they cry now when if they did it when the old timers did like myself with a population of 2000+ they would have off'd themselves for sure.
This is actually the exact opposite of what I'm complaining about; there is no one to fight on Mordred. One can easily go afk for 20-60 minutes in Goth, Oceanus Haven, or Cotswold and never be ganked, let alone actively play at an easy to find PvE camp.
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I remember back when the server was on top you could take a horse to Cornwall to go to and go over the marsh bridge and a bomb group would be set up there waiting on people to pass by lol and they think it's hard now?
The only hard thing about playing on Mordred in its current incarnation is that there is no one to fight.
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Shamoth posted:
It may turn out to be a waste of time, but I just cannot see myself having any fun on a daily basis without a template. This may not be the true spirit of Mordred, but (once I am ready for PvP) it is better than staying on Ywain, no?
I understand where you are coming from. I have personally always always played in second rate templates and never bothered to progress beyond ML8 as a Sorceress in the peak of ToA. I went to the the ML 9 or 10 instances and never had one item from them and, frankly, it didn't make one bit of difference.
However, I must ask this: what use is farming items for a maximised template when there is no one to fight?
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GardianAngel posted:
Part might be how easy it was made for them, part is theres noone to fight 24/7,
Nor is there anyone to fight 2/3 as best I can see =\
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HumbleHampster posted:
I think alot of people that come here are here because they tire of getting rolled by FG's+ and/or several stealthers while they are trying to solo.
Yes - this is 100% true. However, there is currently no need in rolling on Mordred for people like this (I'm one of them) because there is no one to fight anywhere.
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As for not finding action....players tend to level in obscure places because as previously posted people know whats needed to compete and they want to get it done quickly because they have been around for ages and are most likely tired of farming so they can farm only to farm yet again and more.
How is this different than someone farming (or being given gear) for tens of hours only to find their time wasted because there is no one to fight? They'll stick around for a 1-3 weeks and then log off - never to return - because of all the time they wasted. Sure, giving them free gear speeds up the process.... but to what end? They'll quickly learn that their templated character has no one to fight outside of the guilds farming each other's keep in NF and leave the server.
The entire point I'm trying to make is that players come here to fight other players. Whether or not you give them free gear, they will still see an empty server in a matter of 1-3 weeks. If everyone had to farm their gear, there is a small chance they would at least encounter other players in the process, which (slightly) reduces their apprehension about wasting their time playing on a dead server.
You can throw scales and glass at new players all day long, but it won't solve the problem: there is no one to fight on Mordred. People come to the PvP server to fight other players, not waste 1-3 weeks of their in game time creating a character that will be useless despite being ML 10, CL 10, and having a perfect template.
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HumbleHampster posted:
I think overall the community is what will bring people to the server and mordred has a great community overall and is generally more respectful than ywain so I dont think people PL'n and givin stuff out will hamper the rise of population.
The VN board community is nice, but it isn't why people play on a given server. We can chat all day long over the VN boards without the game being a factor. However, people do not level up, gear, and actively play characters on the Mordred server to chat with others on the VN boards; one can do this without wasting 30-50 /play hours in game.
Having a tight knit community on the chat boards is a fine goal, but it will not help revive this in game server. People do not create characters on the Mordred game server to chat on the VN; they make them to fight other players in game.
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To increase pop people need to know that mordred is not cutthroat and ADVERTISE. Post some random crap on ywain and youll get a temporary influx of people comin to mord, I say temporary because several will come but only a few will stay after the first week BUT do that every now and again and the pop will increase over time
People don't stay because there is no reason to stay. And can you blame them? They create a character, /level 40, reach 50, and then leave the server because there is no one to fight. Who wants to level a character to 50, farm glass and scales, create a template, and then realize that their time was wasted?
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Well since Mordred was once the top server for PVP/RVR action, why not consider or suggest to mythic to make it the test server for dueling/PVP, allowing interested players to copy their toons over to this server, just for the purposes of dueling and having the open fields to PVP to their hearts content.
If interested players wanted to copy their characters over to Mordred, they would have to understand that there are server restricted items that won't work or transfer over, but I don't think that would stop players from moving their toon's over to see what they can do on a server dedicated to PVP/Dueling.
Personally, I have never been a big fan of playing on Mordred, only because I was new to the game and did not get or grasp the mentality of or intricacies of 'kill or be killed' gaming. The few toons I had on the server, never got much past lvl 20, since as soon as my immunity went down, it was run like hell and get out of the more traveled area's or die. Playing on mordred, was a living/leveling hell, for a noobie player...............
With 5 years of playing DAoC, I now finally get the concepts of what Mordred were and are about in regards to PVP. A bit late now for that, but there is always hope that Mordred might one day make a come back.............
it's just a suggestion, so go ahead and flame, curse, cry and let it all out and consider the options left to the dedicated player base of the Mordred server..............
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bleh not even gonna bother ... nevermind
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I wasnt talking about the VN community at all Dannica but you have already made up your mind about mordred it seems so there is no point in trying to get you to see the brighter side. I suppose the server has lost your vote so carry on mate
PS. if you dont have patience then solo is not for you and therefore mordred is also not for you
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I don't know who Dannica is but I agree with everything he is saying.
It seems to be an Ywain/Rvr server affliction that you need to be in the very best gear to rvr/pvp as it has never been the case as long as I've played. I wonder what they'll do when they realise that better(to a lesser extent higher realm rank) players will still kill them without breaking a sweat and that all their pve efforts have been for nothing.
This is not even touching on the fact that there's nobody online in the first place. I've checked the Mordred population at various times throughout the past week and I've seen from 4 to 8 people online at a time so unless everyone is anon, which I don't even understand why you would be, then the server is as dead as it's always been.
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I don't see a problem with PvE'n since people don't want to PvP in DF seal gear with no arti/ml's/scale items, etc.
I resubbed with 14 days free and got a VW to 50 (in the past month). Soon after getting 50 I realized how lame it was going to be to try and solo farm for a template since the server was so empty. People always talked about PvP'n on VN but I would port to Oceanus/Goth/Cots and see nobody. ever.
Since, I have let that account close (was a bot account) and am currently playin' a bit on Ywain...it is zergy as hell trying to solo but at least I get some fights.
Is there a dedicated chat/vent channel used for mordred other than this forum? I've thought about trying again but don't want to waste the time if everyone is just going to do everything (PvE farming) solo.
On a side note, it is lame that the new BG quests on Ywain have made leveling 50x faster that mordred, even with our xp bonuses. Though, this will probably be nerfed.
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Thoke, there seems to be a max of about 35 non anon, but still it is not enough because most of the current community pvps in NF. I got two chars to level 50 from scratch, trying to give it a fair chance and add my +1 to the server for a bit. I got to about rr3 ~50k rps on one of them from various people I found it goth. The leveling kept me busy for a while but in the end I realized goth has a couple people in it (about 1-10 people) for a 1-5 hour window each day and that's it. Never found pvp anywhere else (I don't visit NF on mord), and whenever there is pvp there idiot retard boy (ckikea) comes to camp the house with 6 accounts. Don't activate to play mordred, you will be disappointed
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If mordred is left to itself, and continues as it is, the server will never recover from the entropic tendency that has inhabited the server; it's death will be a certainty! 35 people do not make up a population worth sustaining, you all know this to be true! So your best bet is to speak up and be vocal about what you want to see happen to the Mordred server; it should be obvious to anyone reading these posts, that there is still a player base passionate about Mordred, so why let it die an empty death? Let your voices and concerns be heard.....!
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Phlei posted:
I don't see a problem with PvE'n since people don't want to PvP in DF seal gear with no arti/ml's/scale items, etc.
I never said that playing PvE was bad for Mordred - I highly encourage people to farm their own scales and glass - but I maintain that giving away massive amounts of scales and glass is bad for the server.
Phlei posted:
People always talked about PvP'n on VN but I would port to Oceanus/Goth/Cots and see nobody. ever.
I believe we agree on this point.
Phlei posted:
Is there a dedicated chat/vent channel used for mordred other than this forum? I've thought about trying again but don't want to waste the time if everyone is just going to do everything (PvE farming) solo.
It appears to be a complex network of established players and guilds logging on to farm each others' keeps.
Phlei posted:
On a side note, it is lame that the new BG quests on Ywain have made leveling 50x faster that mordred, even with our xp bonuses. Though, this will probably be nerfed.
It's a shame that EA-Bioware-Mythic didn't devise a similar program for the Mordred server. I was quite excited to see all of the talk about a Mordred revival and dutifully ground my way up here (including GM in armour crafting and Alchemy) only to find no one to fight. I can't even sell invigoration potions on my consignment merchant, which people frequently requested on the Mordred VNBoards. Perhaps not being part of the Mordred in crowd is why they didn't sell (this is also bad for the server).
As it currently stands, I believe the regular Mordred players and guilds are too entrenched in their ways to truly be ready for a Mordred revival. Should they wish for a real server revival, here are a few suggestions:
Forget about farming in NF and take the action to Goth Harbour, Oceanus Haven, or Cotswold
Give advice about where to level and farm instead of free gear and master levels
Never forget that Mordred is about having people to kill. New players do not come here for welfare gear and master levels; they come here to PvP. Welfare PvE is counter productive for Mordred's future because it sharply reduces the chances that new players will actually encounter each other. Yes, PvE on a PvP server can be harsh, but there is no need in coddling new players because they came here to PvP
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As far as I am aware, Damaja never played a serious character on Mordred. I would simply ignore him, he is a nobody who lurks around on VN.
The only name I recognize from proper Mordred play is Metan-MLF. I dont agree with what he is saying necessarily, but I do recognize the name.
There was a Mythic guy on the boards a year or two ago, he posted twice one day. I sent him a message with some suggestions. I never heard from him, and he never posted again.
Every PvP person I talk to appreciates that Mordred was an incredible PvP server.
Mythic and TL bungling blew it.
I represent around 30 people who left Mordred due to Mythic and Damien BS, and many would probably return again if it was as good as when we left en masse.
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ok, not too long ago i rolled some toons on mordred. started with an animist, figured i would need a money maker to finance my pvp toons and my experience is mostly hib. so i /level to 40 and grind to 50 in df. i saw maybe 2 people the whole time i was in there and i killed both of them when they ran through my shrooms because they werent looking. promptly after they died i got bitched at for ganking people who were leveling. ok so get out of df since im sitting on about 1500 saphire seals, go to toa, ya i need glass, and afrits drop good rog and other stuff. i learn quick to be on my toes in oceanus, got ganked twice, meh whatever, see some blues farmin my spot, 2 of em one of me, sneak up and drop shrooms on them, watch them die and dance. and promptly get bitched at for ganking people who were farming. mind you, the whole time im in mordred im wearing gear i bought with seals in df, its the only gear that animist has to this day and im getting kills. problem is i get bitched at constantly if i pvp on a pvp server. i wasnt ganking greys or rolling the same person all night just random encounters. end of story i havent gone back.
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